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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17122 Gender:	The Beatles - Now and Then Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:17pm Once again, Peter Jackson proves he can resurrect gods.
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Sophia Gold Member Offline Posts: 9741	Re: The Beatles - Now and Then Reply #1 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:05pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:17pm: Once again, Peter Jackson proves he can resurrect gods. That was brilliant! So amazingly put together! Thank you for sharing Meister.
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Sophia Gold Member Offline Posts: 9741	Re: The Beatles - Now and Then Reply #2 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:14pm ….and, the story behind it all…
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Reply #3 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:31pm

Sophia wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:17pm:

Once again, Peter Jackson proves he can resurrect gods.

[]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opxhh9Oh3rg[]

That was brilliant! So amazingly put together!
Thank you for sharing Meister.

It has that driving rhythm heard on songs like 'I am the Walrus' - the sound that ELO made their own signature.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39828 Gender:	Re: The Beatles - Now and Then Reply #4 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:55pm I thought it was dull, boring and monotonous. If you heard that being sung by some mob you had never heard of, you would stop listening pretty quickly.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: The Beatles - Now and Then Reply #5 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:56pm Saw the doco about the making of this the other day. Brilliant. Although I haven't yet heard the full song, but what I did hear was very catchy
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Reply #6 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:00pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:31pm:

Sophia wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 12:17pm:

Once again, Peter Jackson proves he can resurrect gods.

[]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opxhh9Oh3rg[]

That was brilliant! So amazingly put together!
Thank you for sharing Meister.

It has that driving rhythm heard on songs like 'I am the Walrus' - the sound that ELO made their own signature.

I had thought that Now and Then had minor key signatures compared to an upbeat version of I am the Walrus. I checked out the music sheets and found all similar time signatures of many Beatles songs like Now and Then, I am the Walrus, etc and ELO also use 4/4 time signatures a lot.

The Now and then Song has A minor so it has a more mellow/sadder type sound, whereas Walrus song is mainly in A & E major so it has a more upbeat cheery sound to it.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 120612 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Beatles - Now and Then Reply #7 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:02pm Aussie wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:55pm: I thought it was dull, boring and monotonous. If you heard that being sung by some mob you had never heard of, you would stop listening pretty quickly. It is full of sad chords. What a pity that a more uplifting song was not written instead.
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Reply #8 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:04pm

Aussie wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:55pm:

I thought it was dull, boring and monotonous.

If you heard that being sung by some mob you had never heard of, you would stop listening pretty quickly.

It’s about the passage of time, and reflection, now and then, it actually made me feel a bit teary.
That’s how music is supposed to move us.
The video put together with past and present performances is so very well done. It captivated both past and presence beautifully.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17122 Gender:	Re: The Beatles - Now and Then Reply #9 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:06pm I watched some reaction videos to it. I felt slightly embarrassed for some of them - watching grown men from their 20s to maybe 60s cry and admit to full-body goosebumps listening to it. Although one thought there was something creepy about it, like watching videos of dead family members, I guess.
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Reply #10 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:06pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:55pm:

I thought it was dull, boring and monotonous.

If you heard that being sung by some mob you had never heard of, you would stop listening pretty quickly.

It is full of sad chords.
What a pity that a more uplifting song was not written instead.

There is also a version that is transposed into a C major chord with that song done by John Lennon at the time. I think the minor chord sadder sound suits the memories…since 2 Beatles have passed.

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Reply #11 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:06pm

Sophia wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:55pm:

I thought it was dull, boring and monotonous.

If you heard that being sung by some mob you had never heard of, you would stop listening pretty quickly.

It’s about the passage of time, and reflection, now and then, it actually made me feel a bit teary.
That’s how music is supposed to move us.
The video put together with past and present performances is so very well done. It captivated both past and presence beautifully.

If you heard that being sung by some mob you had never heard of, you would stop listening pretty quickly.

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Reply #12 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:07pm

Sophia wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:55pm:

I thought it was dull, boring and monotonous.

If you heard that being sung by some mob you had never heard of, you would stop listening pretty quickly.

It’s about the passage of time, and reflection, now and then, it actually made me feel a bit teary.
That’s how music is supposed to move us.
The video put together with past and present performances is so very well done. It captivated both past and presence beautifully.

Yes, I think it was the perfect grand grand finale to a 60+ year band career.

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Reply #13 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:10pm

Aussie wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:06pm:

Sophia wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 2:55pm:

I thought it was dull, boring and monotonous.

If you heard that being sung by some mob you had never heard of, you would stop listening pretty quickly.

It’s about the passage of time, and reflection, now and then, it actually made me feel a bit teary.
That’s how music is supposed to move us.
The video put together with past and present performances is so very well done. It captivated both past and presence beautifully.

If you heard that being sung by some mob you had never heard of, you would stop listening pretty quickly.

Point is, these sad sounding reflective songs do hit home with feelings, no matter who sings it, we can’t have all cheery upbeat music all the time.
I must admit I tend to like playing songs on the old goanna in the minor chords.
Just resonates with my soul.
You on the other hand Aussie… 12 bar walking blues types for you…jazzy too.

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Reply #14 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 3:16pm

One thing that stuck with me was a comment McCartney made in the lead-up to the song's release.

Something like, "I'm just so lucky to have had these men in my life".

Men? Oh yeah, I guess they were just men, but they have all long since been transfigured into gods living on their own Olympus, particularly Lennon, that it's hard to imagine them as just men.

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