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Nov 24th, 2023 at 2:07pm
 
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Archaeologists surveyed melting ice patches in Canada and uncovered dozens of ancient artifacts spanning 7,000 years. Photos show the “unique” — and perishable — finds.

After two winters with “extremely low snowpack,” researchers set out to survey several melting ice patches in Mount Edziza Provincial Park in the summer of 2019, according to a study published Oct. 31 in the Journal of Field Archaeology.

Mount Edziza Provincial Park is a volcanic landscape that is “extremely significant” to the Tahltan, one of Canada’s indigenous First Nations, the study said. The Tahltan have used the mountains for seasonal hunts for centuries and continue to do so today.

Previous scientists had located many “vast obsidian quarries” and obsidian artifacts in the park, but the nearby ice patches had not been studied as extensively. Researchers said they were intrigued by the possibility of finding perishable ancient artifacts preserved in the ice.

So as the ice melted under the summer sun, researchers visited nine ice patches — and found 56 perishable artifacts, the study said.

“Most of the perishable artifacts were manufactured from wood, including birch bark containers, projectile shafts, and walking staffs,” researchers said. Other artifacts were made “using animal remains include a stitched hide boot and carved antler and bone tools.”


Archaeologists found two bark containers with stitching. A photo shows one of these containers. The 2,000-year-old piece of bark is folded with two rows of stitching along one side and some of the stitching material still left in the holes, the study said.

The other “unique” bark container has sticks stitched into its sides, suggesting it was part of a reinforced basket used for transporting heavy loads. Researchers said it dated back over 1,400 years.


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Still things being uncovered by melting ice.
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Reply #1 - Nov 24th, 2023 at 4:31pm
 
That is nice—and understandable, right?

MWP—LIA—AGW or grow—freeze—thaw
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Reply #2 - Nov 24th, 2023 at 5:34pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 24th, 2023 at 4:31pm:
That is nice—and understandable, right?

MWP—LIA—AGW warming or grow—freeze—thaw



Exactly. Except for AGW. And yet you are so scared of the current thaw.  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

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Reply #3 - Nov 24th, 2023 at 5:38pm
 
It is thawing but it isn’t AGW.

Is it the fairies at the bottom of your garden causing the thaw?
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Reply #4 - Nov 24th, 2023 at 5:44pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 24th, 2023 at 5:38pm:
It is thawing but it isn’t AGW.



There may be some AGW. However it has not been quantified. You, for example, believe all the warming since before the Industrial Revolution, is AGW. Roll Eyes

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 24th, 2023 at 5:38pm:
Is it the fairies at the bottom of your garden causing the thaw?


No, it is your little faery farts. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #5 - Nov 24th, 2023 at 5:52pm
 
So no explanation.
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Reply #6 - Nov 24th, 2023 at 6:08pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 24th, 2023 at 5:52pm:
     Posted on: Today at 3:52pm
So no explanation.



You mean you don't understand natural variation? Oh dear. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #7 - Nov 24th, 2023 at 6:37pm
 
Has to be driven by something.

Remember, the Milankovitch Cycle should be cooling us—natural variation would have made us colder, not hotter.

TRY and understand the subject matter, lees.
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Reply #8 - Nov 24th, 2023 at 7:00pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 24th, 2023 at 6:37pm:
Has to be driven by something.



Nope. What part "The climate system is a coupled non-linear chaotic system" don't you understand? Grin Grin Grin Grin

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 24th, 2023 at 6:37pm:
Remember, the Milankovitch Cycle should be cooling us—natural variation would have made is colder, not hotter.



So Milankovitch cycles may be part of the equation. It has never been said it was ALL. Roll Eyes

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 24th, 2023 at 6:37pm:
TRY and understand the subject matter, lees.


I do better than you. You seem to think everything has been discovered. Roll Eyes
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Reply #9 - Nov 24th, 2023 at 7:10pm
 
No, things don’t just happen, there have to be forcings.

We know the Milankovitch Cycle is cooling the area north of 65°N. That area is the fastest warming area on the globe!

Natural variation explains nothing.
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Reply #10 - Nov 24th, 2023 at 7:15pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 24th, 2023 at 7:10pm:
No, things don’t just happen, there have to be forcings.

We know the Milankovitch Cycle is cooling the area north of 65°N. That area is the fastest warming area on the globe!

Natural variation explains nothing.



Any links for your above claims?
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Reply #11 - Nov 24th, 2023 at 7:30pm
 
“Physics for Dummies.”

That things happen is because something MADE them happen. Basic science.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 24th, 2023 at 7:30pm:
“Physics for Dummies.”

That things happen is because something MADE them happen. Basic science.



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Open “Physics for Dummies” you dummy!

Or refer to Newton’s Laws of Motion about an object in motion.

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Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 24th, 2023 at 7:36pm:
Open “Physics for Dummies” you dummy!

Or refer to Newton’s Laws of Motion about an object in motion.

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