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Reply #30 - Nov 5th, 2023 at 8:52am
 
Sophia wrote on Nov 4th, 2023 at 4:42pm:
And whilst I’m madly you-tubing enjoying randomness of songs past…

This by George Harrison… and I’m in a bit of shock… he passed in 2001? But… but… it only feels like …
… not that long ago!   Shocked
Anyway… I love the photos in this clip…George had a good looking ruggedness about him as he aged.





He was my fav too.
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Reply #31 - Nov 5th, 2023 at 9:37am
 
Sophia wrote on Nov 5th, 2023 at 8:12am:
Meant to add… it’s not a cheery song in its own, but more cheery than Now and Then.
For some reason, I could never make up my mind if I liked the walrus song or not, in fact it was never a song I purposely ever chose to play or listen to.

One song which for me crystalises the genius and originality of the entire Lennon-McCartney anthology is 'A Day in the Life'.

By the time it was written and composed, both of them had distinct styles and this song was a conjoining of two separate ideas for two separate songs which each of them couldn't finish.

It begins with Lennonesque dreamy, hallucinogenic imagery which gives a sense that the narrator has just woken up from a dream state and is half-conscious as he tells us, in hypnotic stream-of-thought, about events currently in his mind.

Then comes McCartney's urban, homely complacency where the narrator is simply starting an ordinary workday. This narrator then 'went into a dream' when 'somebody spoke'.

Then it's back to Lennon's half-dreaming narrator to close.

Each part is stitched together with the anxiety-raising orchestral glissando.

It seems McCartney never quite got over the originality of this collaboration, as its style reappears in some of his most famous and successful solo and Wings songs, such as 'Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey', 'Band on the Run' and even 'Live and Let Die'.
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Reply #32 - Nov 5th, 2023 at 11:02am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 5th, 2023 at 9:37am:
Sophia wrote on Nov 5th, 2023 at 8:12am:
Meant to add… it’s not a cheery song in its own, but more cheery than Now and Then.
For some reason, I could never make up my mind if I liked the walrus song or not, in fact it was never a song I purposely ever chose to play or listen to.

One song which for me crystalises the genius and originality of the entire Lennon-McCartney anthology is 'A Day in the Life'.

By the time it was written and composed, both of them had distinct styles and this song was a conjoining of two separate ideas for two separate songs which each of them couldn't finish.

It begins with Lennonesque dreamy, hallucinogenic imagery which gives a sense that the narrator has just woken up from a dream state and is half-conscious as he tells us, in hypnotic stream-of-thought, about events currently in his mind.

Then comes McCartney's urban, homely complacency where the narrator is simply starting an ordinary workday. This narrator then 'went into a dream' when 'somebody spoke'.

Then it's back to Lennon's half-dreaming narrator to close.

Each part is stitched together with the anxiety-raising orchestral glissando.

It seems McCartney never quite got over the originality of this collaboration, as its style reappears in some of his most famous and successful solo and Wings songs, such as 'Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey', 'Band on the Run' and even 'Live and Let Die'.


I enjoyed reading your narrative.
It is quite a contrast between John and Paul. Two driving forces in the group bringing variation.
It must’ve been a struggle at times with their opposite personas.
Dreamy Vs Down to Earth.
But anything hippy/weirdly/LSD mixed up at those times which didn’t make sense to the silent gen was readily accepted by the new boomer gen… music did go through a huge revolutionary change. I wonder sometimes if the frequency hz change may have had an influence into that direction.
Even fashion took a huge leap. I’m glad I grew up during the 60s and 70s era. And… you know what? The 70s fashion is back in again! My daughter goes into the chain of young fashion shops and takes photos of the clothes saying “Mum! Remember you wore this? Look, it’s back in fashion again …70s all over again  Smiley!”
Music too get rehashed.

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Reply #33 - Nov 5th, 2023 at 11:39am
 
Sophia wrote on Nov 5th, 2023 at 11:02am:
It must’ve been a struggle at times with their opposite personas.
Dreamy Vs Down to Earth.

If Lennon's famous interviews of the '70s and McCartney's of the '80s are anything to go by, their clashes were titanic.

It's hard to keep in mind, now that they've been deified and presumed to have had the wisdom of gods, that they were barely out of their teens when it started and not even 30 when it ended.

Lennon's and Harrison's resurrection in 'Now and Then', at maybe 26 and 24 respectively, next to McCartney and Starr at 80+, (old enough to be their grandfathers), how frozen in time Lennon and Harrison will always be and how frozen in time Starr and McCartney will also one day be.

The stuff that 'gods' are made of - hypnotising, compelling, charismatic, timeless, ageless... forever young.

With Lennon, ironically, maybe bigger than Jesus, as he 'foretold'!
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Reply #34 - Nov 5th, 2023 at 9:23pm
 
If you want to watch some Beatles nostalgia, then watch "A Hard Days Night" on SBS on demand.  Starring the original fab four and Wilfred Bramble. Smiley
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Reply #35 - Nov 6th, 2023 at 1:25am
 
Aussie wrote on Nov 4th, 2023 at 2:55pm:
I thought it was dull, boring and monotonous.

If you heard that being sung by some mob you had never heard of, you would stop listening pretty quickly.

I have to agree.  It's only been raved about because of
one thing—extremely competent marketing and
cross-promotion by corporate interests.   

Milk the cow = big dollars.

In actuality, it's merely typical of Lennon's "standard",
mournful, whining rock ballads—now fifty years out of
date, and ultimately... well... boring.

The poorly montaged, clunky green-screened clips are
the sort of stuff so-called rock historians have been
screening for decades, so, nothing new there. 

It's almost as bad as an old "Countdown" show from
1978 LOL.

If you wanna listen to some genuine period music, then
listen to the Stones "Love You Live" from 1977 instead.



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Reply #36 - Nov 6th, 2023 at 3:43am
 
The last words John Lennon ever spoke to Paul McCartney were "Think of me now and then, old friend".

This was a love song to Paul that the remaining Beatles have fulfilled beautifully.

What a magnificent swan song.



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Reply #37 - Nov 6th, 2023 at 3:58am
 
Aussie wrote on Nov 4th, 2023 at 2:55pm:
I thought it was dull, boring and monotonous.

If you heard that being sung by some mob you had never heard of, you would stop listening pretty quickly.



Whilst i think your critique overharsh, i agree that it's not a stand-alone great song. But why would you listen to it in isolation of it's context? It's the context that gives it is gravitas.

My son who is barely 17 stayed up to hear it's release. He's a massive Beatle's nerd. Owns everything he can and is forever playing strange studio outtakes at us. I recommend "Commonwealth", available on youtube or alternatively to be found in Peter Jackson's magnificent labour of love "Get Back"..

But this song, it's no.1 even though it's not fabulous. This is the legacy that endures that Beatles have left us with.
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Reply #38 - Nov 6th, 2023 at 9:50am
 
mothra wrote on Nov 6th, 2023 at 3:43am:
The last words John Lennon ever spoke to Paul McCartney were "Think of me now and then, old friend".

This was a love song to Paul that the remaining Beatles have fulfilled beautifully.

What a magnificent swan song.



Another all nighter?
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Reply #39 - Nov 6th, 2023 at 10:10am
 
mothra wrote on Nov 6th, 2023 at 3:58am:
But this song, it's no.1 even though it's not fabulous. This is the legacy that endures that Beatles have left us with.

That's true.

It's not even near their greatest, was written by Lennon very likely in a state of severe depression, its intent has been reimagined by McCartney, but it's a Beatles song.

From the online reactions, and from Beatles fans, it's almost like a 'Jesus moment' as in 'the second coming'.

I guess Lennon's memory really is bigger than Jesus... or at least just as big.

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Reply #40 - Nov 6th, 2023 at 10:42am
 
Sophia wrote on Nov 4th, 2023 at 3:04pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 4th, 2023 at 2:55pm:
I thought it was dull, boring and monotonous.

If you heard that being sung by some mob you had never heard of, you would stop listening pretty quickly.


It’s about the passage of time, and reflection, now and then, it actually made me feel a bit teary.
That’s how music is supposed to move us.
The video put together with past and present performances is so very well done. It captivated both past and presence beautifully.


Aussie (clearly) has no idea about stuff like this.

I bet Aussie doesn’t even listen to music.

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Reply #41 - Nov 6th, 2023 at 11:16am
 
Zero interest.....pretty much.
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Reply #42 - Nov 6th, 2023 at 1:25pm
 
Aussie wrote on Nov 6th, 2023 at 11:16am:
Zero interest.....pretty much.


OMG! I was right!

Aussie - what do you listen to when driving? What do you listen to when washing the car or when gardening? Everyone listens to MUSIC!

Then there’s BBQ’s, parties, get togethers...again 👉 MUSIC.

You can’t possibly be THIS boring ... can you?

I bet you can’t dance either 😳
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Reply #43 - Nov 6th, 2023 at 3:52pm
 

A brilliant - as usual - review from Justin:

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Reply #44 - Nov 6th, 2023 at 4:47pm
 
Well, that didn't take long!!!

Now and Then covers!!


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