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Reply #105 - Dec 21^st, 2023 at 7:56pm

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 6:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 5:53pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:57pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:52pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:37pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:12pm:

don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person.

He didn't run an insurrection ?

He didn't get himself impeached twice ?

He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ?

He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself?

He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case?

He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ?

etc.

Well of course he did.

covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america, that is an insane position to suggest anyone else would have been any different. look at the titanic struiggle it was in australia of all places, a country with no land borders and relatively few entry/exit points, and relatively homogeneous inter-state politics. the red states would never have accepted lockdowns at all and that alone would have doomed the entire country to covid spread.

i don't give a f_ck about the rest sorry

Good point, JC. It's too hard to run a country like America. Imagine, they saved more lives in India.

On the upside, the Yanks managed to keep the tinted races out for three years with title 42, so it's even-Steven, no?

imagine thinking that a country like india with a median age of of 28 is comparable to the u.s, a country which also has the highest obesity rate in the world

remember what the two biggest aggravating comorbidities of covid were? did you even know in the first place? or have you forgotten? there's a reason why sub-saharan africa was effectively unimpacted by it

>also assuming that indian statistics would be as accurate as a first world country LoL

No worries, then we'll compare the US to a similar developed federation. The states run health in both countries. In one country, a fully functional commonwealth united the states in an informal "federal cabinet". That country suffered 992 deaths per million people.

America copped 3,384. The difference?

Leadership. America was led by an executive administration that publicly shunned masks, defunded states who had lockdowns, spruiked injections of bleach to do a number on the lungs and ran a social media misinformation campaign against its own director of Disease Control. Resources were distributed according to political allegiance and just how effusive governors were prepared to be in their praise and political endorsement of their DL.

The other country had a functional Westminster system that left the responsibility for health in the hands of state ministers and health secretaries. The role of the feds was to support and coordinate those tasked with doing their jobs. Resources were allocated according to need, or as the French scientific socialist Henri Saint-Simon put it, from each according to his means, to each according to his needs.

Therein you see the difference in such political systems, JC. A 300% difference in the value of their respective citizens' lives, yes, but something more as well.

Can you spot the difference?

By that idiotic paki 'logic', Africa has the best political and governance system in the world.

Not at all, dear boy. I believe the Africans were saved by their genetic congruence with apes.

How did the African Americans fare?

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Re: Colorado boots Humpty
Reply #106 - Dec 21^st, 2023 at 7:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 6:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 6:01pm:

Ah, but your DL lied in contracts to his lenders. This is called business fraud. His Chief Financial Officer was sentenced to three months on Rikers.

Your DL will be fined $250 mil, lose his license to operate in New York and have his case presented to the DA for criminal charges. There is no doubting the fraud in this case. Your DL has made no defence.

The criminality is yet to be tested. We'll have to wait and see what happens, no?

But it doesn't make sense -
he campaigned on Law and Order.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/143/402/921/original/a33af9...

That's right, Bobby. A criminal campaigning on law and order.

What say you?

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Re: Colorado boots Humpty
Reply #107 - Dec 21^st, 2023 at 7:59pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 7:48pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:37pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:12pm:

don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person.

He didn't run an insurrection ?

He didn't get himself impeached twice ?

He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ?

He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself?

He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case?

He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ?

etc.

Well of course he did.

covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america, that is an insane position to suggest anyone else would have been any different. look at the titanic struggle it was in australia of all places, a country with no land borders and relatively few entry/exit points, and relatively homogeneous inter-state politics. the red states would never have accepted lockdowns at all and that alone would have doomed the entire country to covid spread.

i don't give a f_ck about the rest sorry

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covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america

People in the US died at about a 300% greater rate than most of the western world.

Trump was telling everyone that there was about 5 cases and it would be contained when he knew that this wasn't true.

He went on to insist that it would all go away when it got warmer. People believed him. Trump had a never ending series of excuses to take no action and to make sure people remained at risk. Trump believed that he needed the economy to remain functioning for his re election and people died he was also wrong.

Trump had his fingerprints all over many of the coffins, he also held a huge series of mass spreader events.

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i don't give a f_xx about the rest sorry

No surprise there, you should. Trump was never a fit person to be President. Well maybe the West Dubbo Bowling club with some supervision.

So All Americans were slavishly hanging on Trump's every word and followed everything he said.
Nobody ever listened to Fauci, Trump's opponents and critics - no, everyone blindly did as Trump told them.

A bit like you when someone brings peas to the yard, no?

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Re: Colorado boots Humpty
Reply #108 - Dec 21^st, 2023 at 8:08pm

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 6:12pm:

which country was that .....? you talking about australia yeah? why didn't you just list the country you were comparing to the u.s to rather than play this cryptic bullchit?

yeah -- i already told you why the death rate was way lower here -- way fewer international entrance points, no land borders whatsoever, 25m people overwhelmingly concentrated in a handful of urban nodes vs. 330m people in a highly decentralised country, homogenous state politics that effectively behave as though the country is a unitary state rather than a federation. there are no political differences here and all the states colluded in preventing the olds from karking it maybe 1-1.5 years earlier than they would have had lockdown not been implemented, and now we're all happy campers with all the inflation and economic turmoil that has contributed to creating.

i literally cited "political system" as an explanation for the differential between australia and the u.s -- which predominantly means significant political differences between the states and attitudes towards these things in general. trump may have been able to mitigate a few more of those deaths, but it would have been nearly impossible regardless given the unique attitude of americans towards not being told what to do. i think you know this, these r_tards won't even brook giving up their assault rifles to prevent kids from getting killed in schools

imagine thinking missisippi, florida, alabama, etc. would all be willing to listen to a democratic president telling them to lockdown and close their state borders though (and that assumes that would even be judicially possible in america - unlike the courts here that just rubber stamp whatever the government wants), it would have made almost no difference whatsoever whoever was in charge.

you know heaps of people are still dying from the rona now right? the only difference is no one cares and no one is checking or testing for it anymore. do you still wear a mask or did the pantomime and novelty of it wear off for you too?

Mississippi, Florida and Alabama did exactly what they were told by their DLs.

As did New Yorkers and Californians. Those states had significant differences in deaths, but do you know?

Just like Aussie Aussie Aussie, the timing of the lockdowns and the vaxes saved the day. Americans would have lined up for their clot shots like good little automatons if their leaders rolled up their sleeves and did the same.

You know which leaders. Not being too cryptic am I, dear?

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Re: Colorado boots Humpty
Reply #109 - Dec 21^st, 2023 at 8:13pm

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 7:59pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 7:48pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:37pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:12pm:

don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person.

He didn't run an insurrection ?

He didn't get himself impeached twice ?

He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ?

He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself?

He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case?

He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ?

etc.

Well of course he did.

covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america, that is an insane position to suggest anyone else would have been any different. look at the titanic struggle it was in australia of all places, a country with no land borders and relatively few entry/exit points, and relatively homogeneous inter-state politics. the red states would never have accepted lockdowns at all and that alone would have doomed the entire country to covid spread.

i don't give a f_ck about the rest sorry

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covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america

People in the US died at about a 300% greater rate than most of the western world.

Trump was telling everyone that there was about 5 cases and it would be contained when he knew that this wasn't true.

He went on to insist that it would all go away when it got warmer. People believed him. Trump had a never ending series of excuses to take no action and to make sure people remained at risk. Trump believed that he needed the economy to remain functioning for his re election and people died he was also wrong.

Trump had his fingerprints all over many of the coffins, he also held a huge series of mass spreader events.

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i don't give a f_xx about the rest sorry

No surprise there, you should. Trump was never a fit person to be President. Well maybe the West Dubbo Bowling club with some supervision.

So All Americans were slavishly hanging on Trump's every word and followed everything he said.

Ee-gad, unlike you?

Shurley shome mishtake.

If you've ever disagreed with your DL, dear boy, you've certainly kept it to yourself.

What, exactly, do you disagree upon?

The tacky ceiling frescoes in the Trump penthouse? The fake Renoir? The furniture? Which?

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Re: Colorado boots Humpty
Reply #110 - Dec 21^st, 2023 at 8:19pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 8:13pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 7:59pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 7:48pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:37pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:12pm:

don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person.

He didn't run an insurrection ?

He didn't get himself impeached twice ?

He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ?

He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself?

He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case?

He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ?

etc.

Well of course he did.

covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america, that is an insane position to suggest anyone else would have been any different. look at the titanic struggle it was in australia of all places, a country with no land borders and relatively few entry/exit points, and relatively homogeneous inter-state politics. the red states would never have accepted lockdowns at all and that alone would have doomed the entire country to covid spread.

i don't give a f_ck about the rest sorry

Quote:

covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america

People in the US died at about a 300% greater rate than most of the western world.

Trump was telling everyone that there was about 5 cases and it would be contained when he knew that this wasn't true.

He went on to insist that it would all go away when it got warmer. People believed him. Trump had a never ending series of excuses to take no action and to make sure people remained at risk. Trump believed that he needed the economy to remain functioning for his re election and people died he was also wrong.

Trump had his fingerprints all over many of the coffins, he also held a huge series of mass spreader events.

Quote:

i don't give a f_xx about the rest sorry

No surprise there, you should. Trump was never a fit person to be President. Well maybe the West Dubbo Bowling club with some supervision.

So All Americans were slavishly hanging on Trump's every word and followed everything he said.

Ee-gad, unlike you?

Shurley shome mishtake.

If you've ever disagreed with your DL, dear boy, you've certainly kept it to yourself.

What, exactly, do you disagree upon?

The tacky ceiling frescoes in the Trump penthouse? The fake Renoir? The furniture? Which?

Medication time, arse bandit. Your twitch is out of control.

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Reply #111 - Dec 21^st, 2023 at 8:48pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 7:48pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:37pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:12pm:

don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person.

He didn't run an insurrection ?

He didn't get himself impeached twice ?

He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ?

He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself?

He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case?

He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ?

etc.

Well of course he did.

covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america, that is an insane position to suggest anyone else would have been any different. look at the titanic struggle it was in australia of all places, a country with no land borders and relatively few entry/exit points, and relatively homogeneous inter-state politics. the red states would never have accepted lockdowns at all and that alone would have doomed the entire country to covid spread.

i don't give a f_ck about the rest sorry

Quote:

covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america

People in the US died at about a 300% greater rate than most of the western world.

Trump was telling everyone that there was about 5 cases and it would be contained when he knew that this wasn't true.

He went on to insist that it would all go away when it got warmer. People believed him. Trump had a never ending series of excuses to take no action and to make sure people remained at risk. Trump believed that he needed the economy to remain functioning for his re election and people died he was also wrong.

Trump had his fingerprints all over many of the coffins, he also held a huge series of mass spreader events.

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i don't give a f_xx about the rest sorry

No surprise there, you should. Trump was never a fit person to be President. Well maybe the West Dubbo Bowling club with some supervision.

where did you get those numbers from mate?

the actual per capita death rate in america doesn't seem to be that out of the ordinary compared to a lot of 'western countries', including the uk and italy -- shocking given how many americans are fat disgusting pieces of sh_t, and that's assuming you take the statistics at face value, which you shouldn't

and that death rate was the result of what i have already enunciated, which you ignored

as for your last point you're completely correct, the idea that senile geriatric old fools like joe biden and donald trump should be the head of state of any country, let alone the usa, is absurd and a testament to how retarded universal franchise liberal 'democracies' are

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Reply #112 - Dec 21^st, 2023 at 8:59pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 8:08pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 6:12pm:

which country was that .....? you talking about australia yeah? why didn't you just list the country you were comparing to the u.s to rather than play this cryptic bullchit?

yeah -- i already told you why the death rate was way lower here -- way fewer international entrance points, no land borders whatsoever, 25m people overwhelmingly concentrated in a handful of urban nodes vs. 330m people in a highly decentralised country, homogenous state politics that effectively behave as though the country is a unitary state rather than a federation. there are no political differences here and all the states colluded in preventing the olds from karking it maybe 1-1.5 years earlier than they would have had lockdown not been implemented, and now we're all happy campers with all the inflation and economic turmoil that has contributed to creating.

i literally cited "political system" as an explanation for the differential between australia and the u.s -- which predominantly means significant political differences between the states and attitudes towards these things in general. trump may have been able to mitigate a few more of those deaths, but it would have been nearly impossible regardless given the unique attitude of americans towards not being told what to do. i think you know this, these r_tards won't even brook giving up their assault rifles to prevent kids from getting killed in schools

imagine thinking missisippi, florida, alabama, etc. would all be willing to listen to a democratic president telling them to lockdown and close their state borders though (and that assumes that would even be judicially possible in america - unlike the courts here that just rubber stamp whatever the government wants), it would have made almost no difference whatsoever whoever was in charge.

you know heaps of people are still dying from the rona now right? the only difference is no one cares and no one is checking or testing for it anymore. do you still wear a mask or did the pantomime and novelty of it wear off for you too?

Mississippi, Florida and Alabama did exactly what they were told by their DLs.

As did New Yorkers and Californians. Those states had significant differences in deaths, but do you know?

Just like Aussie Aussie Aussie, the timing of the lockdowns and the vaxes saved the day. Americans would have lined up for their clot shots like good little automatons if their leaders rolled up their sleeves and did the same.

You know which leaders. Not being too cryptic am I, dear?

not everyone is like australians and just does whatever people tell them to do, whether that's a good or a bad thing is up to you though

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Reply #113 - Dec 21^st, 2023 at 9:11pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 7:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 6:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 6:01pm:

Ah, but your DL lied in contracts to his lenders. This is called business fraud. His Chief Financial Officer was sentenced to three months on Rikers.

Your DL will be fined $250 mil, lose his license to operate in New York and have his case presented to the DA for criminal charges. There is no doubting the fraud in this case. Your DL has made no defence.

The criminality is yet to be tested. We'll have to wait and see what happens, no?

But it doesn't make sense -
he campaigned on Law and Order.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/143/402/921/original/a33af9...

That's right, Bobby. A criminal campaigning on law and order.

What say you?

But Trump stands for everything good -
he's like Jesus.

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Reply #114 - Dec 21^st, 2023 at 9:15pm

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 8:48pm:

where did you get those numbers from mate?

the actual per capita death rate in america doesn't seem to be that out of the ordinary compared to a lot of 'western countries', including the uk and italy -- shocking given how many americans are fat disgusting pieces of sh_t, and that's assuming you take the statistics at face value, which you shouldn't

https://i.imgur.com/zLoKoVI.png

and that death rate was the result of what i have already enunciated, which you ignored

as for your last point you're completely correct, the idea that senile geriatric old fools like joe biden and donald trump should be the head of state of any country, let alone the usa, is absurd and a testament to how retarded universal franchise liberal 'democracies' are

Australia is only 26M/23,728 = 1096 deaths per million of our population -
that's about one third of the USA death rate.

https://covidlive.com.au/

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Reply #115 - Dec 21^st, 2023 at 9:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 9:15pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 8:48pm:

where did you get those numbers from mate?

the actual per capita death rate in america doesn't seem to be that out of the ordinary compared to a lot of 'western countries', including the uk and italy -- shocking given how many americans are fat disgusting pieces of sh_t, and that's assuming you take the statistics at face value, which you shouldn't

https://i.imgur.com/zLoKoVI.png

and that death rate was the result of what i have already enunciated, which you ignored

as for your last point you're completely correct, the idea that senile geriatric old fools like joe biden and donald trump should be the head of state of any country, let alone the usa, is absurd and a testament to how retarded universal franchise liberal 'democracies' are

Australia is only 26M/23,728 = 1096 deaths per million of our population -
that's about one third of the USA death rate.

https://covidlive.com.au/

he said "the western world" which australia is a tiny % of the entirety of

doesnt seem to be true whatsoever, in fact there are quite a few countries in the western world with a higher death rate than the u.s

if you look closely at the inter country comparisons a large number of western countries cluster roughly around ~3000 deaths per million, which is fairly close to the u.s rate. only countries like australia represent relative outliers and thats bc we were willing to pursue the most hilariously egregious human-rights-violation-o-thon outside of china to achieve it, all so that grandma can live an extra 6 months in front of her tv in the nursing home with meals on wheels

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Reply #116 - Dec 21^st, 2023 at 10:38pm

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 8:19pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 8:13pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 7:59pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 7:48pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:37pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:12pm:

don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person.

He didn't run an insurrection ?

He didn't get himself impeached twice ?

He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ?

He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself?

He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case?

He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ?

etc.

Well of course he did.

covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america, that is an insane position to suggest anyone else would have been any different. look at the titanic struggle it was in australia of all places, a country with no land borders and relatively few entry/exit points, and relatively homogeneous inter-state politics. the red states would never have accepted lockdowns at all and that alone would have doomed the entire country to covid spread.

i don't give a f_ck about the rest sorry

Quote:

covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america

People in the US died at about a 300% greater rate than most of the western world.

Trump was telling everyone that there was about 5 cases and it would be contained when he knew that this wasn't true.

He went on to insist that it would all go away when it got warmer. People believed him. Trump had a never ending series of excuses to take no action and to make sure people remained at risk. Trump believed that he needed the economy to remain functioning for his re election and people died he was also wrong.

Trump had his fingerprints all over many of the coffins, he also held a huge series of mass spreader events.

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i don't give a f_xx about the rest sorry

No surprise there, you should. Trump was never a fit person to be President. Well maybe the West Dubbo Bowling club with some supervision.

So All Americans were slavishly hanging on Trump's every word and followed everything he said.

Ee-gad, unlike you?

Shurley shome mishtake.

If you've ever disagreed with your DL, dear boy, you've certainly kept it to yourself.

What, exactly, do you disagree upon?

The tacky ceiling frescoes in the Trump penthouse? The fake Renoir? The furniture? Which?

Medication time, arse bandit. Your twitch is out of control.

I see, then you agree.

So why didn't you just say that to begin with, dear boy? Why play all toosh magroosh?

You obey your DL, as is your right as a foreign citizen.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you flew here, ja?

Anything so unfair you'd care to object to here?

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Reply #117 - Dec 21^st, 2023 at 10:49pm

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 8:59pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 8:08pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 6:12pm:

which country was that .....? you talking about australia yeah? why didn't you just list the country you were comparing to the u.s to rather than play this cryptic bullchit?

yeah -- i already told you why the death rate was way lower here -- way fewer international entrance points, no land borders whatsoever, 25m people overwhelmingly concentrated in a handful of urban nodes vs. 330m people in a highly decentralised country, homogenous state politics that effectively behave as though the country is a unitary state rather than a federation. there are no political differences here and all the states colluded in preventing the olds from karking it maybe 1-1.5 years earlier than they would have had lockdown not been implemented, and now we're all happy campers with all the inflation and economic turmoil that has contributed to creating.

i literally cited "political system" as an explanation for the differential between australia and the u.s -- which predominantly means significant political differences between the states and attitudes towards these things in general. trump may have been able to mitigate a few more of those deaths, but it would have been nearly impossible regardless given the unique attitude of americans towards not being told what to do. i think you know this, these r_tards won't even brook giving up their assault rifles to prevent kids from getting killed in schools

imagine thinking missisippi, florida, alabama, etc. would all be willing to listen to a democratic president telling them to lockdown and close their state borders though (and that assumes that would even be judicially possible in america - unlike the courts here that just rubber stamp whatever the government wants), it would have made almost no difference whatsoever whoever was in charge.

you know heaps of people are still dying from the rona now right? the only difference is no one cares and no one is checking or testing for it anymore. do you still wear a mask or did the pantomime and novelty of it wear off for you too?

Mississippi, Florida and Alabama did exactly what they were told by their DLs.

As did New Yorkers and Californians. Those states had significant differences in deaths, but do you know?

Just like Aussie Aussie Aussie, the timing of the lockdowns and the vaxes saved the day. Americans would have lined up for their clot shots like good little automatons if their leaders rolled up their sleeves and did the same.

You know which leaders. Not being too cryptic am I, dear?

not everyone is like australians and just does whatever people tell them to do, whether that's a good or a bad thing is up to you though

It's not up to me, dear, it's down to the data.

By your own measure, your jolly united states saw three times the deaths as us.

That's not because of any fixed, immutable law of death, it's because their leaders didn't follow the medical advice, freely given.

Don't pretend it's all about individual freedom, it's about incentives. We're talking hundreds of thousands of deaths here. In America, every family knows someone killed by covid.

We don't. Quite simply, we have a superior leadership model. The jury's in.

Ever get the feeling you've been farmed?

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Reply #118 - Dec 22^nd, 2023 at 10:52am

Colorado Supreme Court Demands Jack Phillips Bake Cake To Celebrate Trump Ruling

DENVER, CO — In a 4-3 decision, the Colorado Supreme Court will require Masterpiece Cakeshop owner Jack Phillips to bake a celebration cake honoring the Colorado Supreme Court's decision to remove Trump from the ballot.

"The cake must have the words 'Dump Trump' in giant red letters," said Justice Richard Gabriel in his opinion. "No wait — have it say DRUMPF! HA! Classic. And put some little rainbow flags and Palestinian flags all over it. It is the opinion of the court that failure to bake this cake for us constitutes illegal discrimination."

Justice Gabriel then banged his gavel loudly to make it official.

Not satire.

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Reply #119 - Dec 22^nd, 2023 at 12:31pm

Frank wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2023 at 10:52am:

Colorado Supreme Court Demands Jack Phillips Bake Cake To Celebrate Trump Ruling

DENVER, CO — In a 4-3 decision, the Colorado Supreme Court will require Masterpiece Cakeshop owner Jack Phillips to bake a celebration cake honoring the Colorado Supreme Court's decision to remove Trump from the ballot.

"The cake must have the words 'Dump Trump' in giant red letters," said Justice Richard Gabriel in his opinion. "No wait — have it say DRUMPF! HA! Classic. And put some little rainbow flags and Palestinian flags all over it. It is the opinion of the court that failure to bake this cake for us constitutes illegal discrimination."

Justice Gabriel then banged his gavel loudly to make it official.

Not satire.

I know, right? I hear American judges are pretty tough on crime, old boy. They like to bang their gavels ever so.

Justice Gabriel is referring to the Trump family's legal name, a German one with Nazi connections on the paternal side. The Palestinian flags represent the big fella's hatred of Bibi and his reference to Hezbollah being really smart.

He's suggesting the cake so that Mr Trumpf won't get all toosh and blame the court for doing its job.

You know, a bit like you will after reading this post.

WITCH HUNT!!!

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