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Gaza: genocide?
Dec 12^th, 2023 at 3:55pm

There are plenty of people who like to accuse the Jews of genocide. The facts simply do not support this claim. It is just more Jew-hating propaganda - an attempt to rebrand Nazism as woke by chanting idiotic slogans.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 10^th, 2023 at 4:22pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 10^th, 2023 at 4:14pm:

Jew-baiting is a crime in Australia... our Jews are part of the furniture.... been here for yonks...

What is "Jew baiting" ?

The topic of the day in the UN is the genocide in Gaza, and how to end it.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2023 at 7:46pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 18^th, 2023 at 4:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2023 at 3:32pm:

It's the first step in their genocide plan - "nip it in the bud".

The thing is, Israel hasn't nipped the Hamas threat in the bud - Hamas is a full-blown monster.
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Indeed.

Destroying Hamas is not easy.

Genocide is easier.

Thus, they've started murdering babies, women, and children.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 10:39pm:

I find murder and genocide abhorrent, maybe it's just me...

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 11:10am:

However, the IDF is also committing horrendous war crimes/genocide, and they need to be condemned as well.

Even the 'mainstream' media:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_genocide_accusation

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/11/12/genocide-in-gaza-a-call-for-urgent-global-action

https://unric.org/en/palestine-preventing-a-genocide-in-gaza-and-a-new-nakba/

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Re: Gaza: genocide?
Reply #1 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:00pm

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

There are plenty of people who like to accuse the Jews of genocide. The facts simply do not support this claim. It is just more Jew-hating propaganda - an attempt to rebrand Nazism as woke by chanting idiotic slogans.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 10^th, 2023 at 4:22pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 10^th, 2023 at 4:14pm:

Jew-baiting is a crime in Australia... our Jews are part of the furniture.... been here for yonks...

What is "Jew baiting" ?

The topic of the day in the UN is the genocide in Gaza, and how to end it.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2023 at 7:46pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 18^th, 2023 at 4:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2023 at 3:32pm:

It's the first step in their genocide plan - "nip it in the bud".

The thing is, Israel hasn't nipped the Hamas threat in the bud - Hamas is a full-blown monster.
...

Indeed.

Destroying Hamas is not easy.

Genocide is easier.

Thus, they've started murdering babies, women, and children.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 10:39pm:

I find murder and genocide abhorrent, maybe it's just me...

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 11:10am:

However, the IDF is also committing horrendous war crimes/genocide, and they need to be condemned as well.

Even the 'mainstream' media:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_genocide_accusation

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/11/12/genocide-in-gaza-a-call-for-urgent-global-action

https://unric.org/en/palestine-preventing-a-genocide-in-gaza-and-a-new-nakba/

Note: Mandate Palestine should never have been partitioned, just as British India should never have been partitioned.

There is a difference between ethnic cleansing via expulsion, and population reduction via genocide (by either side).

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52918 At my desk.	Re: Gaza: genocide? Reply #2 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:14pm Do you accuse the Jews of committing genocide?
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Re: Gaza: genocide?
Reply #3 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:16pm

Genocide doesn't necessarily mean killing every last person.

In fact, it doesn't have to involve killing at all.

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

The IDF is quite obviously committing genocide.

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Reply #4 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:27pm

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

There are plenty of people who like to accuse the Jews of genocide. The facts simply do not support this claim. It is just more Jew-hating propaganda - an attempt to rebrand Nazism as woke by chanting idiotic slogans.

Yes, those idiots say, it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.
Their reasoning? Well, in the mid-20th century it was ‘powerless Jews’ being killed by ‘one of the most powerful states and armies’ – the Nazis. This time round, we have a ‘very powerful state’ – Israel – being attacked by ‘Palestinians who for decades [have been] under Israeli settler-colonial rule’. So it’s a ‘very, very different context’.

This is one of the most morally vacuous statements I have heard in a very long time. It is proof, surely, of the mind rot that flows from the Western identitarian obsession with power relations. For the truth is that on 7 October it was ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by a ‘powerful army’. In that pogrom, that moment, unarmed Jews were completely overpowered by a racist militia. Anyone who has witnessed the summary execution of two teenage girls at the music festival, or the bombing to death of an unarmed dad trying to shield his two sons, or the shooting of an elderly Jew in his kitchen, will know that, once again, yes, ‘powerless Jews’ were murdered for being Jews. No, it was not the Holocaust. Hamas, mercifully, is incapable of carrying out such industrial levels of murder. But the idea that ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 2023 is entirely different to ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 1943 is a wilful delusion born of brains poisoned by wokeness.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/22/accusing-israel-of-genocide-is-despicab...

"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" IS the call for genocide, as heard in every western city, from Sydney, Melbourne to London and New York.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Gaza: genocide? Reply #5 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 5:42pm freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 3:55pm: There are plenty of people who like to accuse the Jews of genocide. and they would be correct
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Reply #7 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:21pm

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:27pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

There are plenty of people who like to accuse the Jews of genocide. The facts simply do not support this claim. It is just more Jew-hating propaganda - an attempt to rebrand Nazism as woke by chanting idiotic slogans.

Yes, those idiots say, it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.
Their reasoning? Well, in the mid-20th century it was ‘powerless Jews’ being killed by ‘one of the most powerful states and armies’ – the Nazis. This time round, we have a ‘very powerful state’ – Israel – being attacked by ‘Palestinians who for decades [have been] under Israeli settler-colonial rule’. So it’s a ‘very, very different context’.

This is one of the most morally vacuous statements I have heard in a very long time. It is proof, surely, of the mind rot that flows from the Western identitarian obsession with power relations. For the truth is that on 7 October it was ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by a ‘powerful army’. In that pogrom, that moment, unarmed Jews were completely overpowered by a racist militia. Anyone who has witnessed the summary execution of two teenage girls at the music festival, or the bombing to death of an unarmed dad trying to shield his two sons, or the shooting of an elderly Jew in his kitchen, will know that, once again, yes, ‘powerless Jews’ were murdered for being Jews. No, it was not the Holocaust. Hamas, mercifully, is incapable of carrying out such industrial levels of murder. But the idea that ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 2023 is entirely different to ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 1943 is a wilful delusion born of brains poisoned by wokeness.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/22/accusing-israel-of-genocide-is-despicab...

"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" IS the call for genocide, as heard in every western city, from Sydney, Melbourne to London and New York.

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it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.

No people have from the start said that it was ‘horrendous’ - unqualified.

Though it is correct that there is no association with the Holocaust no more than their holocaust like response in Palestine is related to the Holocaust. That's just silly.

The proper response it to be critical of all the atrocities no mater who is behind them.

Here we have 2 wrongs and 0 rights.

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Re: Gaza: genocide?
Reply #8 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:16pm:

Genocide doesn't necessarily mean killing every last person.

In fact, it doesn't have to involve killing at all.

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

The IDF is quite obviously committing genocide.

And so is a schoolyard bully.

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Re: Gaza: genocide?
Reply #9 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:37pm

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:16pm:

Genocide doesn't necessarily mean killing every last person.

In fact, it doesn't have to involve killing at all.

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

The IDF is quite obviously committing genocide.

And so is a schoolyard bully.

You think genocide is a laughing matter? Undecided

Oh dear.

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Reply #10 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:38pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:21pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:27pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

There are plenty of people who like to accuse the Jews of genocide. The facts simply do not support this claim. It is just more Jew-hating propaganda - an attempt to rebrand Nazism as woke by chanting idiotic slogans.

Yes, those idiots say, it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.
Their reasoning? Well, in the mid-20th century it was ‘powerless Jews’ being killed by ‘one of the most powerful states and armies’ – the Nazis. This time round, we have a ‘very powerful state’ – Israel – being attacked by ‘Palestinians who for decades [have been] under Israeli settler-colonial rule’. So it’s a ‘very, very different context’.

This is one of the most morally vacuous statements I have heard in a very long time. It is proof, surely, of the mind rot that flows from the Western identitarian obsession with power relations. For the truth is that on 7 October it was ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by a ‘powerful army’. In that pogrom, that moment, unarmed Jews were completely overpowered by a racist militia. Anyone who has witnessed the summary execution of two teenage girls at the music festival, or the bombing to death of an unarmed dad trying to shield his two sons, or the shooting of an elderly Jew in his kitchen, will know that, once again, yes, ‘powerless Jews’ were murdered for being Jews. No, it was not the Holocaust. Hamas, mercifully, is incapable of carrying out such industrial levels of murder. But the idea that ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 2023 is entirely different to ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 1943 is a wilful delusion born of brains poisoned by wokeness.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/22/accusing-israel-of-genocide-is-despicab...

"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" IS the call for genocide, as heard in every western city, from Sydney, Melbourne to London and New York.

Quote:

it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.

No people have from the start said that it was ‘horrendous’ - unqualified.

Though it is correct that there is no association with the Holocaust no more than their holocaust like response in Palestine is related to the Holocaust. That's just silly.

The proper response it to be critical of all the atrocities no mater who is behind them.

Here we have 2 wrongs and 0 rights.

How would YOU respond to 7 October, duckwit?

Other than gorging on peas. What is the CORRECT response to what Gazans did on 7 October?

Do tell us.

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Re: Gaza: genocide?
Reply #11 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:40pm

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:38pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:21pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:27pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

There are plenty of people who like to accuse the Jews of genocide. The facts simply do not support this claim. It is just more Jew-hating propaganda - an attempt to rebrand Nazism as woke by chanting idiotic slogans.

Yes, those idiots say, it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.
Their reasoning? Well, in the mid-20th century it was ‘powerless Jews’ being killed by ‘one of the most powerful states and armies’ – the Nazis. This time round, we have a ‘very powerful state’ – Israel – being attacked by ‘Palestinians who for decades [have been] under Israeli settler-colonial rule’. So it’s a ‘very, very different context’.

This is one of the most morally vacuous statements I have heard in a very long time. It is proof, surely, of the mind rot that flows from the Western identitarian obsession with power relations. For the truth is that on 7 October it was ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by a ‘powerful army’. In that pogrom, that moment, unarmed Jews were completely overpowered by a racist militia. Anyone who has witnessed the summary execution of two teenage girls at the music festival, or the bombing to death of an unarmed dad trying to shield his two sons, or the shooting of an elderly Jew in his kitchen, will know that, once again, yes, ‘powerless Jews’ were murdered for being Jews. No, it was not the Holocaust. Hamas, mercifully, is incapable of carrying out such industrial levels of murder. But the idea that ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 2023 is entirely different to ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 1943 is a wilful delusion born of brains poisoned by wokeness.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/22/accusing-israel-of-genocide-is-despicab...

"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" IS the call for genocide, as heard in every western city, from Sydney, Melbourne to London and New York.

Quote:

it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.

No people have from the start said that it was ‘horrendous’ - unqualified.

Though it is correct that there is no association with the Holocaust no more than their holocaust like response in Palestine is related to the Holocaust. That's just silly.

The proper response it to be critical of all the atrocities no mater who is behind them.

Here we have 2 wrongs and 0 rights.

How would YOU respond to 7 October, duckwit?

Easy.

Don't blow up hospitals and lie about Hamas hiding in them.

Don't murder children.

Don't murder pregnant women.

That's a pretty good start.

How many more babies do you want to see murdered? I'm curious.

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Reply #12 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:37pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:16pm:

Genocide doesn't necessarily mean killing every last person.

In fact, it doesn't have to involve killing at all.

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

The IDF is quite obviously committing genocide.

And so is a schoolyard bully.

You think genocide is a laughing matter? Undecided

Oh dear.

What is the korrekt response to the 7 October pogrom, repulsive, vomitous creep? What would YOU have done in response, skincrawling, lying, repellent shite?

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Reply #13 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:44pm

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:37pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:16pm:

Genocide doesn't necessarily mean killing every last person.

In fact, it doesn't have to involve killing at all.

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

The IDF is quite obviously committing genocide.

And so is a schoolyard bully.

You think genocide is a laughing matter? Undecided

Oh dear.

What is the korrekt response to the 7 October pogrom, repulsive, vomitous creep? What would YOU have done in response, skincrawling, lying, repellent shite?

Easy.

Don't blow up hospitals and lie about Hamas hiding in them.

Don't murder children.

Don't murder pregnant women.

That's a pretty good start.

How many more babies do you want to see murdered? I'm curious.

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Reply #15 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:54pm

Gordon wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:52pm:

Palestine had one of the fastest growing populations on earth, 33% faster that Israel

Genocide?.

Another one who doesn't actually know what genocide is.

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

How many more babies and pregnant women do you want to see slaughtered? I'm curious.

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Reply #16 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:44pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:37pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:16pm:

Genocide doesn't necessarily mean killing every last person.

In fact, it doesn't have to involve killing at all.

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

The IDF is quite obviously committing genocide.

And so is a schoolyard bully.

You think genocide is a laughing matter? Undecided

Oh dear.

What is the korrekt response to the 7 October pogrom, repulsive, vomitous creep? What would YOU have done in response, skincrawling, lying, repellent shite?

Easy.

Don't blow up hospitals and lie about Hamas hiding in them.

Don't murder children.

Don't murder pregnant women.

That's a pretty good start.

How many more babies do you want to see murdered? I'm curious.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, creepy vomit, don't do this and that.

What would you actually DO, creepy lying hidiouness. What would you DO.

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Reply #17 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:09pm

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:38pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:21pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:27pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

There are plenty of people who like to accuse the Jews of genocide. The facts simply do not support this claim. It is just more Jew-hating propaganda - an attempt to rebrand Nazism as woke by chanting idiotic slogans.

Yes, those idiots say, it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.
Their reasoning? Well, in the mid-20th century it was ‘powerless Jews’ being killed by ‘one of the most powerful states and armies’ – the Nazis. This time round, we have a ‘very powerful state’ – Israel – being attacked by ‘Palestinians who for decades [have been] under Israeli settler-colonial rule’. So it’s a ‘very, very different context’.

This is one of the most morally vacuous statements I have heard in a very long time. It is proof, surely, of the mind rot that flows from the Western identitarian obsession with power relations. For the truth is that on 7 October it was ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by a ‘powerful army’. In that pogrom, that moment, unarmed Jews were completely overpowered by a racist militia. Anyone who has witnessed the summary execution of two teenage girls at the music festival, or the bombing to death of an unarmed dad trying to shield his two sons, or the shooting of an elderly Jew in his kitchen, will know that, once again, yes, ‘powerless Jews’ were murdered for being Jews. No, it was not the Holocaust. Hamas, mercifully, is incapable of carrying out such industrial levels of murder. But the idea that ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 2023 is entirely different to ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 1943 is a wilful delusion born of brains poisoned by wokeness.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/22/accusing-israel-of-genocide-is-despicab...

"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" IS the call for genocide, as heard in every western city, from Sydney, Melbourne to London and New York.

Quote:

it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.

No people have from the start said that it was ‘horrendous’ - unqualified.

Though it is correct that there is no association with the Holocaust no more than their holocaust like response in Palestine is related to the Holocaust. That's just silly.

The proper response it to be critical of all the atrocities no mater who is behind them.

Here we have 2 wrongs and 0 rights.

How would YOU respond to 7 October, duckwit?

In the 17 years prior to oct Israel has killed over 6000 Palestinians as well as kidnapping over 60 minors and transporting them over the border

How do you suggest the Palestinians respond to those atrocities? Or is it only Jews that are allowed to retaliate?

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Reply #18 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:12pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:09pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:38pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:21pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:27pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

There are plenty of people who like to accuse the Jews of genocide. The facts simply do not support this claim. It is just more Jew-hating propaganda - an attempt to rebrand Nazism as woke by chanting idiotic slogans.

Yes, those idiots say, it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.
Their reasoning? Well, in the mid-20th century it was ‘powerless Jews’ being killed by ‘one of the most powerful states and armies’ – the Nazis. This time round, we have a ‘very powerful state’ – Israel – being attacked by ‘Palestinians who for decades [have been] under Israeli settler-colonial rule’. So it’s a ‘very, very different context’.

This is one of the most morally vacuous statements I have heard in a very long time. It is proof, surely, of the mind rot that flows from the Western identitarian obsession with power relations. For the truth is that on 7 October it was ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by a ‘powerful army’. In that pogrom, that moment, unarmed Jews were completely overpowered by a racist militia. Anyone who has witnessed the summary execution of two teenage girls at the music festival, or the bombing to death of an unarmed dad trying to shield his two sons, or the shooting of an elderly Jew in his kitchen, will know that, once again, yes, ‘powerless Jews’ were murdered for being Jews. No, it was not the Holocaust. Hamas, mercifully, is incapable of carrying out such industrial levels of murder. But the idea that ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 2023 is entirely different to ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 1943 is a wilful delusion born of brains poisoned by wokeness.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/22/accusing-israel-of-genocide-is-despicab...

"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" IS the call for genocide, as heard in every western city, from Sydney, Melbourne to London and New York.

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it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.

No people have from the start said that it was ‘horrendous’ - unqualified.

Though it is correct that there is no association with the Holocaust no more than their holocaust like response in Palestine is related to the Holocaust. That's just silly.

The proper response it to be critical of all the atrocities no mater who is behind them.

Here we have 2 wrongs and 0 rights.

How would YOU respond to 7 October, duckwit?

In the 17 years prior to oct Israel has killed over 6000 Palestinians as well as kidnapping over 60 minors and transporting them over the border

How do you suggest the Palestinians respond to those atrocities? Or is it only Jews that are allowed to retaliate?

How would YOU have responded to 7 October, thicko.
Don't squirm, it not a complicated question.

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Reply #19 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:14pm

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:12pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:09pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:38pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:21pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:27pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

There are plenty of people who like to accuse the Jews of genocide. The facts simply do not support this claim. It is just more Jew-hating propaganda - an attempt to rebrand Nazism as woke by chanting idiotic slogans.

Yes, those idiots say, it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.
Their reasoning? Well, in the mid-20th century it was ‘powerless Jews’ being killed by ‘one of the most powerful states and armies’ – the Nazis. This time round, we have a ‘very powerful state’ – Israel – being attacked by ‘Palestinians who for decades [have been] under Israeli settler-colonial rule’. So it’s a ‘very, very different context’.

This is one of the most morally vacuous statements I have heard in a very long time. It is proof, surely, of the mind rot that flows from the Western identitarian obsession with power relations. For the truth is that on 7 October it was ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by a ‘powerful army’. In that pogrom, that moment, unarmed Jews were completely overpowered by a racist militia. Anyone who has witnessed the summary execution of two teenage girls at the music festival, or the bombing to death of an unarmed dad trying to shield his two sons, or the shooting of an elderly Jew in his kitchen, will know that, once again, yes, ‘powerless Jews’ were murdered for being Jews. No, it was not the Holocaust. Hamas, mercifully, is incapable of carrying out such industrial levels of murder. But the idea that ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 2023 is entirely different to ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 1943 is a wilful delusion born of brains poisoned by wokeness.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/22/accusing-israel-of-genocide-is-despicab...

"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" IS the call for genocide, as heard in every western city, from Sydney, Melbourne to London and New York.

Quote:

it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.

No people have from the start said that it was ‘horrendous’ - unqualified.

Though it is correct that there is no association with the Holocaust no more than their holocaust like response in Palestine is related to the Holocaust. That's just silly.

The proper response it to be critical of all the atrocities no mater who is behind them.

Here we have 2 wrongs and 0 rights.

How would YOU respond to 7 October, duckwit?

In the 17 years prior to oct Israel has killed over 6000 Palestinians as well as kidnapping over 60 minors and transporting them over the border

How do you suggest the Palestinians respond to those atrocities? Or is it only Jews that are allowed to retaliate?

How would YOU have responded to 7 October, thicko.
Don't squirm, it not a complicated question.

I'd target hamas insteadof children, womenand hospitals. . It's not that difficult. Even an idiot like you could have figured it out if you pulled your head out of your arse.

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Reply #20 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:16pm

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:44pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:37pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:16pm:

Genocide doesn't necessarily mean killing every last person.

In fact, it doesn't have to involve killing at all.

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

The IDF is quite obviously committing genocide.

And so is a schoolyard bully.

You think genocide is a laughing matter? Undecided

Oh dear.

What is the korrekt response to the 7 October pogrom, repulsive, vomitous creep? What would YOU have done in response, skincrawling, lying, repellent shite?

Easy.

Don't blow up hospitals and lie about Hamas hiding in them.

Don't murder children.

Don't murder pregnant women.

That's a pretty good start.

How many more babies do you want to see murdered? I'm curious.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, creepy vomit, don't do this and that.

What would you actually DO, creepy lying hidiouness. What would you DO.

Tell my military force to not kill babies and pregnant women.

You?

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Reply #22 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:23pm

Belgarion wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:18pm:

I see the usual suspects have no answer. These are the useful fools who encourage HAMAS to continue using the vile tactics that have led to the deaths of so many civilians. Roll Eyes

Everyone here condemns Hamas unconditionally.

Now, how many more babies and pregnant women would you like to see the IDF murder?

I'm curious.

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Reply #23 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:16pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:44pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:37pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:16pm:

Genocide doesn't necessarily mean killing every last person.

In fact, it doesn't have to involve killing at all.

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

The IDF is quite obviously committing genocide.

And so is a schoolyard bully.

You think genocide is a laughing matter? Undecided

Oh dear.

What is the korrekt response to the 7 October pogrom, repulsive, vomitous creep? What would YOU have done in response, skincrawling, lying, repellent shite?

Easy.

Don't blow up hospitals and lie about Hamas hiding in them.

Don't murder children.

Don't murder pregnant women.

That's a pretty good start.

How many more babies do you want to see murdered? I'm curious.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, creepy vomit, don't do this and that.

What would you actually DO, creepy lying hidiouness. What would you DO.

Tell my military force to not kill babies and pregnant women.

You?

It is good to see that you bozos remain TOTALLY unserious, frivolous and stupid. There is nothing else for you, in your morally, intellectually corrupt, deformed positions.

It is futile to point out that Israel evacuated civilians but Hamas forced them to stay in in the line of fire. It is pointless to say that Israel evacuated Palestinian hospital patients, including babies, that they provided neonatal care to Palestinians even after Palestinians brutalized innocent Israeli women and children.

Being the irredeemable evil turd you are, you will parrot your stupid lies. That IS your role in life. It is is quite startling, turd - You live only once and you are a force for evil.

Let god have mercy on you, I don't.

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Reply #25 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:23pm:

Belgarion wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:18pm:

I see the usual suspects have no answer. These are the useful fools who encourage HAMAS to continue using the vile tactics that have led to the deaths of so many civilians. Roll Eyes

Everyone here condemns Hamas unconditionally.

Now, how many more babies and pregnant women would you like to see the IDF murder?

I'm curious.

This is the sort of statement that encourages HAMAS to continue doing what they are doing. How does it feel to be responsible for all these innocent deaths? Roll Eyes

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Reply #27 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

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Reply #28 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:44pm

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:12pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:09pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:38pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:21pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:27pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

There are plenty of people who like to accuse the Jews of genocide. The facts simply do not support this claim. It is just more Jew-hating propaganda - an attempt to rebrand Nazism as woke by chanting idiotic slogans.

Yes, those idiots say, it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.
Their reasoning? Well, in the mid-20th century it was ‘powerless Jews’ being killed by ‘one of the most powerful states and armies’ – the Nazis. This time round, we have a ‘very powerful state’ – Israel – being attacked by ‘Palestinians who for decades [have been] under Israeli settler-colonial rule’. So it’s a ‘very, very different context’.

This is one of the most morally vacuous statements I have heard in a very long time. It is proof, surely, of the mind rot that flows from the Western identitarian obsession with power relations. For the truth is that on 7 October it was ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by a ‘powerful army’. In that pogrom, that moment, unarmed Jews were completely overpowered by a racist militia. Anyone who has witnessed the summary execution of two teenage girls at the music festival, or the bombing to death of an unarmed dad trying to shield his two sons, or the shooting of an elderly Jew in his kitchen, will know that, once again, yes, ‘powerless Jews’ were murdered for being Jews. No, it was not the Holocaust. Hamas, mercifully, is incapable of carrying out such industrial levels of murder. But the idea that ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 2023 is entirely different to ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 1943 is a wilful delusion born of brains poisoned by wokeness.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/22/accusing-israel-of-genocide-is-despicab...

"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" IS the call for genocide, as heard in every western city, from Sydney, Melbourne to London and New York.

Quote:

it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.

No people have from the start said that it was ‘horrendous’ - unqualified.

Though it is correct that there is no association with the Holocaust no more than their holocaust like response in Palestine is related to the Holocaust. That's just silly.

The proper response it to be critical of all the atrocities no mater who is behind them.

Here we have 2 wrongs and 0 rights.

How would YOU respond to 7 October, duckwit?

In the 17 years prior to oct Israel has killed over 6000 Palestinians as well as kidnapping over 60 minors and transporting them over the border

How do you suggest the Palestinians respond to those atrocities? Or is it only Jews that are allowed to retaliate?

How would YOU have responded to 7 October, thicko.
Don't squirm, it not a complicated question.

You are denying Israeli responsibility for Oct 7th, and you are now complicit in the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

You aren't capable of processing reason; when I pointed out Jews accepted the partition plan - of course,....but the Arabs didn't - of course, it belonged to them since 600AD, you just run away and hide.

Typical conservative denial of causation.

"Deplorable".

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Reply #29 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:45pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:44pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:12pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:09pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:38pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:21pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:27pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

There are plenty of people who like to accuse the Jews of genocide. The facts simply do not support this claim. It is just more Jew-hating propaganda - an attempt to rebrand Nazism as woke by chanting idiotic slogans.

Yes, those idiots say, it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.
Their reasoning? Well, in the mid-20th century it was ‘powerless Jews’ being killed by ‘one of the most powerful states and armies’ – the Nazis. This time round, we have a ‘very powerful state’ – Israel – being attacked by ‘Palestinians who for decades [have been] under Israeli settler-colonial rule’. So it’s a ‘very, very different context’.

This is one of the most morally vacuous statements I have heard in a very long time. It is proof, surely, of the mind rot that flows from the Western identitarian obsession with power relations. For the truth is that on 7 October it was ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by a ‘powerful army’. In that pogrom, that moment, unarmed Jews were completely overpowered by a racist militia. Anyone who has witnessed the summary execution of two teenage girls at the music festival, or the bombing to death of an unarmed dad trying to shield his two sons, or the shooting of an elderly Jew in his kitchen, will know that, once again, yes, ‘powerless Jews’ were murdered for being Jews. No, it was not the Holocaust. Hamas, mercifully, is incapable of carrying out such industrial levels of murder. But the idea that ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 2023 is entirely different to ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 1943 is a wilful delusion born of brains poisoned by wokeness.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/22/accusing-israel-of-genocide-is-despicab...

"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" IS the call for genocide, as heard in every western city, from Sydney, Melbourne to London and New York.

Quote:

it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.

No people have from the start said that it was ‘horrendous’ - unqualified.

Though it is correct that there is no association with the Holocaust no more than their holocaust like response in Palestine is related to the Holocaust. That's just silly.

The proper response it to be critical of all the atrocities no mater who is behind them.

Here we have 2 wrongs and 0 rights.

How would YOU respond to 7 October, duckwit?

In the 17 years prior to oct Israel has killed over 6000 Palestinians as well as kidnapping over 60 minors and transporting them over the border

How do you suggest the Palestinians respond to those atrocities? Or is it only Jews that are allowed to retaliate?

How would YOU have responded to 7 October, thicko.
Don't squirm, it not a complicated question.

You are denying Israeli responsibility for Oct 7th, and you are now complicit in the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

You aren't capable of processing reason; when I pointed out Israel accepted the partition plan - of course,....but the Arabs didn't - of course, it belonged to them since 600AD, you just run away and hide.

Typical conservative denial of causation.

"Deplorable".

How would YOU have responded to 7 October, parrot.
Don't squirm, it not a complicated question.

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Reply #30 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:46pm

Belgarion wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:23pm:

Belgarion wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:18pm:

I see the usual suspects have no answer. These are the useful fools who encourage HAMAS to continue using the vile tactics that have led to the deaths of so many civilians. Roll Eyes

Everyone here condemns Hamas unconditionally.

Now, how many more babies and pregnant women would you like to see the IDF murder?

I'm curious.

This is the sort of statement that encourages HAMAS to continue doing what they are doing. How does it feel to be responsible for all these innocent deaths? Roll Eyes

Now, how many more babies and pregnant women would you like to see the IDF murder?

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Reply #31 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:49pm

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:45pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:44pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:12pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:09pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:38pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:21pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:27pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

There are plenty of people who like to accuse the Jews of genocide. The facts simply do not support this claim. It is just more Jew-hating propaganda - an attempt to rebrand Nazism as woke by chanting idiotic slogans.

Yes, those idiots say, it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.
Their reasoning? Well, in the mid-20th century it was ‘powerless Jews’ being killed by ‘one of the most powerful states and armies’ – the Nazis. This time round, we have a ‘very powerful state’ – Israel – being attacked by ‘Palestinians who for decades [have been] under Israeli settler-colonial rule’. So it’s a ‘very, very different context’.

This is one of the most morally vacuous statements I have heard in a very long time. It is proof, surely, of the mind rot that flows from the Western identitarian obsession with power relations. For the truth is that on 7 October it was ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by a ‘powerful army’. In that pogrom, that moment, unarmed Jews were completely overpowered by a racist militia. Anyone who has witnessed the summary execution of two teenage girls at the music festival, or the bombing to death of an unarmed dad trying to shield his two sons, or the shooting of an elderly Jew in his kitchen, will know that, once again, yes, ‘powerless Jews’ were murdered for being Jews. No, it was not the Holocaust. Hamas, mercifully, is incapable of carrying out such industrial levels of murder. But the idea that ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 2023 is entirely different to ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 1943 is a wilful delusion born of brains poisoned by wokeness.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/22/accusing-israel-of-genocide-is-despicab...

"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" IS the call for genocide, as heard in every western city, from Sydney, Melbourne to London and New York.

Quote:

it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.

No people have from the start said that it was ‘horrendous’ - unqualified.

Though it is correct that there is no association with the Holocaust no more than their holocaust like response in Palestine is related to the Holocaust. That's just silly.

The proper response it to be critical of all the atrocities no mater who is behind them.

Here we have 2 wrongs and 0 rights.

How would YOU respond to 7 October, duckwit?

In the 17 years prior to oct Israel has killed over 6000 Palestinians as well as kidnapping over 60 minors and transporting them over the border

How do you suggest the Palestinians respond to those atrocities? Or is it only Jews that are allowed to retaliate?

How would YOU have responded to 7 October, thicko.
Don't squirm, it not a complicated question.

You are denying Israeli responsibility for Oct 7th, and you are now complicit in the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

You aren't capable of processing reason; when I pointed out Israel accepted the partition plan - of course,....but the Arabs didn't - of course, it belonged to them since 600AD, you just run away and hide.

Typical conservative denial of causation.

"Deplorable".

How would YOU have responded to 7 October, parrot.
Don't squirm, it not a complicated question.

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Reply #32 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:53pm

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

How would I deal with it?

Well...Trump was in a position in 2017 to bang some heads together in the UNSC, he was on "good" terms with strongmen Xi and Putin, he could have implemented UN res 242, and guaranteed Israel's security by demonstrating the US's ability to take out extremist ideologues without destroying civilians.

But in the end, Trump lacked the vision...

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Reply #33 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:58pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:53pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

How would I deal with it?

Well...Trump was in a position in 2017 to bang some heads together in the UNSC, he was on "good" terms with strongmen Xi and Putin, he could have implemented UN res 242, and guaranteed Israel's security by demonstrating the US's ability to take out extremist ideologues without dstroying civilians.

But in the end, Trump lacked the vision...

Irrelevant, I'm not the one saying "don't do this, don't do that" without saying how they would do it. You're attempting to answer a question with a question.

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Reply #34 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 7:37pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 4:16pm:

Genocide doesn't necessarily mean killing every last person.

In fact, it doesn't have to involve killing at all.

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

The IDF is quite obviously committing genocide.

And so is a schoolyard bully.

You think genocide is a laughing matter? Undecided

Oh dear.

I am laughing at the stupidity of your posts Greg.

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Reply #36 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:08pm

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

I already told you, id target hamas. It's not rocket science ffs.

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Reply #37 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:10pm

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:58pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:53pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

How would I deal with it?

Well...Trump was in a position in 2017 to bang some heads together in the UNSC, he was on "good" terms with strongmen Xi and Putin, he could have implemented UN res 242, and guaranteed Israel's security by demonstrating the US's ability to take out extremist ideologues without dstroying civilians.

But in the end, Trump lacked the vision...

Irrelevant, I'm not the one saying "don't do this, don't do that" without saying how they would do it. You're attempting to answer a question with a question.

No, I'm attempting to get you to use your brain, and to consider what is needed to end the conflict, after Israel has ...eliminated ... Hamas.

The world is watching, Israel runs the risk of irretrievably shaming itself forever.

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Reply #38 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:14pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

I already told you, id target hamas. It's not rocket science ffs.

How? What would be your plan?

Every time HAMAS launches a rocket, Israel should launch one back to exact co-ords it was fired from and like HAMAS not caring if it hit civilians? Do retaliatory raids to rape, murder, behead and burn Palestinians, not necessarily in that order? Hunt down HAMAS with single shot pistols so no civilians get used as a human shield? What is your plan?

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Reply #39 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:18pm

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

I already told you, id target hamas. It's not rocket science ffs.

How? What would be your plan?

Target hamas. What part of that is difficult?

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Reply #40 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:22pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

I already told you, id target hamas. It's not rocket science ffs.

How? What would be your plan?

Target hamas. What part of that is difficult?

They are, you don't like them doing it.

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Reply #41 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:26pm

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

I already told you, id target hamas. It's not rocket science ffs.

How? What would be your plan?

Target hamas. What part of that is difficult?

They are, you don't like them doing it.

Not while Israel displays no intentions to ever implement UN res 242. That's why we need the US to show some moral backbone.

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Reply #42 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:37pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:26pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

I already told you, id target hamas. It's not rocket science ffs.

How? What would be your plan?

Target hamas. What part of that is difficult?

They are, you don't like them doing it.

Not while Israel displays no intentions to ever implement UN res 242. That's why we need the US to show some moral backbone.

You still haven't said what you would do beyond your hypothetical UN that doesn't actually exist. Should the world make America have some "backbone"? How? Do you think we should let China make the world a better place?

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Reply #43 - Dec 12^th, 2023 at 10:02pm

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

I already told you, id target hamas. It's not rocket science ffs.

How? What would be your plan?

Target hamas. What part of that is difficult?

They are, you don't like them doing it.

Unless they are totally incompetent, No they are not.

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Reply #44 - Dec 13^th, 2023 at 6:05am

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

They would "deal" with it by not doing anything to prevent Muslims achieving their genocide of the Jews.

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 10:02pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

I already told you, id target hamas. It's not rocket science ffs.

How? What would be your plan?

Target hamas. What part of that is difficult?

They are, you don't like them doing it.

Unless they are totally incompetent, No they are not.

If you think it would be so easy, why is this the closest thing to a straight answer anyone has posted here on the topic?

Would you describe what Israel is doing as genocide?

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Reply #45 - Dec 13^th, 2023 at 6:07am

freediver wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 6:05am:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

They would "deal" with it by not doing anything to prevent Muslims achieving their genocide of the Jews.

Do you enjoy seeing babies blown up FD? Does it turn you on?

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Reply #47 - Dec 13^th, 2023 at 8:14am

John Smith wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 6:07am:

freediver wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 6:05am:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

They would "deal" with it by not doing anything to prevent Muslims achieving their genocide of the Jews.

Do you enjoy seeing babies blown up FD? Does it turn you on?

I haven't seen ANY babies being blown up. Where are you watching such stuff, thicko? Why?

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Reply #48 - Dec 13^th, 2023 at 8:16am

IMAGE.....

[.....because the current land of Israel was once captured by ISLAMIC invaders/conquerors....]
The 'lawful' position of every devout follower of ISLAM, is that all of 'Israel' must AGAIN, be re-captured and possessed >> and dominated << by ISLAM and by Allah's proxies - on behalf of Allah.

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The Jihadists [all followers of ISLAM] want Al-Andalusa [all of Spain] back too.

Quote:

Al-Andalus[a] was the Muslim-ruled area of the Iberian Peninsula.
The term is used by modern historians for the former Islamic states in modern Spain, Portugal, and France. The name describes the different Muslim states that controlled these territories at various times between 711 and 1492.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Andalus

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And followers of ISLAM in Australia will always >> publicly << insist that THEY, are a peace loving community.

And, will insist, that the content [the 'open' hostility towards disbelievers] displayed within the following YOUTUBE, is an aberration, to the peace loving followers of ISLAM.....

aberration = = an unwelcome or unacceptable deviation from what is normal.

Muslims brainwash children in Australia

03 min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E

IN THE YOUTUBE ABOVE, WE WITNESS, THAT IN AUSTRALIA
[and 'behind closed doors'],
MOSLEM CHILDREN, IN MANY MOSLEM HOMES, ARE BEING TAUGHT
'HOW TO PRACTICE ISLAM',
AND FROM CHILDHOOD, ARE BEING URGED TO DEVELOP THE DESIRE TO BECOME AN ISLAMIC MARTYR ------ >

MAKE NO MISTAKE......in the YOUTUBE video [above] we are witnessing, good 'Aussie' moslems,

living in Australia,

who behind closed doors,
are teaching their children how to practice ISLAM.....

QUOTE from the YOUTUBE video.... Quote:

"You're never too young to be a warrior for Allah - [ i.e. a homicidal maniac for Allah]!"

- 'Aussie' moslem child, being taught 'how to practice ISLAM', in Australia.

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Another aberrant 'embarrassment', for our 'Aussie' followers of ISLAM......

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1504079978/14#14
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'Teacher quits after primary school students threaten to behead her'

QUESTION;
Where do moslem children living in Australia get these ideas from ?

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Quote:

How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior

January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong

"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-isla...

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A number of good examples here, of the [deceit and] [completely 'lawful'] violent intentions of followers of ISLAM,
towards ALL recalcitrant disbelievers....

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1570367530/2#2

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Reply #49 - Dec 13^th, 2023 at 8:18am

John Smith wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 6:07am:

freediver wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 6:05am:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

They would "deal" with it by not doing anything to prevent Muslims achieving their genocide of the Jews.

Do you enjoy seeing babies blown up FD? Does it turn you on?

No more than I enjoy sitting on my hands and watching a holocaust John. Do you think you would be better able to deal with Hamas than Israel? If so, how? Or are you only interested in the topic so you can spread more lies about Jews? Do you actually have anything to say beyond this moronic dribble?

Would you describe what Israel is doing as genocide?

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Reply #50 - Dec 13^th, 2023 at 9:13am

IF SOME WANT TO MAKE ACCUSATIONS ABOUT GENOCIDE.....

Human history itself, attests that ISLAM is a philosophy which has encouraged and condoned the oppression and the murder of millions, and millions of human beings, who came into contact with the followers of ISLAM.

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WWW search....
islam kill "2 million Christians", sudan, since 1983
.....BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM

WWW search....
islam jihad into india killed 80 million
.....BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM

WWW search....
islam has massacred over 669+ million non-muslims since 622AD
.....BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM

WWW search....
before they came into contact with ISLAM, the people of Afghanistan, were 100% Buddhist

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FACT;
In Gaza and in Lebanon, there exists two major [i.e 'large'] terrorist entities......
HAMAS ["Islamic Resistance Movement"] and
HEZBOLLAH ["The Party of Allah"].

Both of these 'large' local terrorist entities have publicly declared their 'want'....
1/ to kill [to commit genocide upon] >> ALL << local Jews [inside the State of Israel],
AND,
2/ to overwhelm and to totally obliterate the State of Israel - THROUGH 'WAR'/HOLY JIHAD VIOLENCE.

obliterate = =
1 destroy utterly; wipe out.
2 blot out; erase.

MeisterEckhart said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1702360528/51#51
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....it seems clear......that Israel's ultimate strategic goal is to end Gaza and,
......to end Hezbollah's control of Lebanon.

QUESTION;
Is MeisterEckhart suggesting that the State of Israel should >> too <<,
be regarded by the world community as a violent state......
.....BECAUSE, the State of Israel seeks to protect itself [and its people], by the only means available to it ???

Taking up arms, TO DEFEND ITSELF, ....and ITS EXISTENCE.

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But, but, but, ......what about the suffering and death,
among all of those 'innocent',
and >> peace loving << followers of ISLAM, in Gaza ??? !!!!!!!

And, why is 'TAKING UP ARMS', the only practical option open to the State of Israel ???

EVIDENTIAL ANSWERS/REASONS ARE DEMONSTRATED BELOW ------- >

ISLAM, is a deceitful, murderous death cult.

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Quote:

Cleric preaches that violence is part of Islam

01/05/2007

In documents seen by The Daily Telegraph, al-Muhajiroun claimed:

"Terrorism is a part of Islam" and "Allah made it obligatory to prepare and to terrify the enemy of Allah".

The article advised:

"The kuffar of USA and UK are without doubt our enemy.

There is no such thing as an innocent kafir, innocence is only applicable for the Muslims.

Not only is it obligatory to fight them, it is haram [forbidden] to feel sorry for them."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1550211/Cleric-preaches-that-violence-is-...

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ISLAM, is a deceitful, murderous death cult.

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Quote:

Attack on London 'inevitable'
April 19, 2004

"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents.

Only between Muslims and unbelievers.

And the life of an unbeliever has no value.

It has no sanctity."

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/19/1082326119414.html?from=storyrhs&oneclick=true

this is an old link, but the article is kosher.

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ISLAM, is a deceitful, murderous death cult.

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A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing.

Quote:

Inside the sect that loves terror
August 07, 2005

......In public interviews
Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians.

Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent:

“Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar.”

n.b. 'kuffar' = = disbeliever

these are old links, but the article is kosher.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html
another source, "Undercover in the academy of hatred"...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458729/posts

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Reply #53 - Dec 13^th, 2023 at 8:56pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

I already told you, id target hamas. It's not rocket science ffs.

How? What would be your plan?

Target hamas. What part of that is difficult?

How do you tell Hamas from non-Hamas?
That's the difficult part, thicko.

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Reply #54 - Dec 13^th, 2023 at 9:00pm

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John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

I already told you, id target hamas. It's not rocket science ffs.

How? What would be your plan?

Target hamas. What part of that is difficult?

How do you tell Hamas from non-Hamas?
That's the difficult part, thicko.

Senior people in Hamas are not in Palestine.

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Reply #55 - Dec 13^th, 2023 at 9:07pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 9:00pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 8:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

I already told you, id target hamas. It's not rocket science ffs.

How? What would be your plan?

Target hamas. What part of that is difficult?

How do you tell Hamas from non-Hamas?
That's the difficult part, thicko.

Senior people in Hamas are not in Palestine.

So? Non senior Hamas people - ie most of them - are in Gaza. How do you tell them apart from non Hamas Pallos?

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Reply #56 - Dec 13^th, 2023 at 10:56pm

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 9:07pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 9:00pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 8:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

I already told you, id target hamas. It's not rocket science ffs.

How? What would be your plan?

Target hamas. What part of that is difficult?

How do you tell Hamas from non-Hamas?
That's the difficult part, thicko.

Senior people in Hamas are not in Palestine.

So? Non senior Hamas people - ie most of them - are in Gaza. How do you tell them apart from non Hamas Pallos?

Your confusion doesn't justify deliberately killing over 20,000 innocent people or creating another 3 generations of people out for revenge against Israel.

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Reply #57 - Dec 13^th, 2023 at 11:33pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 10:56pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 9:07pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 9:00pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 8:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

I already told you, id target hamas. It's not rocket science ffs.

How? What would be your plan?

Target hamas. What part of that is difficult?

How do you tell Hamas from non-Hamas?
That's the difficult part, thicko.

Senior people in Hamas are not in Palestine.

So? Non senior Hamas people - ie most of them - are in Gaza. How do you tell them apart from non Hamas Pallos?

Your confusion doesn't justify deliberately killing over 20,000 innocent people or creating another 3 generations of people out for revenge against Israel.

No confusion.

How do you tell Hamas apart from others?

Explain.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61570 Here Gender:	Re: Gaza: genocide? Reply #58 - Dec 13^th, 2023 at 11:41pm Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 11:33pm: No confusion. How do you tell Hamas apart from others? Explain. It is the same in most conflicts but it is not acceptable to go in and just kill everyone. Besides it has been Netanyahu who has been Hamas's biggest sponsor for many years, He does not want a solution - never did.
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Reply #59 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:25am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 11:41pm:

It is the same in most conflicts but it is not acceptable to go in and just kill everyone.

It is strange.

EACH TIME, .....before attacking Israel, we will often witness members of local Mohammedan terrorist groups,

declaring that they dearly want to die as a martyr for Allah.

Even moslem children IN AUSTRALIA.......have been witnessed saying such things

And then as soon as they have completed their terrorist attack upon some Israelis [usually civilians].......

....these Mohammedans then say "War is too harsh!"

....and ask, "Why are the Zionists committing genocide upon us!!!"

....as though, .....they NO LONGER have any desire, to die as martyrs for Allah.

It is strange.

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ISLAM - THE CULT WHICH ENCOURAGES,
WORSHIPS....DEATH AND [LAWFUL] MURDERS

"We love death."

Quote:

"We love death.
The US loves life.
That is the difference between us two."

- Osama bin Laden, November 2001

Quote:

"The Jews love life, .....they love life and we love death."

Hezbollah’s Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah

Quote:

".....On the one hand, Israeli culture values life in all its aspects, including the sanctity of the life of others. Their soldiers take risks to spare civilians on the other side, unprecedented in the history of warfare. Aware of Israeli inhibitions, Jihadi groups use their own people as human shields in fighting the Israelis.
Over the last few years, these Jihadi groups have developed a full-blown death cult in which they raise their children to want to die killing others."

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"We have discovered how to hit the Jews where they are the most vulnerable. The Jews love life, so that is what we shall take away from them. We are going to win, because they love life and we love death."

Hezbollah’s Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah

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"Our blood is cheap compared with the cause which has brought us together and which at moments separated us, but shortly we will meet again in heaven…"

Yasser Arafat (Maariv, Oct. 4, 1996)

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"Why do other people love life, while we love death and violence, slaughter and suicide, and [even] call it heroism and martyrdom?"

Tunisian intellectual Al-Afif Al-Akhdar

Those "...we love death" quotes, above, were sourced here...
http://www.theaugeanstables.com/2006/08/02/501/

WWW search....
jihad - "we love death"

WWW search....
muslims "we love death"

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And THE SOURCE, of the 'inspiration' for the mujaheddin love of their own death ???

It is, the Koran !

THE DEATH CLAUSE IN THE CONTRACT, OF ALLEGIANCE TO ALLAH's RELIGION...

"Say: "...If ye think that ye are friends to Allah, to the exclusion of (other) men, then express your desire for Death, if ye are truthful!" "
Koran 62.06

....n.b. Koran 62.06 is admonishing the believer, that his only true love, in this life [if he is a true moslem], is to die, fighting in Allah's cause. !!!

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Reply #60 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 8:10am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 9:39am:

Regardless of which side anyone supports, it seems clear now that Israel's ultimate strategic goal is to end Gaza and, considering comments about possible war with Lebanon from Israel's security minister, to end Hezbollah's control of Lebanon.

Their ultimate goal is to avoid another holocaust. If they were not Jewish would you be so eager to assign some kind of ulterior motive to their survival?

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Reply #61 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 8:16am

freediver wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 8:10am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 9:39am:

Regardless of which side anyone supports, it seems clear now that Israel's ultimate strategic goal is to end Gaza and, considering comments about possible war with Lebanon from Israel's security minister, to end Hezbollah's control of Lebanon.

Their ultimate goal is to avoid another holocaust. If they were not Jewish would you be so eager to assign some kind of ulterior motive to their survival?

Their ultimate goal is survival.

It's been fixed into Jewish-Israeli 'DNA' since 1948 that the state of Israel could easily collapse without Jewish hyper-vigilance.

It is a sentiment that is both close to the surface of, and bone-deep within, the modern Jewish psyche.

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Reply #62 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 11:24am

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:37pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:26pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

I already told you, id target hamas. It's not rocket science ffs.

How? What would be your plan?

Target hamas. What part of that is difficult?

They are, you don't like them doing it.

Not while Israel displays no intentions to ever implement UN res 242. That's why we need the US to show some moral backbone.

You still haven't said what you would do beyond your hypothetical UN that doesn't actually exist.

The question is WHY doesn't it exist....Doc Evatt showed the way but he was rejected, WHY was his plan for the UNSC rejected (ie no veto)?

Note: Meister thinks "instinct sensibilities" are "reason".... he is one sick bunny, revealing a very widespread illness.

So we are reduced to watching the slaughter of children which according to FD is not genocide.....it is dead children - 10,000 of them slaughtered since Oct 7th. part of the endless cycle of violence after the fumbled UN-enabled creation of Israel.

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Should the world make America have some "backbone"? How?

By the exchange of ideas; "Civilization is a race between education and catastrophe" HG Wells.

Quote:

Do you think we should let China make the world a better place?

We should not fall for US propaganda - determined to maintain US global hegemony - that China is a "threat".

The next few years will show which nation is most successfully (and sustainably) housing and employing its citizens.

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Reply #63 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:07pm

freediver wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 8:10am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 9:39am:

Regardless of which side anyone supports, it seems clear now that Israel's ultimate strategic goal is to end Gaza and, considering comments about possible war with Lebanon from Israel's security minister, to end Hezbollah's control of Lebanon.

Their ultimate goal is to avoid another holocaust. If they were not Jewish would you be so eager to assign some kind of ulterior motive to their survival?

It isn't really avoiding a holocaust by creating one of their own against the Palestinians. All they are doing is to guarantee furure revenge attacks against them.

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Reply #65 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:18pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:11pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 11:33pm:

No confusion.

How do you tell Hamas apart from others?

Explain.

You can't even tell Palestinians from Israeli's but they are not confusing them.

So you can't tell them apart, Hamas and non-Hamas.

But you want to end the rooting out of Hamas because.... er.... You really want to see the rooting out of Israel.

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Reply #66 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:22pm

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:11pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 11:33pm:

No confusion.

How do you tell Hamas apart from others?

Explain.

You can't even tell Palestinians from Israeli's but they are not confusing them.

So you can't tell them apart, Hamas and non-Hamas.

But you want to end the rooting out of Hamas because.... er.... You really want to see the rooting out of Israel.

Rubbish with a kill rate of over 1,500 to 1 they are not attempting to root out anything they are just murdering innocent Palestinians.

I don't want to see anyone treated like this. Catch and fully penalise the criminals on both sides.

It's not difficult to understand. It just isn't ok to murder innocent people of either nationality.

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Reply #67 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:28pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:22pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:11pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 11:33pm:

No confusion.

How do you tell Hamas apart from others?

Explain.

You can't even tell Palestinians from Israeli's but they are not confusing them.

So you can't tell them apart, Hamas and non-Hamas.

But you want to end the rooting out of Hamas because.... er.... You really want to see the rooting out of Israel.

Rubbish with a kill rate of over 1,500 to 1 they are not attempting to root out anything they are just murdering innocent Palestinians.

I don't want to see anyone treated like this. Catch and fully penalise the criminals on both sides.

It's not difficult to understand. It just isn't ok to murder innocent people of either nationality.

You forgot to explain how do you tell Hamas apart from others.

Explain.

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Reply #68 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:32pm

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:28pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:22pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:11pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 11:33pm:

No confusion.

How do you tell Hamas apart from others?

Explain.

You can't even tell Palestinians from Israeli's but they are not confusing them.

So you can't tell them apart, Hamas and non-Hamas.

But you want to end the rooting out of Hamas because.... er.... You really want to see the rooting out of Israel.

Rubbish with a kill rate of over 1,500 to 1 they are not attempting to root out anything they are just murdering innocent Palestinians.

I don't want to see anyone treated like this. Catch and fully penalise the criminals on both sides.

It's not difficult to understand. It just isn't ok to murder innocent people of either nationality.

You forgot to explain how do you tell Hamas apart from others.

Explain.

You ask them questions, Soren? I know that is too difficult for Islamophobes like you. You'd just rather be like your Granddad and march them into cattletrucks on freight trains, now wouldn't you? You are just a fascist, aren't you? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #69 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:36pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:32pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:28pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:22pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:11pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 11:33pm:

No confusion.

How do you tell Hamas apart from others?

Explain.

You can't even tell Palestinians from Israeli's but they are not confusing them.

So you can't tell them apart, Hamas and non-Hamas.

But you want to end the rooting out of Hamas because.... er.... You really want to see the rooting out of Israel.

Rubbish with a kill rate of over 1,500 to 1 they are not attempting to root out anything they are just murdering innocent Palestinians.

I don't want to see anyone treated like this. Catch and fully penalise the criminals on both sides.

It's not difficult to understand. It just isn't ok to murder innocent people of either nationality.

You forgot to explain how do you tell Hamas apart from others.

Explain.

You ask them questions, Soren? I know that is too difficult for Islamophobes like you. You'd just rather be like your Granddad and march them into cattletrucks on freight trains, now wouldn't you? You are just a fascist, aren't you? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Excuse me, are you by any chance Hama?

These guys said 'yes'.

Tsk, tsk. Shocked

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Reply #70 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:41pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:22pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:11pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 11:33pm:

No confusion.

How do you tell Hamas apart from others?

Explain.

You can't even tell Palestinians from Israeli's but they are not confusing them.

So you can't tell them apart, Hamas and non-Hamas.

But you want to end the rooting out of Hamas because.... er.... You really want to see the rooting out of Israel.

Rubbish with a kill rate of over 1,500 to 1 they are not attempting to root out anything they are just murdering innocent Palestinians.

I don't want to see anyone treated like this. Catch and fully penalise the criminals on both sides.

It's not difficult to understand. It just isn't ok to murder innocent people of either nationality.

Can you explain your logic please DNA? How do you derive their specific intentions from the relative kill rates?

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Reply #71 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 1:14pm

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:32pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:28pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:22pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:11pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 11:33pm:

No confusion.

How do you tell Hamas apart from others?

Explain.

You can't even tell Palestinians from Israeli's but they are not confusing them.

So you can't tell them apart, Hamas and non-Hamas.

But you want to end the rooting out of Hamas because.... er.... You really want to see the rooting out of Israel.

Rubbish with a kill rate of over 1,500 to 1 they are not attempting to root out anything they are just murdering innocent Palestinians.

I don't want to see anyone treated like this. Catch and fully penalise the criminals on both sides.

It's not difficult to understand. It just isn't ok to murder innocent people of either nationality.

You forgot to explain how do you tell Hamas apart from others.

Explain.

You ask them questions, Soren? I know that is too difficult for Islamophobes like you. You'd just rather be like your Granddad and march them into cattletrucks on freight trains, now wouldn't you? You are just a fascist, aren't you? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Excuse me, are you by any chance Hama?

These guys said 'yes'.

Tsk, tsk. Shocked

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Getting ready to ship them off in the Cattletrucks, hey, Soren? I hear the Israelis have mastered the laying of temporary railway tracks for just such a purpose. I'm sure you'd enjoy driving the trains, now wouldn't you? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #72 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 2:04pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 1:14pm: