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Karnal wrote on Dec 21 st, 2023 at 5:53pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21 st, 2023 at 4:57pm: Karnal wrote on Dec 21 st, 2023 at 4:52pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21 st, 2023 at 4:45pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 21 st, 2023 at 4:37pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21 st, 2023 at 4:12pm: don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person. He didn't run an insurrection ? He didn't get himself impeached twice ? He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ? He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself? He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case? He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ? etc. Well of course he did. covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america, that is an insane position to suggest anyone else would have been any different. look at the titanic struiggle it was in australia of all places, a country with no land borders and relatively few entry/exit points, and relatively homogeneous inter-state politics. the red states would never have accepted lockdowns at all and that alone would have doomed the entire country to covid spread. i don't give a f_ck about the rest sorry Good point, JC. It's too hard to run a country like America. Imagine, they saved more lives in India.On the upside, the Yanks managed to keep the tinted races out for three years with title 42, so it's even-Steven, no? imagine thinking that a country like india with a median age of of 28 is comparable to the u.s, a country which also has the highest obesity rate in the world remember what the two biggest aggravating comorbidities of covid were? did you even know in the first place? or have you forgotten? there's a reason why sub-saharan africa was effectively unimpacted by it >also assuming that indian statistics would be as accurate as a first world country LoL No worries, then we'll compare the US to a similar developed federation. The states run health in both countries. In one country, a fully functional commonwealth united the states in an informal "federal cabinet". That country suffered 992 deaths per million people. America copped 3,384. The difference? Leadership. America was led by an executive administration that publicly shunned masks, defunded states who had lockdowns, spruiked injections of bleach to do a number on the lungs and ran a social media misinformation campaign against its own director of Disease Control. Resources were distributed according to political allegiance and just how effusive governors were prepared to be in their praise and political endorsement of their DL. The other country had a functional Westminster system that left the responsibility for health in the hands of state ministers and health secretaries. The role of the feds was to support and coordinate those tasked with doing their jobs. Resources were allocated according to need, or as the French scientific socialist Henri Saint-Simon put it, from each according to his means, to each according to his needs.Therein you see the difference in such political systems, JC. A 300% difference in the value of their respective citizens' lives, yes, but something more as well. Can you spot the difference? By that idiotic paki 'logic', Africa has the best political and governance system in the world.
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