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Reply #195 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 1:36pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 1:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 1:22pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 1:21pm:
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show us the receipt for this job and show us the entry for the 20 gst for the 31/12/2023 for a job you did at mts blogs


I don't recall doing a job on that particular day. Can you prove I was there? Can you prove I was paid cash and can you prove I was paid on that same day?



The gst is with the gst included in the rest of the $1000 I deposited that week for cash jobs


I don't believe you own any businesses horseboy,  you don't even understand how the tax office works


Is that an oxymoron?   Wink



Actually Greg, I've always found the tax office one off the better run government departments.  I'd rather phone them a dozen times than phone the department of social security once.


I've never had to deal with them much really.

They do seem pretty efficient, I guess.

My tax return is simple to do online, and the refund is in my bank within a week or so.

Centrelink, on the other hand, grrrrrrr   Angry

I've been dealing with my parents' pensions for the last few years, and it's not fun.

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Reply #196 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 1:40pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 1:36pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 1:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 1:22pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 1:21pm:
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show us the receipt for this job and show us the entry for the 20 gst for the 31/12/2023 for a job you did at mts blogs


I don't recall doing a job on that particular day. Can you prove I was there? Can you prove I was paid cash and can you prove I was paid on that same day?



The gst is with the gst included in the rest of the $1000 I deposited that week for cash jobs


I don't believe you own any businesses horseboy,  you don't even understand how the tax office works


Is that an oxymoron?   Wink



Actually Greg, I've always found the tax office one off the better run government departments.  I'd rather phone them a dozen times than phone the department of social security once.


I've never had to deal with them much really.

They do seem pretty efficient, I guess.

My tax return is simple to do online, and the refund is in my bank within a week or so.

Centrelink, on the other hand, grrrrrrr   Angry

I've been dealing with my parents' pensions for the last few years, and it's not fun.



Although, they did do one good thing for my mother after my father died.

They gave her about $3,000 for funeral costs.
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Reply #197 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 1:57pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 1:21pm:
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show us the receipt for this job and show us the entry for the 20 gst for the 31/12/2023 for a job you did at mts blogs


I don't recall doing a job on that particular day. Can you prove I was there? Can you prove I was paid cash and can you prove I was paid on that same day?



The gst is with the gst included in the rest of the $1000 I deposited that week for cash jobs


I don't believe you own any businesses horseboy,  you don't even understand how the tax office works



i dont recall


that will throw them off the scent

they do these stings to send a shudder through the whole industry

its also illegal for a tax agent to cover for the cash economy

i dont believe you have ever run a business Grin Grin
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Reply #198 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 1:59pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:02pm:
Centrelink wants Greggy's arse now.    Grin



Not if they're looking for a Perth guitar shop owner. Cheesy Cheesy

Who was the moron who came up with that one?


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Reply #199 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:09pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:24pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:20pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:17pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:14pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:12pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:03pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:01pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 11:59am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 11:56am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 11:52am:
My mother keeps about $40,000 - $50,000 cash on hand for shopping and other day to day expenses so, if she was applying for the pension today (and filling in that form), she wouldn't have to declare that money.

They tell her specifically NOT to.

Now you're heading towards reality and what Centrelink determines is a reasonable amount of cash on hand for shopping and other day-to-day expenses.



And that amount is ... ???

Whatever Centrelink determines it is.

If they find out you have $50K and decide that is unreasonable, they could withhold your pension and leave it to you to explain.


You really aren't paying attention.

The form specifically says: "Do NOT include cash you have for shopping and other day to day expenses".

So how would they find out how much cash anyone has on hand?

Are we back to the "Midnight Mattress Squad"?


You have no idea of the latitude that is given, under acts and regulations, to administrative departments.

How Centrelink comes to know about your cash holdings is one thing...


And that was the question.

So ... ???

The usual ways...

A relative or associate dobs you in.

You're part of a broader investigation into money laundering...


Dobs someone in for what?

$50,000 for shopping and day to day expenses over the course of a year is quite reasonable.

Not many luxuries can be bought with that sort of money.


You may think $50K is reasonable, but it's Centrelink that gets to make the call when it comes to paying a pension.

Up to $10K in cash on hand would fly under the radar... $50K... not so much.





I don't have/carry 12 months worth of cash for day to day expenses & shopping.

It's in the bank in a working account ... Centrelink know what I have in there. And it gets less by the weeks.

They also know what I have in Superannuation & what allocated pension is paid from that....

my wife isn't eligible for the pension until April 2024 .....

we have a joint bank account ... whats mine is hers.

I get half the couples rate of pension - $826 per fortnight .... that will double when my wife is eligible.

I will then reduce the amount paid by my super as an allocated pension.

I would never keep $50k cash in the house ... madness

I told my father when he was alive(ex bank manager) that he shouldn't do it either when I found he had $7,000 in his house.

They lived where they did for 30 years & never had a break-in ... then they had 2 within 6 weeks.

Same bastards..... got $10k worth of cash, jewellery and valuable Lodge regalia. 



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Re: Lotto Winner Loses Access To Pension
Reply #200 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:18pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:09pm:
I don't have/carry 12 months worth of cash for day to day expenses & shopping.

It's in the bank in a working account ... Centrelink know what I have in there. And it gets less by the weeks.

They also know what I have in Superannuation & what allocated pension is paid from that....

my wife isn't eligible for the pension until April 2024 .....

we have a joint bank account ... whats mine is hers.

I get half the couples rate of pension - $826 per fortnight .... that will double when my wife is eligible.

I will then reduce the amount paid by my super as an allocated pension.

I would never keep $50k cash in the house ... madness

I told my father when he was alive(ex bank manager) that he shouldn't do it either when I found he had $7,000 in his house.

They lived where they did for 30 years & never had a break-in ... then they had 2 within 6 weeks.

Same bastards..... got $10k worth of cash, jewellery and valuable Lodge regalia. 

Yes, I'd agree with that.

People who'd keep $50K in the house would be hard-pressed to find a lot of sympathy when street dogs work it out and roll them for it.

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Reply #201 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:19pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:28pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:21pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:14pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:12pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:03pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:01pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 11:59am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 11:56am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 11:52am:
My mother keeps about $40,000 - $50,000 cash on hand for shopping and other day to day expenses so, if she was applying for the pension today (and filling in that form), she wouldn't have to declare that money.

They tell her specifically NOT to.

Now you're heading towards reality and what Centrelink determines is a reasonable amount of cash on hand for shopping and other day-to-day expenses.



And that amount is ... ???

Whatever Centrelink determines it is.

If they find out you have $50K and decide that is unreasonable, they could withhold your pension and leave it to you to explain.


You really aren't paying attention.

The form specifically says: "Do NOT include cash you have for shopping and other day to day expenses".

So how would they find out how much cash anyone has on hand?

Are we back to the "Midnight Mattress Squad"?


You have no idea of the latitude that is given, under acts and regulations, to administrative departments.

How Centrelink comes to know about your cash holdings is one thing...


And that was the question.

So ... ???

Moreover, spending $50,000 a year on shopping and day to day expenses seems quite conservative.

I'm quite sure that I spend much more than that.


Are you eating Russian caviar, and buying/selling cars for cash?


$961 a week for shopping and day to day expenses is not extravagant.

Not even close.

Rent alone will set someone back at least $400.


List the expenses (excluding debt like mortgage and credit cards) that would top out at $1K per week.


Lets assume that the average pensioner will live for another ten years once they start receiving the pension.  Quite reasonable.

If they have $50,000 under their mattress, that's only gonna leave them with $96 per week for shopping and other day to day expenses.

Do they have a right to a pension while they can support themselves for at least 2-3 years?


$50k won't support you for 2 to 3 years.

I retired early at 63 because of medical issues, we had to live on my super alone until I was 66.5 yrs old.

I got what Centre Link considered the full pension for a couple where 1 partner is not eligible when I turned 66 & 1/2.

I thought that was Irish logic because a single pension is about $1,050 per fortnight ... they said all I could have was half of the couples rate of $1,600 a fortnight.

My wife has not worked for 30 years.




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Re: Lotto Winner Loses Access To Pension
Reply #202 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:23pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:19pm:
$50k won't support you for 2 to 3 years.

I retired early at 63 because of medical issues, we had to live on my super alone until I was 66.5 yrs old.

I got what Centre Link considered the full pension for a couple where 1 partner is not eligible when I turned 66 & 1/2.

I thought that was Irish logic because a single pension is about $1,050 per fortnight ... they said all I could have was half of the couples rate of $1,600 a fortnight.

My wife has not worked for 30 years.

Did you still have debt (e.g. mortgage, loans, credit card debt etc) ?
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Reply #203 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:28pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:51pm:
Carl D wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:36pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:33pm:
hi carl

you said my son would be an idiot for declaring cashies

classic taker mentality

do you agree pensioners have a duty to declare any cash they have as an asset



Carl D wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:30pm:
Where did Carl say I was hiding cash or committing welfare fraud?

I don't get a cent from Centrelink at the moment. I haven't had any money from Centrelink since the mid 1980's when I was unemployed for several years (it was known as the Department of Social Security back then).

I didn't even bother renewing my Low Income Health Card last month (which I have been entitled to, by the way) because I will be applying for the age pension in about 6 months time.

So, please show me the proof that I am a thief and a criminal.

I'll wait.

(By the way - you're still an idiot).


Still waiting...


you supported gweggys position that pensioners should hide money

you support welfare fraud

dont come the raw prawn

as for gweggys saying you can have cash for groceries, that doesnt mean you can keep a stash under the mattress to avoid tripping the assets test rules

grow up


I've walked up to Belmont Forum and back since my last post and I was kinda hoping you would have come up with something better than that in my absence.

But instead... all I can see is your usual attempts at deflection.

So, again... where is your proof that I am hiding cash or committing welfare fraud as you've claimed?

While you're at it, perhaps you can also show me proof that I support welfare fraud as you are now trying to claim I do.

I also don't seem to recall Greg saying pensioners should hide their money. You really do seem to like making things up to suit your 'agenda', don't you?

And, no... me saying that I can't blame pensioners for hiding cash "under the mattress" these days isn't the proof you're looking for.

Take your time... I have all day now.  Smiley
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Reply #204 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:32pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 11:12am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 11:11am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 11:07am:
Which section on the official Centrelink assets form, to be signed by the applicant, asks for cash to be declared?

https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-07/sa369-2307en-f....

Just give us the number.

You're the sort of bush lawyer who gets the naive into a lot of sh!t.


Which section on the official Centrelink assets form, to be signed by the applicant, asks for cash to be declared?

https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-07/sa369-2307en-f....

Just give us the number.



youre getting desperate now gweggy

i assure you, the cash economy is not immune from the scrutiny of centrelink, the tax department and the child support agency

you are naive beyond belief, or more likely a liar.

i know a business guy who was audited

they asked him to show where the cash came for multiple things in his possession.

we even had a politician get into grief for a bottle of expensive wine they had in their possession ( i forget who)
their powers are broad ranging

if , for example, your parents never got money out of the bank for groceries and had groceries , the auditors could ask  "how"

if someone tipped them off, you would be surprised how cunning they are.

as for my son the electrician

an old lady we know is actually paid by the ATO to get tradies out to do little jobs (fix a leaky tap, change a light bulb)  she pays cash and doesnt ask for a reciept. after a couple of years, the tax department pull the trap.  and they come down on them like a ton of bricks.  massive fines.

i have told my son to NEVER do a cashie



Funny how in the last few months I had jobs done by a small motors business,  a car detailer and a smoke alarm installer ....

and they all wanted cash.

Ride on mower repairs were $198

Ceramic coating applied to paint work on my car
$2650

Install new required standard connected smoke alarms in the house - $500

All registered ABN business who also advertise their businesses on radio, Local Search & TV
all wanted cash. No receipts. 
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Reply #205 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:39pm
 
"In 2021–22 the agency completed a total of 18,901 RSS reviews covering the
following 13 social welfare payments, representing 97% of social welfare outlays:"

...

"Our prevention, detection and disruption activities include:
• staff fraud and corruption awareness raising to ensure staff understand their
responsibilities to prevent fraud and corruption and report suspicious behaviour
• collaboration across government to achieve whole-of-government fraud and
corruption control outcomes"

...

"In 2021–22, our effort to combat fraud and corruption led to:
• 709 criminal investigations
• 988 administrative investigations
• 203 referrals to the CDPP."

...

"Table 34: Social welfare compliance activity
2019–20 2020–21 2021–22
Compliance interventions 898,574 194,770 165,948
Reductions in fortnightly payments 71,841 26,834 34,113
Value of fortnightly reductions $25.2 million $15.6 million $20.5 million
Prevented outlays $52.7 million N/A (a) N/A (a)
Debts raised 142,155 31,654 25,682
Total debt value $364.4 million $59.2 million $54.9 million"

...

"Table 35: Debts raised from customers who received social welfare payments
2019–20 2020–21 2021–22
Number of debts raised 1,758,484 1,693,911 1,636,710
Amount raised $2.4 billion $2.0 billion $2.1 billion"

https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/2022-10/annual-report-2...

Just a few excerpts from the Services Australia Annual Report 2022.

"Liquid assets waiting period"

"It applies if you have funds equal to or more than either:

    $5,500 if you’re single with no dependants
    $11,000 if have a partner or you’re single with dependants."

https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/liquid-assets-waiting-period?context=51411

Cash is a liquid asset.
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Reply #206 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:43pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:23pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:19pm:
$50k won't support you for 2 to 3 years.

I retired early at 63 because of medical issues, we had to live on my super alone until I was 66.5 yrs old.

I got what Centre Link considered the full pension for a couple where 1 partner is not eligible when I turned 66 & 1/2.

I thought that was Irish logic because a single pension is about $1,050 per fortnight ... they said all I could have was half of the couples rate of $1,600 a fortnight.

My wife has not worked for 30 years.

Did you still have debt (e.g. mortgage, loans, credit card debt etc) ?



I did when I retired .... but that was paid off with my super.

I haven't had a credit card for nearly 40 years. When I did have one .... it helped keep us broke.
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Reply #207 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:46pm
 
So we can see by quite a number of posts and members here, that CASH is still a 'bonus' aspect.
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Reply #208 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:46pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:32pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 11:12am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 11:11am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 11:07am:
Which section on the official Centrelink assets form, to be signed by the applicant, asks for cash to be declared?

https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-07/sa369-2307en-f....

Just give us the number.

You're the sort of bush lawyer who gets the naive into a lot of sh!t.


Which section on the official Centrelink assets form, to be signed by the applicant, asks for cash to be declared?

https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-07/sa369-2307en-f....

Just give us the number.



youre getting desperate now gweggy

i assure you, the cash economy is not immune from the scrutiny of centrelink, the tax department and the child support agency

you are naive beyond belief, or more likely a liar.

i know a business guy who was audited

they asked him to show where the cash came for multiple things in his possession.

we even had a politician get into grief for a bottle of expensive wine they had in their possession ( i forget who)
their powers are broad ranging

if , for example, your parents never got money out of the bank for groceries and had groceries , the auditors could ask  "how"

if someone tipped them off, you would be surprised how cunning they are.

as for my son the electrician

an old lady we know is actually paid by the ATO to get tradies out to do little jobs (fix a leaky tap, change a light bulb)  she pays cash and doesnt ask for a reciept. after a couple of years, the tax department pull the trap.  and they come down on them like a ton of bricks.  massive fines.

i have told my son to NEVER do a cashie



Funny how in the last few months I had jobs done by a small motors business,  a car detailer and a smoke alarm installer ....

and they all wanted cash.

Ride on mower repairs were $198

Ceramic coating applied to paint work on my car
$2650

Install new required standard connected smoke alarms in the house - $500

All registered ABN business who also advertise their businesses on radio, Local Search & TV
all wanted cash. No receipts. 


they run the risk you report them annonymously.

and then they are on the ATO radar for life.

its not worth a good nights sleep

a tax audit is a serious stressor
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Reply #209 - Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:49pm
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 2:28pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:51pm:
Carl D wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:36pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:33pm:
hi carl

you said my son would be an idiot for declaring cashies

classic taker mentality

do you agree pensioners have a duty to declare any cash they have as an asset



Carl D wrote on Dec 31st, 2023 at 12:30pm:
Where did Carl say I was hiding cash or committing welfare fraud?

I don't get a cent from Centrelink at the moment. I haven't had any money from Centrelink since the mid 1980's when I was unemployed for several years (it was known as the Department of Social Security back then).

I didn't even bother renewing my Low Income Health Card last month (which I have been entitled to, by the way) because I will be applying for the age pension in about 6 months time.

So, please show me the proof that I am a thief and a criminal.

I'll wait.

(By the way - you're still an idiot).


Still waiting...


you supported gweggys position that pensioners should hide money

you support welfare fraud

dont come the raw prawn

as for gweggys saying you can have cash for groceries, that doesnt mean you can keep a stash under the mattress to avoid tripping the assets test rules

grow up


I've walked up to Belmont Forum and back since my last post and I was kinda hoping you would have come up with something better than that in my absence.

But instead... all I can see is your usual attempts at deflection.

So, again... where is your proof that I am hiding cash or committing welfare fraud as you've claimed?

While you're at it, perhaps you can also show me proof that I support welfare fraud as you are now trying to claim I do.

I also don't seem to recall Greg saying pensioners should hide their money. You really do seem to like making things up to suit your 'agenda', don't you?

And, no... me saying that I can't blame pensioners for hiding cash "under the mattress" these days isn't the proof you're looking for.

Take your time... I have all day now.  Smiley



gweggy is bragging about getting 3000 from centrelink for a funeral when there was cash under the mattress.

you western australians may think thats a good deal

i'm calling it fraud

you supporting keeping cash under the mattress is fraud.

own it
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