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Re: Gaza: genocide?
Reply #15 - Dec 12th, 2023 at 7:54pm
 
Gordon wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 7:52pm:
Palestine had one of the fastest growing populations on earth, 33% faster that Israel

Genocide?.


Another one who doesn't actually know what genocide is.

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.


How many more babies and pregnant women do you want to see slaughtered?  I'm curious.
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Reply #16 - Dec 12th, 2023 at 7:58pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 7:44pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 7:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 7:37pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 4:16pm:
Genocide doesn't necessarily mean killing every last person.

In fact, it doesn't have to involve killing at all.

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.


The IDF is quite obviously committing genocide.



Grin

And so is a schoolyard bully.


You think genocide is a laughing matter?   Undecided

Oh dear.



What is the korrekt response to the 7 October pogrom, repulsive, vomitous creep?  What would YOU have done in response, skincrawling, lying, repellent shite?



Easy.

Don't blow up hospitals and lie about Hamas hiding in them.

Don't murder children.

Don't murder pregnant women.

That's a pretty good start.

How many more babies do you want to see murdered?  I'm curious.



Yeah, yeah, yeah, creepy vomit, don't do this and that.

What would you actually DO, creepy lying hidiouness. What would you DO.

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Reply #17 - Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:09pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 7:38pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:21pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 4:27pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 3:55pm:
There are plenty of people who like to accuse the Jews of genocide. The facts simply do not support this claim. It is just more Jew-hating propaganda - an attempt to rebrand Nazism as woke by chanting idiotic slogans.




Yes, those idiots say, it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.
Their reasoning? Well, in the mid-20th century it was ‘powerless Jews’ being killed by ‘one of the most powerful states and armies’ – the Nazis. This time round, we have a ‘very powerful state’ – Israel – being attacked by ‘Palestinians who for decades [have been] under Israeli settler-colonial rule’. So it’s a ‘very, very different context’.

This is one of the most morally vacuous statements I have heard in a very long time. It is proof, surely, of the mind rot that flows from the Western identitarian obsession with power relations. For the truth is that on 7 October it was ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by a ‘powerful army’. In that pogrom, that moment, unarmed Jews were completely overpowered by a racist militia. Anyone who has witnessed the summary execution of two teenage girls at the music festival, or the bombing to death of an unarmed dad trying to shield his two sons, or the shooting of an elderly Jew in his kitchen, will know that, once again, yes, ‘powerless Jews’ were murdered for being Jews. No, it was not the Holocaust. Hamas, mercifully, is incapable of carrying out such industrial levels of murder. But the idea that ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 2023 is entirely different to ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 1943 is a wilful delusion born of brains poisoned by wokeness.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/22/accusing-israel-of-genocide-is-despicab...


"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" IS the call for genocide, as heard in every western city, from Sydney, Melbourne to London and New York.



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it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.


No people have from the start said that it was ‘horrendous’ - unqualified.

Though it is correct that there is no association with the Holocaust no more than their holocaust like response in Palestine is related to the Holocaust. That's just silly.

The proper response it to be critical of all the atrocities no mater who is behind them.

Here we have 2 wrongs and 0 rights.

How would YOU respond to 7 October, duckwit?




In the 17 years prior to oct Israel has killed over 6000 Palestinians as well as kidnapping over 60 minors and transporting them over the border

How do you suggest the Palestinians respond to those atrocities? Or is it only Jews that are allowed to retaliate?
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Reply #18 - Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:12pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:09pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 7:38pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:21pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 4:27pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 3:55pm:
There are plenty of people who like to accuse the Jews of genocide. The facts simply do not support this claim. It is just more Jew-hating propaganda - an attempt to rebrand Nazism as woke by chanting idiotic slogans.




Yes, those idiots say, it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.
Their reasoning? Well, in the mid-20th century it was ‘powerless Jews’ being killed by ‘one of the most powerful states and armies’ – the Nazis. This time round, we have a ‘very powerful state’ – Israel – being attacked by ‘Palestinians who for decades [have been] under Israeli settler-colonial rule’. So it’s a ‘very, very different context’.

This is one of the most morally vacuous statements I have heard in a very long time. It is proof, surely, of the mind rot that flows from the Western identitarian obsession with power relations. For the truth is that on 7 October it was ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by a ‘powerful army’. In that pogrom, that moment, unarmed Jews were completely overpowered by a racist militia. Anyone who has witnessed the summary execution of two teenage girls at the music festival, or the bombing to death of an unarmed dad trying to shield his two sons, or the shooting of an elderly Jew in his kitchen, will know that, once again, yes, ‘powerless Jews’ were murdered for being Jews. No, it was not the Holocaust. Hamas, mercifully, is incapable of carrying out such industrial levels of murder. But the idea that ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 2023 is entirely different to ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 1943 is a wilful delusion born of brains poisoned by wokeness.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/22/accusing-israel-of-genocide-is-despicab...


"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" IS the call for genocide, as heard in every western city, from Sydney, Melbourne to London and New York.



Quote:
it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.


No people have from the start said that it was ‘horrendous’ - unqualified.

Though it is correct that there is no association with the Holocaust no more than their holocaust like response in Palestine is related to the Holocaust. That's just silly.

The proper response it to be critical of all the atrocities no mater who is behind them.

Here we have 2 wrongs and 0 rights.

How would YOU respond to 7 October, duckwit?




In the 17 years prior to oct Israel has killed over 6000 Palestinians as well as kidnapping over 60 minors and transporting them over the border

How do you suggest the Palestinians respond to those atrocities? Or is it only Jews that are allowed to retaliate?

How would YOU have responded to 7 October, thicko.
Don't squirm, it not a complicated question.


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Reply #19 - Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:14pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:12pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:09pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 7:38pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:21pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 4:27pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 3:55pm:
There are plenty of people who like to accuse the Jews of genocide. The facts simply do not support this claim. It is just more Jew-hating propaganda - an attempt to rebrand Nazism as woke by chanting idiotic slogans.




Yes, those idiots say, it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.
Their reasoning? Well, in the mid-20th century it was ‘powerless Jews’ being killed by ‘one of the most powerful states and armies’ – the Nazis. This time round, we have a ‘very powerful state’ – Israel – being attacked by ‘Palestinians who for decades [have been] under Israeli settler-colonial rule’. So it’s a ‘very, very different context’.

This is one of the most morally vacuous statements I have heard in a very long time. It is proof, surely, of the mind rot that flows from the Western identitarian obsession with power relations. For the truth is that on 7 October it was ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by a ‘powerful army’. In that pogrom, that moment, unarmed Jews were completely overpowered by a racist militia. Anyone who has witnessed the summary execution of two teenage girls at the music festival, or the bombing to death of an unarmed dad trying to shield his two sons, or the shooting of an elderly Jew in his kitchen, will know that, once again, yes, ‘powerless Jews’ were murdered for being Jews. No, it was not the Holocaust. Hamas, mercifully, is incapable of carrying out such industrial levels of murder. But the idea that ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 2023 is entirely different to ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 1943 is a wilful delusion born of brains poisoned by wokeness.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/22/accusing-israel-of-genocide-is-despicab...


"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" IS the call for genocide, as heard in every western city, from Sydney, Melbourne to London and New York.



Quote:
it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.


No people have from the start said that it was ‘horrendous’ - unqualified.

Though it is correct that there is no association with the Holocaust no more than their holocaust like response in Palestine is related to the Holocaust. That's just silly.

The proper response it to be critical of all the atrocities no mater who is behind them.

Here we have 2 wrongs and 0 rights.

How would YOU respond to 7 October, duckwit?




In the 17 years prior to oct Israel has killed over 6000 Palestinians as well as kidnapping over 60 minors and transporting them over the border

How do you suggest the Palestinians respond to those atrocities? Or is it only Jews that are allowed to retaliate?

How would YOU have responded to 7 October, thicko.
Don't squirm, it not a complicated question.




I'd target hamas insteadof children,  womenand hospitals. . It's not that difficult.  Even an idiot like you could have figured it out if you pulled your head out of your arse.


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Re: Gaza: genocide?
Reply #20 - Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:16pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 7:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 7:44pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 7:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 7:37pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 4:16pm:
Genocide doesn't necessarily mean killing every last person.

In fact, it doesn't have to involve killing at all.

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.


The IDF is quite obviously committing genocide.



Grin

And so is a schoolyard bully.


You think genocide is a laughing matter?   Undecided

Oh dear.



What is the korrekt response to the 7 October pogrom, repulsive, vomitous creep?  What would YOU have done in response, skincrawling, lying, repellent shite?



Easy.

Don't blow up hospitals and lie about Hamas hiding in them.

Don't murder children.

Don't murder pregnant women.

That's a pretty good start.

How many more babies do you want to see murdered?  I'm curious.



Yeah, yeah, yeah, creepy vomit, don't do this and that.

What would you actually DO, creepy lying hidiouness. What would you DO.



Tell my military force to not kill babies and pregnant women.

You?
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Reply #21 - Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:18pm
 
I see the usual suspects have no answer. These are the useful fools who encourage HAMAS to continue using the vile tactics that have led to the deaths of so many civilians.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #22 - Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:23pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:18pm:
I see the usual suspects have no answer. These are the useful fools who encourage HAMAS to continue using the vile tactics that have led to the deaths of so many civilians.  Roll Eyes


Everyone here condemns Hamas unconditionally.

Now, how many more babies and pregnant women would you like to see the IDF murder?

I'm curious.

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Reply #23 - Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:26pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:16pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 7:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 7:44pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 7:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 7:37pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 4:16pm:
Genocide doesn't necessarily mean killing every last person.

In fact, it doesn't have to involve killing at all.

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.


The IDF is quite obviously committing genocide.



Grin

And so is a schoolyard bully.


You think genocide is a laughing matter?   Undecided

Oh dear.



What is the korrekt response to the 7 October pogrom, repulsive, vomitous creep?  What would YOU have done in response, skincrawling, lying, repellent shite?



Easy.

Don't blow up hospitals and lie about Hamas hiding in them.

Don't murder children.

Don't murder pregnant women.

That's a pretty good start.

How many more babies do you want to see murdered?  I'm curious.



Yeah, yeah, yeah, creepy vomit, don't do this and that.

What would you actually DO, creepy lying hidiouness. What would you DO.



Tell my military force to not kill babies and pregnant women.

You?



It is good to see that you bozos remain TOTALLY unserious, frivolous and stupid. There is nothing else for you, in your morally, intellectually corrupt, deformed positions.


It is futile to point out that Israel evacuated civilians but Hamas forced them to stay in in the line of fire. It is pointless to say that Israel evacuated Palestinian hospital patients, including babies, that they provided neonatal care to Palestinians even after Palestinians brutalized innocent Israeli women and children.

Being the irredeemable evil turd you are, you will parrot your stupid lies. That IS your role in life. It is is quite startling, turd - You live only once and you are a force for evil.

Let god have mercy on you, I don't.




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Reply #24 - Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:28pm
 
The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers.  Cheesy
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Reply #25 - Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:30pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:23pm:
Belgarion wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:18pm:
I see the usual suspects have no answer. These are the useful fools who encourage HAMAS to continue using the vile tactics that have led to the deaths of so many civilians.  Roll Eyes


Everyone here condemns Hamas unconditionally.

Now, how many more babies and pregnant women would you like to see the IDF murder?

I'm curious.



This is the sort of statement that encourages HAMAS to continue doing what they are doing. How does it feel to be responsible for all these innocent deaths?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #26 - Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:31pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:28pm:
The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers.  Cheesy

Yes, yes, yes, you are very stupid. We know. Everyone knows.

Say something that is NOT  stupid. Try.
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Reply #27 - Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:42pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:28pm:
The israeli terrorist supporters aren't interested in answers.  Cheesy


I'm interested in how you and Gregg would deal with it besides the usual list of don't kill anyone or destroy their homes and infrastructure but how would you go about it? You know Israel's capabilities, they could level the place in a week if they didn't care about civilians. They haven't. What WOULD you have them do? Tell us your plan to weed HAMAS out of the civilian population without harming a single civilian?
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Reply #28 - Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:44pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:12pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:09pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 7:38pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:21pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 4:27pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 3:55pm:
There are plenty of people who like to accuse the Jews of genocide. The facts simply do not support this claim. It is just more Jew-hating propaganda - an attempt to rebrand Nazism as woke by chanting idiotic slogans.




Yes, those idiots say, it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.
Their reasoning? Well, in the mid-20th century it was ‘powerless Jews’ being killed by ‘one of the most powerful states and armies’ – the Nazis. This time round, we have a ‘very powerful state’ – Israel – being attacked by ‘Palestinians who for decades [have been] under Israeli settler-colonial rule’. So it’s a ‘very, very different context’.

This is one of the most morally vacuous statements I have heard in a very long time. It is proof, surely, of the mind rot that flows from the Western identitarian obsession with power relations. For the truth is that on 7 October it was ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by a ‘powerful army’. In that pogrom, that moment, unarmed Jews were completely overpowered by a racist militia. Anyone who has witnessed the summary execution of two teenage girls at the music festival, or the bombing to death of an unarmed dad trying to shield his two sons, or the shooting of an elderly Jew in his kitchen, will know that, once again, yes, ‘powerless Jews’ were murdered for being Jews. No, it was not the Holocaust. Hamas, mercifully, is incapable of carrying out such industrial levels of murder. But the idea that ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 2023 is entirely different to ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 1943 is a wilful delusion born of brains poisoned by wokeness.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/22/accusing-israel-of-genocide-is-despicab...


"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" IS the call for genocide, as heard in every western city, from Sydney, Melbourne to London and New York.



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it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.


No people have from the start said that it was ‘horrendous’ - unqualified.

Though it is correct that there is no association with the Holocaust no more than their holocaust like response in Palestine is related to the Holocaust. That's just silly.

The proper response it to be critical of all the atrocities no mater who is behind them.

Here we have 2 wrongs and 0 rights.

How would YOU respond to 7 October, duckwit?




In the 17 years prior to oct Israel has killed over 6000 Palestinians as well as kidnapping over 60 minors and transporting them over the border

How do you suggest the Palestinians respond to those atrocities? Or is it only Jews that are allowed to retaliate?

How would YOU have responded to 7 October, thicko.
Don't squirm, it not a complicated question.


You are denying Israeli responsibility for Oct 7th,  and you are now complicit in the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

You aren't capable of processing reason; when I pointed out Jews accepted the partition plan - of course,....but the Arabs didn't - of course, it belonged to them since 600AD,  you just run away and hide.

Typical conservative denial of causation.

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Reply #29 - Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:45pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:44pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:12pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 8:09pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 7:38pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 6:21pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 4:27pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 12th, 2023 at 3:55pm:
There are plenty of people who like to accuse the Jews of genocide. The facts simply do not support this claim. It is just more Jew-hating propaganda - an attempt to rebrand Nazism as woke by chanting idiotic slogans.




Yes, those idiots say, it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.
Their reasoning? Well, in the mid-20th century it was ‘powerless Jews’ being killed by ‘one of the most powerful states and armies’ – the Nazis. This time round, we have a ‘very powerful state’ – Israel – being attacked by ‘Palestinians who for decades [have been] under Israeli settler-colonial rule’. So it’s a ‘very, very different context’.

This is one of the most morally vacuous statements I have heard in a very long time. It is proof, surely, of the mind rot that flows from the Western identitarian obsession with power relations. For the truth is that on 7 October it was ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by a ‘powerful army’. In that pogrom, that moment, unarmed Jews were completely overpowered by a racist militia. Anyone who has witnessed the summary execution of two teenage girls at the music festival, or the bombing to death of an unarmed dad trying to shield his two sons, or the shooting of an elderly Jew in his kitchen, will know that, once again, yes, ‘powerless Jews’ were murdered for being Jews. No, it was not the Holocaust. Hamas, mercifully, is incapable of carrying out such industrial levels of murder. But the idea that ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 2023 is entirely different to ‘powerless Jews’ being murdered by racists in 1943 is a wilful delusion born of brains poisoned by wokeness.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/22/accusing-israel-of-genocide-is-despicab...


"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" IS the call for genocide, as heard in every western city, from Sydney, Melbourne to London and New York.



Quote:
it was ‘horrendous’, on 7 October, but it was ‘not a crime related to the Holocaust in any way’.


No people have from the start said that it was ‘horrendous’ - unqualified.

Though it is correct that there is no association with the Holocaust no more than their holocaust like response in Palestine is related to the Holocaust. That's just silly.

The proper response it to be critical of all the atrocities no mater who is behind them.

Here we have 2 wrongs and 0 rights.

How would YOU respond to 7 October, duckwit?




In the 17 years prior to oct Israel has killed over 6000 Palestinians as well as kidnapping over 60 minors and transporting them over the border

How do you suggest the Palestinians respond to those atrocities? Or is it only Jews that are allowed to retaliate?

How would YOU have responded to 7 October, thicko.
Don't squirm, it not a complicated question.


You are denying Israeli responsibility for Oct 7th,  and you are now complicit in the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

You aren't capable of processing reason; when I pointed out Israel accepted the partition plan - of course,....but the Arabs didn't - of course, it belonged to them since 600AD,  you just run away and hide.

Typical conservative denial of causation.

"Deplorable". 

How would YOU have responded to 7 October, parrot.
Don't squirm, it not a complicated question.
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