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The Retarded Right and aftereffects of Roe V Wade (Read 1338 times)
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Re: The Retarded Right and aftereffects of Roe V Wade
Reply #15 - Dec 21st, 2023 at 10:11pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 9:26pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 8:10pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 7:53pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:42pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 12:56pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 12:08pm:
Were they wrong and if so, why?



women have a right to seek medical treatment

What on earth has that got to do with Roe versus Wade?


If you can't figure that out you should stay out of such topics.

Cheesy Cheesy
Well, you can't, thick as mince, but you bandy the notion about.

The ONLY thing the SCOTUS said in their recent judgement in the issue is that constitutionally, in a country that is made up of separate but united states, abortion is a matter for each of these states to legislate as THEY are the democratically constituted and elected authority to make such laws, NOT the the unelected SCOTUS to make laws for all of them.


That's all it said. Each state can legislate whatever its people can bear or want. Abortion law is for ELECETED representatives of the people to make, NOT for unelected SCOTUS judges far removed from and unanswerable to the people.




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Dobbs v. Jackson


Probably the most corrupt supreme court decision ever. The decision that they all committed to not making at their confirmation hearings. They lied. Most of them called it settled law or a super president.

There is currently no point in quoting SCOTUS, they are reliably corrupt.


You stupid fowl. When SCOTUS rules your way it's the undisputable final font of all wisdom. When not, it's corrupt.

You lefty mongs are totally unprincipled little girls permanently going through puberty. Hormones running wildly amok.

And you call yourselves men!!!



You wankers are, well, wankers.
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Reply #16 - Dec 21st, 2023 at 10:12pm
 
the foul fowl lol

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Reply #17 - Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:59am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 10:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 9:21pm:
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The ONLY thing the SCOTUS said in their recent judgement in the issue is that constitutionally, in a country that is made up of separate but united states, abortion is a matter for each of these states to legislate as THEY are the democratically constituted and elected authority to make such laws, NOT the the unelected SCOTUS to make laws for all of them.



Nothing to do with roe v wade ehh buffoon? When was the last time a woman risked jail for a miscarriage before the rethuglicans took the USA back to the stone age? Cheesy

The case you mention is not about jail for miscarriage, eyewateringly stupid, thick ****.



No, it was because doctors couldn't treat her properly for fear of repercussions from right wing nutjobs like you, so she got desperate.
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Reply #18 - Dec 22nd, 2023 at 8:35am
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:59am:
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 10:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 9:21pm:
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The ONLY thing the SCOTUS said in their recent judgement in the issue is that constitutionally, in a country that is made up of separate but united states, abortion is a matter for each of these states to legislate as THEY are the democratically constituted and elected authority to make such laws, NOT the the unelected SCOTUS to make laws for all of them.



Nothing to do with roe v wade ehh buffoon? When was the last time a woman risked jail for a miscarriage before the rethuglicans took the USA back to the stone age? Cheesy

The case you mention is not about jail for miscarriage, eyewateringly stupid, thick ****.



No, it was because doctors couldn't treat her properly for fear of repercussions from right wing nutjobs like you, so she got desperate.


Now now, JS, the old boy is a free thinker. He takes the issues one by one, on their merit. No groupthink for him, oh no.

Unlike these retarded Americans, he has no problems with disposing of miscarried foetuses.  He'll agree with exactly what you said, you'll see.

Intelligence and integrity, innit.
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Reply #19 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 7:45am
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:59am:
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 10:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 9:21pm:
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The ONLY thing the SCOTUS said in their recent judgement in the issue is that constitutionally, in a country that is made up of separate but united states, abortion is a matter for each of these states to legislate as THEY are the democratically constituted and elected authority to make such laws, NOT the the unelected SCOTUS to make laws for all of them.



Nothing to do with roe v wade ehh buffoon? When was the last time a woman risked jail for a miscarriage before the rethuglicans took the USA back to the stone age? Cheesy

The case you mention is not about jail for miscarriage, eyewateringly stupid, thick ****.



No, it was because doctors couldn't treat her properly for fear of repercussions from right wing nutjobs like you, so she got desperate.



From your op, thicko:

Quote:
investigated by police, led to the charge of abuse of a corpse, a felony punishable by up to a year in prison and a $US2,500 ($3,731)  fine.


The hospital staff was not charged for dithering and being unsure. Nobody was charged for unlawful abortion.



Leaving a 22 week old fetus in a bucket in a backyard would have attracted the same charge of abuse ofa corpse even before RvW was overturned by the SCOTUS and abortion law jurisdiction devolved back to the states.
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Reply #20 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 2:49pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 7:45am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:59am:
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 10:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 9:21pm:
Quote:
The ONLY thing the SCOTUS said in their recent judgement in the issue is that constitutionally, in a country that is made up of separate but united states, abortion is a matter for each of these states to legislate as THEY are the democratically constituted and elected authority to make such laws, NOT the the unelected SCOTUS to make laws for all of them.



Nothing to do with roe v wade ehh buffoon? When was the last time a woman risked jail for a miscarriage before the rethuglicans took the USA back to the stone age? Cheesy

The case you mention is not about jail for miscarriage, eyewateringly stupid, thick ****.



No, it was because doctors couldn't treat her properly for fear of repercussions from right wing nutjobs like you, so she got desperate.



From your op, thicko:

Quote:
investigated by police, led to the charge of abuse of a corpse, a felony punishable by up to a year in prison and a $US2,500 ($3,731)  fine.


The hospital staff was not charged for dithering and being unsure. Nobody was charged for unlawful abortion.



Leaving a 22 week old fetus in a bucket in a backyard would have attracted the same charge of abuse ofa corpse even before RvW was overturned by the SCOTUS and abortion law jurisdiction devolved back to the states.


You're as dumb as dogsh it, if she's been able to get proper treatment at hospital she wouldn't have had to resort to trying to flush it down the toilet. Doctors wouldn't remove the dead featus for fear of prosecution from the retarded right. 
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Reply #21 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 3:02pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 2:49pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 7:45am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:59am:
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 10:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 9:21pm:
Quote:
The ONLY thing the SCOTUS said in their recent judgement in the issue is that constitutionally, in a country that is made up of separate but united states, abortion is a matter for each of these states to legislate as THEY are the democratically constituted and elected authority to make such laws, NOT the the unelected SCOTUS to make laws for all of them.



Nothing to do with roe v wade ehh buffoon? When was the last time a woman risked jail for a miscarriage before the rethuglicans took the USA back to the stone age? Cheesy

The case you mention is not about jail for miscarriage, eyewateringly stupid, thick ****.



No, it was because doctors couldn't treat her properly for fear of repercussions from right wing nutjobs like you, so she got desperate.



From your op, thicko:

Quote:
investigated by police, led to the charge of abuse of a corpse, a felony punishable by up to a year in prison and a $US2,500 ($3,731)  fine.


The hospital staff was not charged for dithering and being unsure. Nobody was charged for unlawful abortion.



Leaving a 22 week old fetus in a bucket in a backyard would have attracted the same charge of abuse ofa corpse even before RvW was overturned by the SCOTUS and abortion law jurisdiction devolved back to the states.


You're as dumb as dogsh it, if she's been able to get proper treatment at hospital she wouldn't have had to resort to trying to flush it down the toilet. Doctors wouldn't remove the dead featus for fear of prosecution from the retarded right. 


She didn't try to flush it down the toilet, malicious thicko. Would have been impossible.
She left the corpse in a bucket in the backyard. That is reason for the charge of abuse of a corpse, a felony punishable by up to a year in prison and a $US2,500 ($3,731)  fine.


This is a baby delivered at 22 weeks.
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Reply #22 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 3:40pm
 

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She didn't try to flush it down the toilet, malicious thicko. Would have been impossible



You can't read English can you? They shouldn't allow dumb cartns who don't understand English into this country.  From the OP


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Police would later find the foetus wedged in the pipes.

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Reply #23 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 4:09pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 3:40pm:
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She didn't try to flush it down the toilet, malicious thicko. Would have been impossible



You can't read English can you? They shouldn't allow dumb cartns who don't understand English into this country.  From the OP


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Police would later find the foetus wedged in the pipes.




So it WAS impossible to flush it down the toilet, you miserable, malignant thicko.



Watts was in her bathroom when she delivered a roughly 15-ounce fetus over the toilet. At the time, she said, she “didn’t know that at 5:48 a.m. [her] life would change forever.” The delivery left a mess of blood, stool, tissue and other bodily fluid, clogging the toilet. Watts scooped out what she believed was stopping the toilet and placed it outdoors, near the garage, cleaned the bathroom and showered, records show.

To maintain appearances to her mother, whom she had not told about the pregnancy, Watts drove to a hair appointment, said Traci Timko, Watts’s attorney. The hairdresser noticed Watts’s pale face and immediately called her mother to take her to the hospital. It was Watts’s fourth pregnancy-related trip to the hospital that week.

When a hospital nurse asked Watts where the fetus was, Watts told her, and later the police, that the fetus was outdoors, near the garage; Watts added that she didn’t look inside the toilet to make sure. A hospital note written and signed by the nurse said, “Advised by risk management to contact Warren City Police to investigate the possibility of the infant being in a bucket at the patient’s residence.” The next record shows that the nurse called the police.

“I had a mother who had a delivery at home and came in without the baby and she says the baby’s in her backyard in a bucket,” the nurse said, according to a call recording obtained by The Post. “I need to have someone go find this baby, or direct me on what I need to do.”
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Warren Assistant Prosecutor Lewis Guarnieri, who did not respond to The Post’s requests for comment, said in court that the case is about what happened after the miscarriage.

“The issue isn’t how the child died, when the child died — it’s the fact that the baby was put into a toilet, large enough to clog up a toilet, left in that toilet, and she went on [with] her day,” he said.





Nothing whatsoever to do with RvW. Women miscarry at home, and it is terrible and life changing.

But they don't try to flush a fully recognisable as human, 22 week old fetus down the toilet and then go to the freaking hairdresser - and the blame the supreme court for it like you or the ABC and all the right-on bozos.


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Reply #24 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 4:29pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 7:45am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:59am:
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 10:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 9:21pm:
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The ONLY thing the SCOTUS said in their recent judgement in the issue is that constitutionally, in a country that is made up of separate but united states, abortion is a matter for each of these states to legislate as THEY are the democratically constituted and elected authority to make such laws, NOT the the unelected SCOTUS to make laws for all of them.



Nothing to do with roe v wade ehh buffoon? When was the last time a woman risked jail for a miscarriage before the rethuglicans took the USA back to the stone age? Cheesy

The case you mention is not about jail for miscarriage, eyewateringly stupid, thick ****.



No, it was because doctors couldn't treat her properly for fear of repercussions from right wing nutjobs like you, so she got desperate.



From your op, thicko:

Quote:
investigated by police, led to the charge of abuse of a corpse, a felony punishable by up to a year in prison and a $US2,500 ($3,731)  fine.


The hospital staff was not charged for dithering and being unsure. Nobody was charged for unlawful abortion.



Leaving a 22 week old fetus in a bucket in a backyard would have attracted the same charge of abuse ofa corpse even before RvW was overturned by the SCOTUS and abortion law jurisdiction devolved back to the states.


For somebody who actually supports the right to abortion under certain conditions, Fwank's tapdancing his poor old heart away defending this one.

It's a tough job sticking up for Bible Belt laws like this one, but somebody's gotta do it, no?

After all, if you don't have a dream, you've gotta have a dream, then how are you going to make-a your dream come true?

No mindless groupthink here, leftards. Fwank no-speaka.

Happy talkie talkie, innit.
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Reply #25 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 4:38pm
 
Karnal wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 4:29pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 7:45am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:59am:
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 10:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 9:21pm:
Quote:
The ONLY thing the SCOTUS said in their recent judgement in the issue is that constitutionally, in a country that is made up of separate but united states, abortion is a matter for each of these states to legislate as THEY are the democratically constituted and elected authority to make such laws, NOT the the unelected SCOTUS to make laws for all of them.



Nothing to do with roe v wade ehh buffoon? When was the last time a woman risked jail for a miscarriage before the rethuglicans took the USA back to the stone age? Cheesy

The case you mention is not about jail for miscarriage, eyewateringly stupid, thick ****.



No, it was because doctors couldn't treat her properly for fear of repercussions from right wing nutjobs like you, so she got desperate.



From your op, thicko:

Quote:
investigated by police, led to the charge of abuse of a corpse, a felony punishable by up to a year in prison and a $US2,500 ($3,731)  fine.


The hospital staff was not charged for dithering and being unsure. Nobody was charged for unlawful abortion.



Leaving a 22 week old fetus in a bucket in a backyard would have attracted the same charge of abuse ofa corpse even before RvW was overturned by the SCOTUS and abortion law jurisdiction devolved back to the states.


For somebody who actually supports the right to abortion under certain conditions, Fwank's tapdancing his poor old heart away defending this one.

It's a tough job sticking up for Bible Belt laws like this one, but somebody's gotta do it, no?

After all, if you don't have a dream, you've gotta have a dream, then how are you going to make-a your dream come true?

No mindless groupthink here, leftards. Fwank no-speaka.

Happy talkie talkie, innit. 

Grimacing Paki bollocks, as usual.

You don't put a 22 week old fetus in the toilet or a bucket and go to have your hair done.
Straightening it, no doubt.  At least she wasn't bleach blonding it, what?


That should have been too white.

Colonialism and white supremacy is at play here somewhere.  Must be.






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Reply #26 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 4:44pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 3:02pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 2:49pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 7:45am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:59am:
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 10:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 9:21pm:
Quote:
The ONLY thing the SCOTUS said in their recent judgement in the issue is that constitutionally, in a country that is made up of separate but united states, abortion is a matter for each of these states to legislate as THEY are the democratically constituted and elected authority to make such laws, NOT the the unelected SCOTUS to make laws for all of them.



Nothing to do with roe v wade ehh buffoon? When was the last time a woman risked jail for a miscarriage before the rethuglicans took the USA back to the stone age? Cheesy

The case you mention is not about jail for miscarriage, eyewateringly stupid, thick ****.



No, it was because doctors couldn't treat her properly for fear of repercussions from right wing nutjobs like you, so she got desperate.



From your op, thicko:

Quote:
investigated by police, led to the charge of abuse of a corpse, a felony punishable by up to a year in prison and a $US2,500 ($3,731)  fine.


The hospital staff was not charged for dithering and being unsure. Nobody was charged for unlawful abortion.



Leaving a 22 week old fetus in a bucket in a backyard would have attracted the same charge of abuse ofa corpse even before RvW was overturned by the SCOTUS and abortion law jurisdiction devolved back to the states.


You're as dumb as dogsh it, if she's been able to get proper treatment at hospital she wouldn't have had to resort to trying to flush it down the toilet. Doctors wouldn't remove the dead featus for fear of prosecution from the retarded right. 


She didn't try to flush it down the toilet, malicious thicko. Would have been impossible.
She left the corpse in a bucket in the backyard. That is reason for the charge of abuse of a corpse, a felony punishable by up to a year in prison and a $US2,500 ($3,731)  fine.


Our ABC begs to differ, dear boy.

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Pregnant women like Ms Watts, who was not even trying to get an abortion, have increasingly found themselves charged with "crimes against their own pregnancies", said Grace Howard, assistant justice studies professor at San José State University.

"Roe was a clear legal roadblock to charging felonies for unintentionally harming pregnancies, when women were legally allowed to end their pregnancies through abortion," she said.

"Now that Roe is gone, that roadblock is entirely gone."

Lawyer says black women are targets in 'wild west'
Michele Goodwin, a law professor at the University of California said those efforts have overwhelmingly targetted black women.


Even before Roe was overturned, studies show that black women who visited hospitals for prenatal care were 10 times more likely than white women to have child protective services and law enforcement called on them, even when their cases were similar, she said.

"Post-Dobbs, what we see is kind of a wild, wild west," Ms Goodwin said.

"You see this kind of muscle-flexing by district attorneys and prosecutors wanting to show that they are going to be vigilant, they're going to take down women who violate the ethos coming out of the state's legislature."


You guessed it, she's tinted.
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Reply #27 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 4:52pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 4:38pm:
Karnal wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 4:29pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 7:45am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:59am:
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 10:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 9:21pm:
Quote:
The ONLY thing the SCOTUS said in their recent judgement in the issue is that constitutionally, in a country that is made up of separate but united states, abortion is a matter for each of these states to legislate as THEY are the democratically constituted and elected authority to make such laws, NOT the the unelected SCOTUS to make laws for all of them.



Nothing to do with roe v wade ehh buffoon? When was the last time a woman risked jail for a miscarriage before the rethuglicans took the USA back to the stone age? Cheesy

The case you mention is not about jail for miscarriage, eyewateringly stupid, thick ****.



No, it was because doctors couldn't treat her properly for fear of repercussions from right wing nutjobs like you, so she got desperate.



From your op, thicko:

Quote:
investigated by police, led to the charge of abuse of a corpse, a felony punishable by up to a year in prison and a $US2,500 ($3,731)  fine.


The hospital staff was not charged for dithering and being unsure. Nobody was charged for unlawful abortion.



Leaving a 22 week old fetus in a bucket in a backyard would have attracted the same charge of abuse ofa corpse even before RvW was overturned by the SCOTUS and abortion law jurisdiction devolved back to the states.


For somebody who actually supports the right to abortion under certain conditions, Fwank's tapdancing his poor old heart away defending this one.

It's a tough job sticking up for Bible Belt laws like this one, but somebody's gotta do it, no?

After all, if you don't have a dream, you've gotta have a dream, then how are you going to make-a your dream come true?

No mindless groupthink here, leftards. Fwank no-speaka.

Happy talkie talkie, innit. 

Grimacing Paki bollocks, as usual.

You don't put a 22 week old fetus in the toilet or a bucket and go to have your hair done.
Straightening it, no doubt.  At least she wasn't bleach blonding it, what?


That should have been too white.

Colonialism and white supremacy is at play here somewhere.  Must be.








Just so. It's why you want a woman who had a miscarriage to cop a year in jail.

After she had her hair straightened, no less 

You're not sure what you find worse, old chap, the tintedness or the hair bleaching.

Still, the Superior Man doesn't notice skin colour, old boy. It means as much to him as eye or hair colour, what.

You never noticed, no?
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Reply #28 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 5:16pm
 
Karnal wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 4:52pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 4:38pm:
Karnal wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 4:29pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 7:45am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:59am:
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 10:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 9:21pm:
Quote:
The ONLY thing the SCOTUS said in their recent judgement in the issue is that constitutionally, in a country that is made up of separate but united states, abortion is a matter for each of these states to legislate as THEY are the democratically constituted and elected authority to make such laws, NOT the the unelected SCOTUS to make laws for all of them.



Nothing to do with roe v wade ehh buffoon? When was the last time a woman risked jail for a miscarriage before the rethuglicans took the USA back to the stone age? Cheesy

The case you mention is not about jail for miscarriage, eyewateringly stupid, thick ****.



No, it was because doctors couldn't treat her properly for fear of repercussions from right wing nutjobs like you, so she got desperate.



From your op, thicko:

Quote:
investigated by police, led to the charge of abuse of a corpse, a felony punishable by up to a year in prison and a $US2,500 ($3,731)  fine.


The hospital staff was not charged for dithering and being unsure. Nobody was charged for unlawful abortion.



Leaving a 22 week old fetus in a bucket in a backyard would have attracted the same charge of abuse ofa corpse even before RvW was overturned by the SCOTUS and abortion law jurisdiction devolved back to the states.


For somebody who actually supports the right to abortion under certain conditions, Fwank's tapdancing his poor old heart away defending this one.

It's a tough job sticking up for Bible Belt laws like this one, but somebody's gotta do it, no?

After all, if you don't have a dream, you've gotta have a dream, then how are you going to make-a your dream come true?

No mindless groupthink here, leftards. Fwank no-speaka.

Happy talkie talkie, innit. 

Grimacing Paki bollocks, as usual.

You don't put a 22 week old fetus in the toilet or a bucket and go to have your hair done.
Straightening it, no doubt.  At least she wasn't bleach blonding it, what?


That should have been too white.

Colonialism and white supremacy is at play here somewhere.  Must be.








Just so. It's why you want a woman who had a miscarriage to cop a year in jail.

After she had her hair straightened, no less 

You're not sure what you find worse, old chap, the tintedness or the hair bleaching.

Still, the Superior Man doesn't notice skin colour, old boy. It means as much to him as eye or hair colour, what.

You never noticed, no?


You are very careful to tapdance around the actual issue, grimacing wee paki arse bandit. But then that is your allocated function.

You don't put a 22 week old fetus in the toilet or a bucket and go to have your hair done.


Speak to that, paki.  There's a couple of bananas in it for you.



This is a baby delivered at 22 weeks.
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Reply #29 - Dec 24th, 2023 at 7:33pm
 
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So it WAS impossible to flush it down the toilet, you miserable, malignant thicko.


I didn't said whether it was or wasn't possible you dumbarse.  I merely said she tried. That police found the foetus wedged in the pipes confirms that she tried. It also confirms that you don't understand English and that you're a complete moron.
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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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