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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 11 th, 2023 at 3:47pm: Frank wrote on Dec 11 th, 2023 at 8:08am: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 10 th, 2023 at 4:21pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 10 th, 2023 at 3:39pm: The outcomes proved what I was feeling at the time when conscription started. That thousands of young blokes will fight in Vietnam for a nation that didn't give a stuff about it, and which had to refer to a map of the World to find Vietnam on it. My parents sent me not one letter in the two years I was a nasho. My dad sold my vintage car to a scrap metal dealer. My Mum tossed out all my trade books. Other guys received Dear John letters. My girl friend went out with other blokes, my sister told me. Guys were jailed for resisting the birthday lottery draft. What I felt in the beginning, came to fruition
Australia only abstained from it's collective wanking about a communist threat when it saw children burned from napalm, village huts in flames, agent orange defoliation, body bags, etc
Another thing that played on conscripts' minds was fighting alongside a nation that had just murdered it's President, and killed his senator brother, then killed a prominent civil rights leader, as well as having major organized crime syndicates. Somehow Australia forgave all this, and expected conscripts to forgive it all too, to the point we had to give our lives for it, while the rest of Australia carried on wanking, scared of a non-existent communism
I had misgivings right from the start about us getting involved in that so called "Policing Action". I wasn't at all surprised we and the Yanks lost. Our military was still using WW2 doctrine, problem was, it wasn't WW2, that finished 18 years before
You were unusual in that you were a young Australian who was aware of what was happening half a world away, Bias. You also blamed a whole nation for the crimes of a tiny minority or a single person. I wonder why you hated America so much? As for Australia still using WW2 Doctrine, well it worked in WW2 so why not? We were fighting against a dispersed enemy, the NLF and PAVN, not the Japanese but it was happening in a similar environment. We were successful against the Japanese and we were successful against the NLF and PAVN, so much so that they were driven back underground, quite often literally. I trained to fight the NLF/PAVN, I often had to be part of mock-attacks against Vietnamese "villages" on Australian ranges, I had to conduct clearing operations against Vietnamese NLF/PAVN concentrations and defended locales, I had to conduct slow and long patrols. It was bloody tiring but it worked. When we left South Vietnam we controlled Phuoc Tuy province, not the NLF/PAVN. Yes, we were there for the wrong reasons but when we were there, we were effective. We protected the South Vietnamese population from NLF/PAVN depredations. We did burn those kids, we didn't burn those villages, we didn't kill their president. Tsk, tsk, tsk...   You are lying, of course, silly, vain, preening cockwomble. If you are 62 you would have been 14 in 1975 when the Vietnam War ended. Brian Ross Gold Member ***** Age:62 I didn't claim I was there, Soren, just that I trained in similar operations. Our training for COIN warfare did not cease in 1975, it continued on while the military sorted itself out and decided on Fortress Australia. A concept which you, of course, complete disagree with, preferring to fight "over there". Tsk, tsk, tsk... Of course you did, slippery little vain cockwomble. Your self- regard and vanity is limitless. You cant help yourself, you are lying, distorting, obfuscating.
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