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Lotto Winner Loses Access To Pension (Read 19672 times)
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Re: Lotto Winner Loses Access To Pension
Reply #255 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:39pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:37pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:34pm:
Excuse me?

Are you saying day to day means just enough for literally two days?

Where are you getting this from - the Centrelink form?

It means whatever Centrelink determines it means, or what a court determines a 'reasonable person' would think it means.


Cite your case law.

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Reply #256 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:41pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:38pm:
White flag accepted.


You'll be sacheting off, then?

The state gets to determine what's what when the state's doing the paying.
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Reply #257 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:42pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:38pm:
White flag accepted.


You'll be sacheting off, then?

The state gets to determine what's what when the state's doing the paying.


Cite your case law.

Simple enough request.

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Reply #258 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:45pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:38pm:
White flag accepted.


You'll be sacheting off, then?

The state gets to determine what's what when the state's doing the paying.


Gregg likes to do that. Mark his own homework kinda thing he has going on. I saw no white flag.
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Re: Lotto Winner Loses Access To Pension
Reply #259 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:46pm
 
Setanta wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:45pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:38pm:
White flag accepted.


You'll be sacheting off, then?

The state gets to determine what's what when the state's doing the paying.


Gregg likes to do that. Mark his own homework kinda thing he has going on. I saw no white flag.


I saw no answer to my question.

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Reply #260 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:48pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:46pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:45pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:38pm:
White flag accepted.


You'll be sacheting off, then?

The state gets to determine what's what when the state's doing the paying.


Gregg likes to do that. Mark his own homework kinda thing he has going on. I saw no white flag.


I saw no answer to my question.



You did, you responded to them. The question number, the help sheet on what assets are. You are just trying to play the jester now. Snatch another white flag, snatch two!
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Re: Lotto Winner Loses Access To Pension
Reply #261 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:49pm
 
Setanta wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:46pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:45pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:38pm:
White flag accepted.


You'll be sacheting off, then?

The state gets to determine what's what when the state's doing the paying.


Gregg likes to do that. Mark his own homework kinda thing he has going on. I saw no white flag.


I saw no answer to my question.



You did, you responded to them. The question number, the help sheet on what assets are. You are just trying to play the jester now. Snatch another white flag, snatch two!


Where did you get your legal definition for "day to day"?

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Reply #262 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:51pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:42pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:38pm:
White flag accepted.


You'll be sacheting off, then?

The state gets to determine what's what when the state's doing the paying.


Cite your case law.

Simple enough request.



I'm assuming from you silence, that you have no case law to support your argument.

I suspected as much   Wink

Happy New Year   Smiley

Happy New Year to everyone   Smiley
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And Bobby, enjoy the lashings of gravy.

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Re: Lotto Winner Loses Access To Pension
Reply #263 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:57pm
 
That says "day to day" not for the next 3-10 years. It also gives an example - $100. Try telling them that your day to day expenses are $200k. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/aia1901230/s36.html

The Acts interpretation Act. Day to day is a period then of ONE day.
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Reply #264 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 6:04pm
 
Setanta wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:46pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:45pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 5:38pm:
White flag accepted.


You'll be sacheting off, then?

The state gets to determine what's what when the state's doing the paying.


Gregg likes to do that. Mark his own homework kinda thing he has going on. I saw no white flag.


I saw no answer to my question.



You did, you responded to them. The question number, the help sheet on what assets are. You are just trying to play the jester now. Snatch another white flag, snatch two!

He's playing the bush lawyer.

Regulations allow latitude to administrative agencies on these matters.

On this, in the first instance, it only matters what the agency determines 'day to day' means.

Common sense would indicate that it should mean those expenses you pay daily - e.g. food, petrol, general shopping items...

If regulations had to list all items that are included, they'd spend all parliamentary time updating regulations.

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Reply #265 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 6:08pm
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:28pm:
I've walked up to Belmont Forum and back since my last post and I was kinda hoping you would have come up with something better than that in my absence.

But instead... all I can see is your usual attempts at deflection.

So, again... where is your proof that I am hiding cash or committing welfare fraud as you've claimed?

While you're at it, perhaps you can also show me proof that I support welfare fraud as you are now trying to claim I do.

I also don't seem to recall Greg saying pensioners should hide their money. You really do seem to like making things up to suit your 'agenda', don't you?

And, no... me saying that I can't blame pensioners for hiding cash "under the mattress" these days isn't the proof you're looking for.

Take your time... I have all day now.  Smiley



aquascoot wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:49pm:
gweggy is bragging about getting 3000 from centrelink for a funeral when there was cash under the mattress.

you western australians may think thats a good deal

i'm calling it fraud

you supporting keeping cash under the mattress is fraud.

own it


Where did I say I'm supporting keeping cash under the mattress?

I said I don't blame pensioners for doing that which isn't saying I support it.

"own it"? The only one (well, one of several people actually) who is getting "owned" (or "pwned" to be more accurate in Internet 'lingo') in this thread is YOU.

Happy New Year everyone.  Smiley

And thanks to whiteknight for a most entertaining and enlightening thread (is this a new record for the number of replies in a whiteknight thread?).  Cool
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Reply #266 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 6:27pm
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 6:08pm:
Carl D wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:28pm:
I've walked up to Belmont Forum and back since my last post and I was kinda hoping you would have come up with something better than that in my absence.

But instead... all I can see is your usual attempts at deflection.

So, again... where is your proof that I am hiding cash or committing welfare fraud as you've claimed?

While you're at it, perhaps you can also show me proof that I support welfare fraud as you are now trying to claim I do.

I also don't seem to recall Greg saying pensioners should hide their money. You really do seem to like making things up to suit your 'agenda', don't you?

And, no... me saying that I can't blame pensioners for hiding cash "under the mattress" these days isn't the proof you're looking for.

Take your time... I have all day now.  Smiley



aquascoot wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:49pm:
gweggy is bragging about getting 3000 from centrelink for a funeral when there was cash under the mattress.

you western australians may think thats a good deal

i'm calling it fraud

you supporting keeping cash under the mattress is fraud.

own it


Where did I say I'm supporting keeping cash under the mattress?

I said I don't blame pensioners for doing that which isn't saying I support it.

"own it"? The only one (well, one of several people actually) who is getting "owned" (or "pwned" to be more accurate in Internet 'lingo') in this thread is YOU.

Happy New Year everyone.  Smiley

And thanks to whiteknight for a most entertaining and enlightening thread (is this a new record for the number of replies in a whiteknight thread?).  Cool


heres whar carl said in reply 75'

But, unless they have a search warrant to go to someone's house and tear it apart to look for hoarded cash (and they need to have a real good reason to do it) then there's really nothing they can do about it.

sounds like you are supporting hiding cash  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Reply #267 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 6:33pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 6:27pm:
heres whar carl said in reply 75'

But, unless they have a search warrant to go to someone's house and tear it apart to look for hoarded cash (and they need to have a real good reason to do it) then there's really nothing they can do about it.

sounds like you are supporting hiding cash  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Ah, "sounds like".

Yes, of course.

It all makes sense now.

Roll Eyes

(Your New Years Resolution should be to get your hearing checked ASAP).
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Reply #268 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 6:40pm
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 6:33pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 6:27pm:
heres whar carl said in reply 75'

But, unless they have a search warrant to go to someone's house and tear it apart to look for hoarded cash (and they need to have a real good reason to do it) then there's really nothing they can do about it.

sounds like you are supporting hiding cash  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Ah, "sounds like".

Yes, of course.

It all makes sense now.

Roll Eyes

(Your New Years Resolution should be to get your hearing checked ASAP).


Perhaps incitement to?
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Reply #269 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 6:51pm
 
the aged pension is already too generous

young people face crippling rents, hecs debts and cost of living whilst oldies who own their own home have spare cash for pokies and cruises

and now they want to hide cash from centrelink under their bed so they can maximise the parasitism

disgraceful stuff
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