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Reply #30 - Nov 9^th, 2023 at 10:15am

Meanwhile...

Dr. Berger is now in Melbourne.

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Melbourne. Ninth wave. The trams are packed. The ventilation's terrible. No-one is wearing a mask of any kind. I don't get it. Do people actually WANT to get COVID?

Probably not.

But, due to the total lack of health advice and now the 'hiding' of Covid cases, hospitalisations and deaths by our governments it's not surprising at all.

https://nitter.net/Goodintheweeds/status/1722379134402515110#m

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Misinformed population thanks to politicians/bureaucrats running the "it's over" & "it's only a cold" campaign. Economics usurped public health. They used acute symptoms as the bellwether for the disease. Respectable SARS-COV-2 researchers say otherwise.

Yes - this. 100%

But, hey... never mind... Christmas is just around the corner. Think of the economy!!

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Re: Another COVID-19 wave is coming
Reply #31 - Nov 9^th, 2023 at 12:20pm

oh dear carl

your hero is going to be deregistered for his ratbag comments

Dr David Berger has been told to pull his head in by the Medical Board of Australia who wants him to undergo a re-education course “in relation to behaving professionally and courteously to colleagues and other practitioners”.

His offence, according to the board, was his passionate Tweets, sometimes containing the odd expletive, critiquing public health measures,

no such problem for the highly skilled dr john gerrard

you are on the wrong side of history carl, associating with the charlatans

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Re: Another COVID-19 wave is coming
Reply #32 - Nov 9^th, 2023 at 12:37pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 12:20pm:

oh dear carl

your hero is going to be deregistered for his ratbag comments

Dr David Berger has been told to pull his head in by the Medical Board of Australia who wants him to undergo a re-education course “in relation to behaving professionally and courteously to colleagues and other practitioners”.

His offence, according to the board, was his passionate Tweets, sometimes containing the odd expletive, critiquing public health measures,

no such problem for the highly skilled dr john gerrard

you are on the wrong side of history carl, associating with the charlatans

Meh.

AHPRA's made a serious mistake in trying to silence Dr David Berger

Dr Andrew Miller

Dr Miller is an anaesthetist in Perth and president of AMA WA.

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15th July 2022

Dr David Berger has been told to pull his head in by the Medical Board of Australia who wants him to undergo a re-education course "in relation to behaving professionally and courteously to colleagues and other practitioners".

His offence, according to the board, was his passionate Tweets, sometimes containing the odd expletive, critiquing public health measures, dopey commentators and the politics of the pandemic.

This was the end result of an anonymous notification — or at least one where the 'name withheld from the registrant' — made to AHPRA

Doctors’ freedom to speak out on fundamental issues on public health, patient safety, ethical medical care should be sacrosanct.

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As reported in Australian Doctor last week, the sections of the AHPRA sanction make troubling reading.

It stated: "Dr Berger has made comments that disagree with politicians, government bodies and public health organisations, pharmaceutical companies and other medical professionals. He has done so using emotive and pejorative language."

"The terms used by Dr Berger often imply that the persons or organisations at issue are acting either deceptively or coercively and for motives other than the public health interest.”

It added: "When referred to in this manner, it would be reasonable for the reader to doubt the integrity of the persons and organisations targeted by the practitioner and to lose confidence in the public health pronouncements and programs promoted by them."

Politicians and their employees acting deceptively or coercively for motives that benefit themselves rather than the public? Say it isn't so!

Oh...

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no such problem for the highly skilled dr john gerrard

That's because he never responds to anything said about his obvious incompetence (and Annastacia also has him on a 'tight leash' like the rest of Australia's pollies do with their CHO's).

And, speaking of Dr. David Berger again...

Keep going! We're on the brink of hybrid immunity

Yep, any day now.

By the way, did you see this part?

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NSW Health
@NSWHealth
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Emergency department presentations for COVID-19 increased across most age groups, particularly young children and those aged 65-years and older.

Are they the same young people that you say need to "flourish" while letting the elderly die?

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 37828 Gender:	Re: Another COVID-19 wave is coming Reply #33 - Nov 9^th, 2023 at 12:43pm the regulator says he is a danger. why do you only believe authority figures when it suits your own conspiracy theory
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 119595 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Another COVID-19 wave is coming Reply #34 - Nov 9^th, 2023 at 4:22pm Vaccines? The ATAGI site in Australia said that they had done a risk/benefit analysis for the vaccines - so they acknowledged risk but said the good outweighed the risk. Many people died from the AstraZeneca I that had - 3 times!
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Re: Another COVID-19 wave is coming
Reply #35 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 7:06am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 12:43pm:

the regulator says he is a danger.

why do you only believe authority figures when it suits your own conspiracy theory

The important question here is:

Is Dr. Berger correct with what he's been saying about the sheer incompetence displayed by our governments and health departments in dealing with SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) resulting in nearly 23,000 deaths so far as well as countless hospitalisations and potential Long Covid cases?

The answer is a resounding "YES!"

And, he was reported to the regulator because he (justifiably) upset the likes of Nick Coatsworth, Peter Collignon, Greg Dore, Catherine "Bunker" Bennett and several others who have all been almost 100% wrong about everything they've said regarding Covid since the start of the pandemic (and they have been/still are too embarrassed to admit it).

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Re: Another COVID-19 wave is coming
Reply #36 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 10:20am

And... there goes another one. So predictable. Just as another huge Covid wave engulfs the country.

As at 1 November 2023, Northern Territory COVID-19 data is no longer published on NT Health’s website.

Are there any States left that are still reporting Covid cases, hospitalisations and deaths?

https://nitter.net/MosmanResources/status/1722765061570302445#m

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Hiding data is just amateurish propaganda. Most Australians expected better from Labor.

Yes, it is.
And yes, we did.

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Re: Another COVID-19 wave is coming
Reply #37 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 3:31pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 7:06am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 12:43pm:

the regulator says he is a danger.

why do you only believe authority figures when it suits your own conspiracy theory

The important question here is:

Is Dr. Berger correct with what he's been saying about the sheer incompetence displayed by our governments and health departments in dealing with SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) resulting in nearly 23,000 deaths so far as well as countless hospitalisations and potential Long Covid cases?

The answer is a resounding "YES!"

And, he was reported to the regulator because he (justifiably) upset the likes of Nick Coatsworth, Peter Collignon, Greg Dore, Catherine "Bunker" Bennett and several others who have all been almost 100% wrong about everything they've said regarding Covid since the start of the pandemic (and they have been/still are too embarrassed to admit it).

face it carl

you just want anyone who disagrees with you silenced but anyone who agrees with you , you cry foul.

its the height of hypocricy

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Re: Another COVID-19 wave is coming
Reply #38 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 11:59pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 3:31pm:

face it carl

you just want anyone who disagrees with you silenced but anyone who agrees with you , you cry foul.

its the height of hypocricy

Is that anything like what our governments are doing right now and have been doing for quite some time by remaining silent about the ongoing pandemic and the deaths and hospitalisations it is still causing?

With occasional messages from governments and the media of course that the pandemic is over but when it becomes obvious that it isn't (like right now) then they will say that SARS-CoV-2 is "just a cold", deliberately making it look like people such as myself who still mask and try to warn others of the ongoing danger are "anxious" or "nutjobs".

Here's another perfect example from NSW "Health" posted just today...

https://nitter.net/NSWHealth/status/1722735781670711522#m

See the graphic?

"Consider wearing a mask in crowded indoor areas and be kind to people who choose to wear a mask"

What sort of BS advice is that? In that case we should be kind to EVERYONE because EVERYONE should be wearing a mask in crowded places at the moment and for the foreseeable future.

The replies also make interesting reading.

Anyway, here's some more interesting reading regarding this week's Covid numbers (the ones that are not being 'hidden' so far):

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 9 November 2023

5,952 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

Australia's weekly reported COVID numbers: 10 November 2023

Change in reported weekly case numbers: 10 November 2023

New HK.3 COVID strain rises in Vic, hospitalisations soar

SA COVID cases spike by nearly 50% in one week

Oh, and...

VIC has added 54 new COVID-19 deaths in the most recent weekly surveillance report.

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Next reporting period will include at least 122 deaths, plus any additional deaths reported in the coming week that occurred between 4th October - 31st October

Wouldn't want to be in Victoria right now (eh, Bobby?). Mind you, the rest of Australia would/will be in the same boat soon if they're not already... no wonder they're in a big hurry to 'hide' the Covid numbers, especially just before Christmas.

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Re: Another COVID-19 wave is coming
Reply #39 - Nov 11^th, 2023 at 7:54am

Hi Carl
Can we agree that Elon musk is more intelligent than you

Elon just released some figures from his factory in China which employs 20,000 people
Not one member of his staff has died from covid
These aren't government statistics
He is simply showing who turned up for work

Please consider rethinking this mild respiratory virus which thankfully 99% of people now realize is a mild respiratory virus

Please reconsider using masks which cause your nasal cavities to fill with streptococcus staphylococcus pneumococcus and pseudomonas

The foremost deadly hospital acquired germs

Your advice is probably killing people
We probably need to report you to the health authorities for promoting misinformation
Just like your guru who has thankfully been silenced by those with more scientific knowledge

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Reply #40 - Nov 11^th, 2023 at 8:09am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 11^th, 2023 at 7:54am:

Hi Carl
Can we agree that Elon musk is more intelligent than you

Elon just released some figures from his factory in China which employs 20,000 people
Not one member of his staff has died from covid
These aren't government statistics
He is simply showing who turned up for work

Please consider rethinking this mild respiratory virus which thankfully
99% of people now realize is a mild respiratory virus

Please reconsider using masks which cause your nasal cavities to fill with streptococcus staphylococcus pneumococcus and pseudomonas

The foremost deadly hospital acquired germs

Your advice is probably killing people
We probably need to report you to the health authorities for promoting misinformation
Just like your guru who has thankfully been silenced by those with more scientific knowledge

Mild?

When it first hit Italy, 100s of young doctors and nurses died
when they tried to treat patients.

The first strain was a killer.
The mutant ones after that were milder.

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Re: Another COVID-19 wave is coming
Reply #41 - Nov 11^th, 2023 at 9:16am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 11^th, 2023 at 7:54am:

Hi Carl
Can we agree that Elon musk is more intelligent than you

Maybe. But, I'm pretty sure I would never pay 44 billion US dollars for something like Twitter and then proceed to destroy it like he's done.

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Elon just released some figures from his factory in China which employs 20,000 people
Not one member of his staff has died from covid
These aren't government statistics
He is simply showing who turned up for work

Got a link for that?

And if it's true then they must be the luckiest 20,000 people in China.

Can a Million Chinese People Die and Nobody Know?

Yes, I'm sure they could. And they probably did. After all, if stupid weak governments like the ones we have in Australia are able to 'hide' nearly 23,000 Covid deaths (so far) from the majority of the Australian population I have no trouble believing the Chinese government could 'hide' a million or more Covid deaths.

Some say it could be as high as 1.4 million deaths.

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Please consider rethinking this mild respiratory virus which thankfully 99% of people now realize is a mild respiratory virus

Saying it twice in the same sentence doesn't make it any more believable... and you should know by now that it is becoming more and more evident that SARS-CoV-2 is nothing like a "mild respiratory virus" and never has been.

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Please reconsider using masks which cause your nasal cavities to fill with streptococcus staphylococcus pneumococcus and pseudomonas

The foremost deadly hospital acquired germs

Not if you're wearing a high quality mask like the ones I wear.

Surgical "baggy blues" are not PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) by the way. They may stop an infected person from spreading the virus to some extent but they do almost nothing to stop the wearer from being infected.

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Your advice is probably killing people

lol... sure... here's some "advice" that no doubt killed many people.

No wonder Queensland was the first State to stop reporting Covid deaths earlier this year.

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We probably need to report you to the health authorities for promoting misinformation

lol again... go for it. But don't forget to report your hero "Dr." John Gerrard a.k.a. "Dr. Death", "Lex Luthor" and several other nasty but appropriate names first.

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Just like your guru who has thankfully been silenced by those with more scientific knowledge

Has he?

Dr. David Berger - Twitter.

Read his posts. Doesn't look like he's been "silenced" to me.

(I use Nitter because as part of Elon Musk's ongoing wrecking of Twitter he's made it almost impossible for anyone without an account to read anything. Nitter gets around that for now).

You may also find this interesting (but I'm pretty sure you won't read it).

And...

Bobby. wrote on Nov 11^th, 2023 at 8:09am:

Mild?

When it first hit Italy, 100s of young doctors and nurses died
when they tried to treat patients.

The first strain was a killer.
The mutant ones after that were milder.

He knows, Bobby. He knows. But, the "mutant ones" are not really that much milder judging by the ongoing huge number of deaths worldwide. Covid only appears to be "mild" now because it has already killed off millions of the elderly and vulnerable since the start of the pandemic.

But, as I've said before - I'm pretty sure he's just trolling as usual.

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AusGeoff Gold Member Offline Sage of Gippsland Posts: 6025 Victoria Gender:	Re: Another COVID-19 wave is coming Reply #42 - Nov 11^th, 2023 at 10:50am aquascoot wrote on Nov 11^th, 2023 at 7:54am: Elon just released some figures from his factory in China which employs 20,000 people Not one member of his staff has died from COVID... Nope. Musk never "released" any figures confirming this claim of yours. It's a fairy story.
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Re: Another COVID-19 wave is coming
Reply #43 - Nov 11^th, 2023 at 11:17am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 11^th, 2023 at 8:09am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 11^th, 2023 at 7:54am:

Hi Carl...

Please consider rethinking this mild respiratory virus which thankfully
99% of people now realize is a mild respiratory virus

Please reconsider using masks which cause your nasal cavities to fill with streptococcus staphylococcus pneumococcus and pseudomonas

The foremost deadly hospital acquired germs

Your advice is probably killing people
We probably need to report you to the health authorities for promoting misinformation
Just like your guru who has thankfully been silenced by those with more scientific knowledge

Mild?

When it first hit Italy, 100s of young doctors and nurses died
when they tried to treat patients.

The first strain was a killer.
The mutant ones after that were milder.

LOL... yes... One of our leading conspiracy theorists here,
Aquascoot, must be creaming his jeans at the opportunity
to fire up his COVID bullshit again with the appearance of
this new variant.

A "mild" respiratory virus that's already killed 6,937,303
people across the globe? Mild? What an absurd claim! This
is more than the entire population of Victoria.

I'm half expecting (dreading?) his tag-team buddy Sir Lastnail
to crawl out of his cave and stoke the fires of ignorance.

Angry

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Re: Another COVID-19 wave is coming
Reply #44 - Nov 11^th, 2023 at 11:48am

Carl D wrote on Nov 11^th, 2023 at 9:16am: