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Reply #60 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 8:10am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 9:39am:

Regardless of which side anyone supports, it seems clear now that Israel's ultimate strategic goal is to end Gaza and, considering comments about possible war with Lebanon from Israel's security minister, to end Hezbollah's control of Lebanon.

Their ultimate goal is to avoid another holocaust. If they were not Jewish would you be so eager to assign some kind of ulterior motive to their survival?

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Reply #61 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 8:16am

freediver wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 8:10am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 9:39am:

Regardless of which side anyone supports, it seems clear now that Israel's ultimate strategic goal is to end Gaza and, considering comments about possible war with Lebanon from Israel's security minister, to end Hezbollah's control of Lebanon.

Their ultimate goal is to avoid another holocaust. If they were not Jewish would you be so eager to assign some kind of ulterior motive to their survival?

Their ultimate goal is survival.

It's been fixed into Jewish-Israeli 'DNA' since 1948 that the state of Israel could easily collapse without Jewish hyper-vigilance.

It is a sentiment that is both close to the surface of, and bone-deep within, the modern Jewish psyche.

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Re: Gaza: genocide?
Reply #62 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 11:24am

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:37pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:26pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers. Cheesy

I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?

I already told you, id target hamas. It's not rocket science ffs.

How? What would be your plan?

Target hamas. What part of that is difficult?

They are, you don't like them doing it.

Not while Israel displays no intentions to ever implement UN res 242. That's why we need the US to show some moral backbone.

You still haven't said what you would do beyond your hypothetical UN that doesn't actually exist.

The question is WHY doesn't it exist....Doc Evatt showed the way but he was rejected, WHY was his plan for the UNSC rejected (ie no veto)?

Note: Meister thinks "instinct sensibilities" are "reason".... he is one sick bunny, revealing a very widespread illness.

So we are reduced to watching the slaughter of children which according to FD is not genocide.....it is dead children - 10,000 of them slaughtered since Oct 7th. part of the endless cycle of violence after the fumbled UN-enabled creation of Israel.

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Should the world make America have some "backbone"? How?

By the exchange of ideas; "Civilization is a race between education and catastrophe" HG Wells.

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Do you think we should let China make the world a better place?

We should not fall for US propaganda - determined to maintain US global hegemony - that China is a "threat".

The next few years will show which nation is most successfully (and sustainably) housing and employing its citizens.

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Re: Gaza: genocide?
Reply #63 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:07pm

freediver wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 8:10am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 9:39am:

Regardless of which side anyone supports, it seems clear now that Israel's ultimate strategic goal is to end Gaza and, considering comments about possible war with Lebanon from Israel's security minister, to end Hezbollah's control of Lebanon.

Their ultimate goal is to avoid another holocaust. If they were not Jewish would you be so eager to assign some kind of ulterior motive to their survival?

It isn't really avoiding a holocaust by creating one of their own against the Palestinians. All they are doing is to guarantee furure revenge attacks against them.

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Re: Gaza: genocide?
Reply #65 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:18pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:11pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 11:33pm:

No confusion.

How do you tell Hamas apart from others?

Explain.

You can't even tell Palestinians from Israeli's but they are not confusing them.

So you can't tell them apart, Hamas and non-Hamas.

But you want to end the rooting out of Hamas because.... er.... You really want to see the rooting out of Israel.

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Reply #66 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:22pm

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:11pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 11:33pm:

No confusion.

How do you tell Hamas apart from others?

Explain.

You can't even tell Palestinians from Israeli's but they are not confusing them.

So you can't tell them apart, Hamas and non-Hamas.

But you want to end the rooting out of Hamas because.... er.... You really want to see the rooting out of Israel.

Rubbish with a kill rate of over 1,500 to 1 they are not attempting to root out anything they are just murdering innocent Palestinians.

I don't want to see anyone treated like this. Catch and fully penalise the criminals on both sides.

It's not difficult to understand. It just isn't ok to murder innocent people of either nationality.

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Reply #67 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:28pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:22pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:11pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 11:33pm:

No confusion.

How do you tell Hamas apart from others?

Explain.

You can't even tell Palestinians from Israeli's but they are not confusing them.

So you can't tell them apart, Hamas and non-Hamas.

But you want to end the rooting out of Hamas because.... er.... You really want to see the rooting out of Israel.

Rubbish with a kill rate of over 1,500 to 1 they are not attempting to root out anything they are just murdering innocent Palestinians.

I don't want to see anyone treated like this. Catch and fully penalise the criminals on both sides.

It's not difficult to understand. It just isn't ok to murder innocent people of either nationality.

You forgot to explain how do you tell Hamas apart from others.

Explain.

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Re: Gaza: genocide?
Reply #68 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:32pm

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:28pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:22pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:11pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 11:33pm:

No confusion.

How do you tell Hamas apart from others?

Explain.

You can't even tell Palestinians from Israeli's but they are not confusing them.

So you can't tell them apart, Hamas and non-Hamas.

But you want to end the rooting out of Hamas because.... er.... You really want to see the rooting out of Israel.

Rubbish with a kill rate of over 1,500 to 1 they are not attempting to root out anything they are just murdering innocent Palestinians.

I don't want to see anyone treated like this. Catch and fully penalise the criminals on both sides.

It's not difficult to understand. It just isn't ok to murder innocent people of either nationality.

You forgot to explain how do you tell Hamas apart from others.

Explain.

You ask them questions, Soren? I know that is too difficult for Islamophobes like you. You'd just rather be like your Granddad and march them into cattletrucks on freight trains, now wouldn't you? You are just a fascist, aren't you? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Gaza: genocide?
Reply #69 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:36pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:32pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:28pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:22pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:11pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 11:33pm:

No confusion.

How do you tell Hamas apart from others?

Explain.

You can't even tell Palestinians from Israeli's but they are not confusing them.

So you can't tell them apart, Hamas and non-Hamas.

But you want to end the rooting out of Hamas because.... er.... You really want to see the rooting out of Israel.

Rubbish with a kill rate of over 1,500 to 1 they are not attempting to root out anything they are just murdering innocent Palestinians.

I don't want to see anyone treated like this. Catch and fully penalise the criminals on both sides.

It's not difficult to understand. It just isn't ok to murder innocent people of either nationality.

You forgot to explain how do you tell Hamas apart from others.

Explain.

You ask them questions, Soren? I know that is too difficult for Islamophobes like you. You'd just rather be like your Granddad and march them into cattletrucks on freight trains, now wouldn't you? You are just a fascist, aren't you? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Excuse me, are you by any chance Hama?

These guys said 'yes'.

Tsk, tsk. Shocked

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Re: Gaza: genocide?
Reply #70 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:41pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:22pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:11pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 11:33pm:

No confusion.

How do you tell Hamas apart from others?

Explain.

You can't even tell Palestinians from Israeli's but they are not confusing them.

So you can't tell them apart, Hamas and non-Hamas.

But you want to end the rooting out of Hamas because.... er.... You really want to see the rooting out of Israel.

Rubbish with a kill rate of over 1,500 to 1 they are not attempting to root out anything they are just murdering innocent Palestinians.

I don't want to see anyone treated like this. Catch and fully penalise the criminals on both sides.

It's not difficult to understand. It just isn't ok to murder innocent people of either nationality.

Can you explain your logic please DNA? How do you derive their specific intentions from the relative kill rates?

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Re: Gaza: genocide?
Reply #71 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 1:14pm

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:32pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:28pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:22pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 12:11pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2023 at 11:33pm:

No confusion.

How do you tell Hamas apart from others?

Explain.

You can't even tell Palestinians from Israeli's but they are not confusing them.

So you can't tell them apart, Hamas and non-Hamas.

But you want to end the rooting out of Hamas because.... er.... You really want to see the rooting out of Israel.

Rubbish with a kill rate of over 1,500 to 1 they are not attempting to root out anything they are just murdering innocent Palestinians.

I don't want to see anyone treated like this. Catch and fully penalise the criminals on both sides.

It's not difficult to understand. It just isn't ok to murder innocent people of either nationality.

You forgot to explain how do you tell Hamas apart from others.

Explain.

You ask them questions, Soren? I know that is too difficult for Islamophobes like you. You'd just rather be like your Granddad and march them into cattletrucks on freight trains, now wouldn't you? You are just a fascist, aren't you? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Excuse me, are you by any chance Hama?

These guys said 'yes'.

Tsk, tsk. Shocked

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Getting ready to ship them off in the Cattletrucks, hey, Soren? I hear the Israelis have mastered the laying of temporary railway tracks for just such a purpose. I'm sure you'd enjoy driving the trains, now wouldn't you? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #72 - Dec 14^th, 2023 at 2:04pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 14^th, 2023 at 1:14pm: