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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 52821 Gender:	Re: The Retarded Right and aftereffects of Roe V Wade Reply #60 - Dec 27^th, 2023 at 11:46pm Monk should stick to worming dogs.
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Re: The Retarded Right and aftereffects of Roe V Wade
Reply #61 - Dec 28^th, 2023 at 6:58am

Tap wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 10:25pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 9:51pm:

Tap wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 9:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 9:41pm:

Tap wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 8:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 8:06pm:

Tap wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 7:20pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 5:27pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 12:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 10:59am:

Frank wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 10:10am:

The States have their own democratically elected parliaments and governments which make laws that reflect the will of the people in each state.

The states are still bound by the constitution

So they are. And?

The constitution says that AMERICANS have a right to privacy, free from interference from govt . What a woman does to her body has nothing to do with govco.

So, what you must then assume is that if someone murders another, the constitution protects their right to privacy because it was between them and their victim, and the government has no business interfering with them keeping their murder private?

No, your right to privacy disappears once your actions affect someone else.

So now that the right to an abortion is no longer protected by the constitution in America and the states can decide what restrictions they wish, what do you think can be done to change the constitution back to create a new right to abortion like in 1973 when there was no right to abortion like today?

The states are breeching the constitution by denying women their right to privacy. Roe v wade was never about a right to 'abortion ' that was a consequence of what happened after the supreme Court ruled women's privacy was protected under the constitution

So what do you suggest? The federal government, and congress cant wave a magic wand to give abortions back to women. Whats your remedy?

Get rid of the stooges Trump put in the supreme Court

Thats never going to happen. They will be justices to the supreme court for life. The next few decades at least, so realistically what do you propose the remedy should be?

That's for the yanks to work out. Personally I think the US is stuffed.

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Reply #62 - Dec 28^th, 2023 at 12:20pm

Frank wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 9:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 8:05pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 7:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 5:27pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 12:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 10:59am:

Frank wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 10:10am:

The States have their own democratically elected parliaments and governments which make laws that reflect the will of the people in each state.

The states are still bound by the constitution

So they are. And?

The constitution says that AMERICANS have a right to privacy, free from interference from govt . What a woman does to her body has nothing to do with govco.

Roe v Wade or its overturning was not about what a woman does to her own body.
It is about what the state does or does not, or facilitates or not, to be done to her body BY OTHERS.

Sure it was. They ignored the woman's constitutional right to privacy free from govt. Interference and pretended it was about the states. Roe v wade wasn't ever the right to abort, it was the right of women to do what they wanted to with their bodies without govt interference. That's why the whole argument about how old a foetus has to be before it becomes a living entity became important. Once it becomes a living entity govt then has a right to interfere becauseits thenno longerjustaboutthewoman.

The supreme Court had it right the first time.

A woman can do whatever she wants.
The law is about what the state can and cannot do in response.

You have the right to privacy and chop off your own arm or perform a DIY abortion on yourself.
But you do not have the right to request that somebody else perform an abortion for you or chop off your arm without the law having a look-in.

The whole brouhaha is about who makes such a law - elected representatives or unelected judges. You can jump off a cliff but the law will be involved if someone else pushes you off that cliff. The law is involved. The point is - who can make the law.

It's not complicated. Well, maybe it is for you, militantly thick buggers.

We're just having a chuckle over the whole idea of you trying ever so hard to back a stance you don't give a hoot about, old chap. The point is who can make the law, eh?

I say, dear boy, that's deep. You must have been burning the midnight oil weighing this deeply held ethical conviction up, no?

Did you find it in a Christmas cracker?

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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5477 Gender:	Re: The Retarded Right and aftereffects of Roe V Wade Reply #63 - Dec 28^th, 2023 at 12:43pm americans must be retarded if they havent realised they can just take a bus to another state to get an abortion if they live in the relatively few number of states that have restricted the practice partially or in total what a trivial thing to care about lol
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Reply #64 - Dec 28^th, 2023 at 3:54pm

JC Denton wrote on Dec 28^th, 2023 at 12:43pm:

americans must be retarded if they havent realised they can just take a bus to another state to get an abortion if they live in the relatively few number of states that have restricted the practice partially or in total

what a trivial thing to care about lol

But it isnt Americans in this forum. This forum consists of mostly all Australians. They are the ignorant whingers here not Americans.

Thanks for being the first one smart enough to figure out the very best remedy to overcome local state legislated abortion restrictions.

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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5477 Gender:	Re: The Retarded Right and aftereffects of Roe V Wade Reply #65 - Dec 28^th, 2023 at 3:58pm most of the states havent even restricted it that much this decision largely just resulted in some state legislatures making their abortion rules more like those of other western countries
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Reply #66 - Dec 28^th, 2023 at 5:36pm

JC Denton wrote on Dec 28^th, 2023 at 12:43pm:

americans must be retarded if they havent realised they can just take a bus to another state to get an abortion if they live in the relatively few number of states that have restricted the practice partially or in total

what a trivial thing to care about lol

If they live in the...

You don't care either, JC. Abortion bores you ever so.

You don't mind fighting for the right to ban it too. You have your orders, no?

Yawn.

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Reply #67 - Dec 28^th, 2023 at 5:54pm

Tap wrote on Dec 28^th, 2023 at 3:54pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 28^th, 2023 at 12:43pm:

americans must be retarded if they havent realised they can just take a bus to another state to get an abortion if they live in the relatively few number of states that have restricted the practice partially or in total

what a trivial thing to care about lol

But it isnt Americans in this forum. This forum consists of mostly all Australians. They are the ignorant whingers here not Americans.

Thanks for being the first one smart enough to figure out the very best remedy to overcome local state legislated abortion restrictions.

He doesn't, Tap. There's no logic, dear. One either agrees with the state's right to ban abortion, or one doesn't. There is no in between.

If you'll excuse me, this yeah-but-no-but krap is most slippery and mendacious, but do you know?

I'd say ah if they either supported or opposed abortion. I'd say right to life? Right to choice?

Good show. That's a position. It shows you have a backbone.

These knuckleheads support the abortion laws we have in Australia. Here they are saying yeah-but about the Septics.

Oh, but the states should legalize it. That's honourable, ya?

The states should legalise something that was perfectly legal until the Supreme Court went and shot Dear Leader in the foot?

Next they'll be arguing we need to build a big white wall through the centre of Australia. Why?

Oh, I don't know, why not?

It's not politics, dear, it's fashion. It's wearing what you're told.

Welcome to America.

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Re: The Retarded Right and aftereffects of Roe V Wade
Reply #68 - Dec 28^th, 2023 at 8:02pm

JC Denton wrote on Dec 28^th, 2023 at 12:43pm:

americans must be retarded if they havent realised they can just take a bus to another state to get an abortion if they live in the relatively few number of states that have restricted the practice partially or in total

what a trivial thing to care about lol

You a simpleton?

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Reply #69 - Dec 28^th, 2023 at 8:07pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 28^th, 2023 at 5:36pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 28^th, 2023 at 12:43pm:

americans must be retarded if they havent realised they can just take a bus to another state to get an abortion if they live in the relatively few number of states that have restricted the practice partially or in total

what a trivial thing to care about lol

If they live in the...

You don't care either, JC. Abortion bores you ever so.

You don't mind fighting for the right to ban it too. You have your orders, no?

Yawn.

no i would rather it be as liberal as possible, why would you want more speds and n1ggers around?

that being said i'm not pro-choice either; i'm pro-abortion

the court's decision in the matter didn't seem that unreasonable though? i thought even that now deceased old bag justice even said so

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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2813 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: The Retarded Right and aftereffects of Roe V Wade Reply #70 - Dec 28^th, 2023 at 9:25pm I’m pro Retrospective Abortion.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 52821 Gender:	Re: The Retarded Right and aftereffects of Roe V Wade Reply #71 - Dec 28^th, 2023 at 10:17pm As a male. I stay out of the Abortion debate altogether. It a Woman's Issue. ...now where did that Women's Issue Board go to?
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Reply #72 - Dec 28^th, 2023 at 11:27pm

JC Denton wrote on Dec 28^th, 2023 at 8:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 28^th, 2023 at 5:36pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 28^th, 2023 at 12:43pm:

americans must be retarded if they havent realised they can just take a bus to another state to get an abortion if they live in the relatively few number of states that have restricted the practice partially or in total

what a trivial thing to care about lol

If they live in the...

You don't care either, JC. Abortion bores you ever so.

You don't mind fighting for the right to ban it too. You have your orders, no?

Yawn.

no i would rather it be as liberal as possible, why would you want more speds and n1ggers around?

that being said i'm not pro-choice either; i'm pro-abortion

Ah.

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Reply #73 - Dec 28^th, 2023 at 11:30pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 28^th, 2023 at 9:25pm:

I’m pro Retrospective Abortion.

Oh, you're one too, are you? You want abortion fleshed out all yeah-but-no-but, you can't remember what.

Ask the old boy. He's just as pro-abortion as you are, dear.

And every time he fires that culture wars water pistol of his, it hits him in the face too.

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Reply #74 - Dec 29^th, 2023 at 4:02am

John Smith wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 12:30pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 11:15am:

You have just said that the decision in Roe-v-Wade was and is lawful.

He was wrong

Nope. I wasn't wrong on this point.

Are you claiming that a ruling—any ruling?—ratified by
the SCOTUS can be unlawful? Please clarify.

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