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Reply #30 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 1:01pm
 
That is not what Feldman found:

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Reply #31 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 1:15pm
 
Why is the graph the shape it is, anybody?
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Reply #32 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 2:08pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 7th, 2023 at 1:01pm:
That is not what Feldman found:




Marty Feldman? Link?

Found it it a PubMED publication.

So he used TWO only earth bound stations and found global significance.

You do understand Science is a moving feast. Later papers carry more weight.  Wink
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Reply #33 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 2:10pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 7th, 2023 at 1:15pm:
Why is the graph the shape it is, anybody?



Up - do you have a link?

In this forum you need to quote evidence.
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Reply #34 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 2:27pm
 
Let Google be your friend and appreciate I am boosting your anemic post rate.

Now—why is that graph the shape it is? Anyone?
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Reply #35 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 2:29pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 7th, 2023 at 2:27pm:
Let Google be your friend and appreciate I am boosting your anemic post rate.


So tell us why an older paper is better? Wink

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 7th, 2023 at 2:27pm:
Now—why is that graph the shape it is? Anyone?


Because it is correlation. Roll Eyes

Did you ever think clear sky of itself causes warning. Less clouds more warmth. Roll Eyes
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From the paper - "We used the Line-by-Line Radiative Transfer Model (LBLRTM), which is continuously compared against other line-by-line models and observations."

Models all the way down. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #36 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 2:38pm
 
Only in CliSciFi are models observations. Wink
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Reply #37 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 2:39pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 7th, 2023 at 2:27pm:
Let Google be your friend and appreciate I am boosting your anemic post rate.

Now—why is that graph the shape it is? Anyone?


No Monk.

I shouldn't have to search with Google to prove or disprove your posts.
Try and be an adult.
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Reply #38 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 2:53pm
 
You cannot disprove my post. Feldman is easy to find, even lees managed it.

Now, why is the graph the shape it is
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Reply #39 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 3:02pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 7th, 2023 at 2:53pm:
You cannot disprove my post.


Only that it is, as usual, flawed. And published in a Medical Journal. Models. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #40 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 3:26pm
 
Medical journal, lees?

For the lethargic Mod of this MRB:
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14240

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Here we present observationally based evidence of clear-sky CO2 surface radiative forcing that is directly attributable to the increase, between 2000 and 2010, of 22 parts per million atmospheric CO2. The time series of this forcing at the two locations—the Southern Great Plains and the North Slope of Alaska—are derived from Atmospheric Emitted Radiance Interferometer spectra3 together with ancillary measurements and thoroughly corroborated radiative transfer calculations4. The time series both show statistically significant trends of 0.2 W m−2 per decade (with respective uncertainties of ±0.06 W m−2 per decade and ±0.07 W m−2 per decade) and have seasonal ranges of 0.1–0.2 W m−2. This is approximately ten per cent of the trend in downwelling longwave radiation5,6,7. These results confirm theoretical predictions of the atmospheric greenhouse effect due to anthropogenic emissions, and provide empirical evidence of how rising CO2 levels, mediated by temporal variations due to photosynthesis and respiration, are affecting the surface energy balance.
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Reply #41 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 3:29pm
 
When you have studied the paper Oh Wise One can you then explain the shape of the graph?
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Reply #42 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 4:22pm
 
Lees also eschews explaining why the graph is the shape it is.

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Reply #43 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 4:39pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 7th, 2023 at 3:26pm:
Medical journal, lees?


Yep.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25731165/
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Reply #44 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 5:00pm
 
First published in Nature, lees.

PubMed only published the abstract, not the whole paper.
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