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Reply #15 - Dec 15th, 2023 at 10:20am
 
so you are saying

"believe the science" and your backing that up with a spoof professor  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

and you have the hide to criticise dr john gerrard


Dr John Gerrard, Chief Health Officer
BSc (Med) MB BS (Syd) MSc (Microbiology) DLSHTM DTM&H (Lon) FRACP

Dr Gerrard was appointed Chief Health Officer for Queensland Health in December 2021. He was the long-term Director of Infectious Diseases at the Gold Coast Hospital, where he was instrumental in the design the Gold Coast University Hospital, which has been at the front line of Queensland’s COVID-19 response.

A leading infectious disease specialist, Dr Gerrard identified Australia’s earliest known case of AIDS early in his career. He has since been involved in malaria vaccine trials and has worked internationally to strengthen pandemic preparedness, including travel to Sierra Leone during the 2014 West African Ebola epidemic, where he helped establish Australia’s first Ebola Treatment Centre. He was awarded the Australian Humanitarian Overseas Service Medal for this work.
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Reply #16 - Dec 15th, 2023 at 10:37am
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 15th, 2023 at 10:20am:
so you are saying

"believe the science" and your backing that up with a spoof professor  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


No, I'm not saying that at all. And I'm not backing up "believe the science" with a "spoof professor".

I was merely having a good laugh at your expense because... well, you're so gullible and although it didn't work in the way I was expecting you still provided me with a good laugh anyway (at least you never disappoint in that respect).

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and you have the hide to criticise dr john gerrard


Dr John Gerrard, Chief Health Officer
BSc (Med) MB BS (Syd) MSc (Microbiology) DLSHTM DTM&H (Lon) FRACP

Dr Gerrard was appointed Chief Health Officer for Queensland Health in December 2021. He was the long-term Director of Infectious Diseases at the Gold Coast Hospital, where he was instrumental in the design the Gold Coast University Hospital, which has been at the front line of Queensland’s COVID-19 response.

A leading infectious disease specialist, Dr Gerrard identified Australia’s earliest known case of AIDS early in his career. He has since been involved in malaria vaccine trials and has worked internationally to strengthen pandemic preparedness, including travel to Sierra Leone during the 2014 West African Ebola epidemic, where he helped establish Australia’s first Ebola Treatment Centre. He was awarded the Australian Humanitarian Overseas Service Medal for this work.


Now, if Dr. John "Dr. Death"/"Lex Luthor" Gerrard had a Twitter account I would definitely be inclined to call that a parody.

Unfortunately, it's a parody that has been responsible for the deaths of nearly 3,000 Queenslanders (so far) with his failed hybrid immunity "experiment".

Why hasn't he been sacked yet?
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** Repeat Covid infections exercise our immune system in the same way that repeat concussions exercise our brain **
 
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Reply #17 - Dec 19th, 2023 at 6:09pm
 
Psst... hey, aquascoot.

I went to see my GP today for regular blood tests and a checkup and while I was there I told him that for the past couple of weeks I've been having some minor breathing issues... kind of a 'wheezing' effect with a bit of coughing, usually first thing in the morning.

After checking my breathing he said everything seems pretty OK at the moment but we both came to the same conclusion... it is probably caused by Covid after I caught it for the first time 3 months ago and it's just started to show up now.

And that was after I've had 5 Covid vaccinations.

So, if I'm out and about shopping with my KN95 mask on and someone comes up to me and asks me why I'm still wearing a mask they'd better watch out from now on.

"mild respiratory virus" and "just a cold" my @ss. I've never had anything like this happen before, even after bad cases of the flu.

But don't worry... I've doubled my efforts to ensure I don't catch Covid again because I certainly don't want it to disable me to the point where I can't post here anymore... after all, someone has to be here to respond to your stupid posts (yes, I know it's a thankless 'job').

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Reply #18 - Mar 23rd, 2024 at 1:18pm
 
There is no such thing as long Covid, say health officials
Doctors in Queensland say the condition is no different to any post-viral syndrome


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/15/doctors-no-such-thing-as-long-covid/
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Reply #19 - Mar 23rd, 2024 at 6:21pm
 
yep

just people who want a label (presumably with centrelink benefits like a disability pension) so they can get around in their pyjamas all day.


oh i'm so tired
i'm so weak

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please send me some money for my netflix and uber eats  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #20 - Mar 23rd, 2024 at 6:31pm
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 19th, 2023 at 6:09pm:
Psst... hey, aquascoot.

I went to see my GP today for regular blood tests and a checkup and while I was there I told him that for the past couple of weeks I've been having some minor breathing issues... kind of a 'wheezing' effect with a bit of coughing, usually first thing in the morning.

After checking my breathing he said everything seems pretty OK at the moment but we both came to the same conclusion... it is probably caused by Covid after I caught it for the first time 3 months ago and it's just started to show up now.

And that was after I've had 5 Covid vaccinations.

So, if I'm out and about shopping with my KN95 mask on and someone comes up to me and asks me why I'm still wearing a mask they'd better watch out from now on.

"mild respiratory virus" and "just a cold" my @ss. I've never had anything like this happen before, even after bad cases of the flu.

But don't worry... I've doubled my efforts to ensure I don't catch Covid again because I certainly don't want it to disable me to the point where I can't post here anymore... after all, someone has to be here to respond to your stupid posts (yes, I know it's a thankless 'job').

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........... "mild respiratory virus" and "just a cold" my @ss. I've never had anything like this happen before, even after bad cases of the flu.       ............


Yes, I had been vaccinated about 1 month before getting covid, so it was about perfect timing. I was in perfect health.
I sweated and had a high temp for 4 days, I cancelled my entire calendar for 2 weeks.
Feeling ok now, 5 weeks after.
One of my brothers got it, unvaccinated, he thought he was going to die.
Another brother was unvaccinated, he sounded dreadful 8 weeks after it - like an extremely dangerous cold.
This is serious. Be very easy on yourself if you get it.


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Re: Long Covid
Reply #21 - Mar 24th, 2024 at 9:59am
 
Due to continuing government inaction and their ignoring of Long Covid (and Covid itself) people have started to take matters into their own hands in an attempt to inform the population.

Pandemic Resistance Inc. Billboards

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We're planning a massive public messaging campaign with billboards across Australia.


The same thing has also been done in the UK.

Long Covid patients slam the UK Medical Research Council’s lack of response to billboard campaign

About time too. One billboard was seen here in Perth last week - see attached picture.
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Reply #22 - Mar 24th, 2024 at 4:32pm
 
carl d is one of those rare freaks who are still obsessed with and live their life in fear of covid
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Reply #23 - Mar 24th, 2024 at 5:04pm
 
Carl D wrote on Mar 24th, 2024 at 9:59am:
Due to continuing government inaction and their ignoring of Long Covid (and Covid itself) people have started to take matters into their own hands in an attempt to inform the population.

Pandemic Resistance Inc. Billboards

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We're planning a massive public messaging campaign with billboards across Australia.


The same thing has also been done in the UK.

Long Covid patients slam the UK Medical Research Council’s lack of response to billboard campaign

About time too. One billboard was seen here in Perth last week - see attached picture.



hi there carl,

we already have a diagnosis for people with "over 200 symptoms"

we call them "hypochondriacs"
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Reply #24 - Mar 24th, 2024 at 5:57pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 23rd, 2024 at 1:18pm:
There is no such thing as long Covid, say health officials
Doctors in Queensland say the condition is no different to any post-viral syndrome...

Professor Philip Britton, a paediatric infectious diseases physician
from the University of Sydney and a member of the Long Covid
Australia Collaboration, welcomed the study given the lack of published
research from Australia in this area.

However, Britton said the conclusion that it was time to stop using terms
such as long COVID was "overstated and potentially unhelpful. Long
COVID has been a global phenomenon, recognised by WHO
".

Professor Jeremy Nicholson, the director of the Australian National
Phenome Centre at Murdoch University, said the question of whether
long COVID is unique "cannot be simply answered in this work".

"The study is observational, based on reported symptoms with no
physiological or detailed functional follow-up data
. Without laboratory
pathophysiological assessment of individual patients, it is impossible to
say that this is indistinguishable from flu-related or any other post-viral
syndrome
",  Nicholson said.

—The Guardian Australia, 15 March 2024.


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Reply #25 - Mar 24th, 2024 at 6:39pm
 
JC Denton wrote on Mar 24th, 2024 at 4:32pm:
carl d is one of those rare freaks who are still obsessed with and live their life in fear of covid

LOL...

Not so at all.  Carl (and me) both carry out our due diligence with
regard to COVID and its vaccines, and so-called "long COVID".

Far too many people here simply don't do that, and rely on silly
3rd-party memes, or conspiracy theorists such as Pierre Kory,
David Icke, Sean Hannity, Peter McCullough, Sherri Tenpenny,
John Campbell, Alex Jones, Mike Adams, Andrew Wakefield,
and numerous other quacks.

To denounce people who keep up to date and well-informed about
any viral epidemic that's already killed more than 7 million people
is the height of *ignorance, and a true example of a "head in the
sand" attitude.   How sad.  What are they afraid of?   The truth?

   (*Particularly as Australia has recorded
   388 new cases in the past seven days.)

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Reply #26 - Mar 24th, 2024 at 7:15pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Mar 24th, 2024 at 6:39pm:
JC Denton wrote on Mar 24th, 2024 at 4:32pm:
carl d is one of those rare freaks who are still obsessed with and live their life in fear of covid

LOL...

Not so at all.  Carl (and me) both carry out our due diligence with
regard to COVID and its vaccines, and so-called "long COVID".

Far too many people here simply don't do that, and rely on silly
3rd-party memes, or conspiracy theorists such as Pierre Kory,
David Icke, Sean Hannity, Peter McCullough, Sherri Tenpenny,
John Campbell, Alex Jones, Mike Adams, Andrew Wakefield,
and numerous other quacks.

To denounce people who keep up to date and well-informed about
any viral epidemic that's already killed more than 7 million people
is the height of *ignorance, and a true example of a "head in the
sand" attitude.   How sad.  What are they afraid of?   The truth?

   (*Particularly as Australia has recorded
   388 new cases in the past seven days.)



no hes a covid obsessive, the mirror image of the covid cookers youre describing

both are dying breeds but theyre the same sort of person that bend around on the same horseshoe

normal people do not think about covid in any way shape or form anymore, nor are they obsessively poring over excess mortality data trying to prove the vaccines are killing millions of people still somehow
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Reply #27 - Mar 24th, 2024 at 9:23pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Mar 24th, 2024 at 5:57pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 23rd, 2024 at 1:18pm:
There is no such thing as long Covid, say health officials
Doctors in Queensland say the condition is no different to any post-viral syndrome...

Professor Philip Britton, a paediatric infectious diseases physician
from the University of Sydney and a member of the Long Covid
Australia Collaboration, welcomed the study given the lack of published
research from Australia in this area.

However, Britton said the conclusion that it was time to stop using terms
such as long COVID was "overstated and potentially unhelpful. Long
COVID has been a global phenomenon, recognised by WHO
".

Professor Jeremy Nicholson, the director of the Australian National
Phenome Centre at Murdoch University, said the question of whether
long COVID is unique "cannot be simply answered in this work".

"The study is observational, based on reported symptoms with no
physiological or detailed functional follow-up data
. Without laboratory
pathophysiological assessment of individual patients, it is impossible to
say that this is indistinguishable from flu-related or any other post-viral
syndrome
",  Nicholson said.

—The Guardian Australia, 15 March 2024.





Suddenly the question is - which science to follow?
Suddenly, the science is not settled. It is unsettled.  Might this also apply to other aspects to science that have been declared 'settled'?




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Reply #28 - Mar 25th, 2024 at 12:10pm
 
i followed the science but it didnt lead anywhere

then i followed the money and it led me to the science
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Reply #29 - Mar 25th, 2024 at 4:04pm
 

"Long COVID may be nothing unique in the future—but its effects today are still very real."   
Epidemiologist Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz, MPh, PhD, 23 March 2024.

Long COVID is one of the most controversial topics remaining about the pandemic.
Depending on who you ask, it is either a real and current threat to the health of the
globe, or a relatively minor issue that we should pay little attention to in the future.
It is hard to weigh in on the topic without passionate advocates taking issue with
the things that you say, which is true of quite a lot of the conversations we have had
over the course of the pandemic.

   https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/23/long-covid-effects-study

The problem, however, is that a lot of people were infected in 2020 and
2021, before we had vaccines and treatments to reduce the severity
of the disease. There is no question that a large group of people are
still suffering serious problems from their initial COVID infection, many
of them years after first getting sick.

And herein lies the problem with long COVID discussions. There are two
separate conversations going on at the same time. We can talk about the
future, which seems a bit brighter—long COVID rates are down drastically,
and people who got infected with COVID are now about as likely to experience
serious, long-lasting issues as people who got influenza in 2019. But we
also have to acknowledge the large number of people seriously injured by
COVID in the early stages of the pandemic who may never recover their health.

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