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Re: UK Covid Inquiry
Reply #15 - Nov 8^th, 2023 at 10:02am

This guy is a doctor in the UK so I'll post it here.

https://nitter.net/PrognosticChats/status/1721868821604995126#m

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This is what I have to send my Covid swab off in.
The level of cognitive dissonance is astounding as I enter a ward (with Covid patients on it) & there are no masks in sight.
Both of these things can’t be right at the same time. It’s either a biohazard or it isn’t.

Anyone care to explain it?

aquascoot?

aquascoot's maskless wife (working in the local hospital)?

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Be sure to read the replies as well.

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Re: UK Covid Inquiry
Reply #16 - Nov 8^th, 2023 at 10:11am

Hi there Carl you are a little slow in the uptake

As I posted in a recent study masks change the nasal microbiome
The nasal passages become infected much more readily with staph strep pneumococcus and pseudomonas

I asked my wife and she said these four bacteria are probably the most dangerous hospital acquired infections

Thankfully she and her colleagues have not been masked and therefore have not been performing genocide on the inpatients

Thank god people take their advice from the ultra-qualified Dr John Gerard
And not from some hypochondriac geriatric on the internet

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Re: UK Covid Inquiry
Reply #17 - Nov 8^th, 2023 at 3:20pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2023 at 10:11am:

Hi there Carl you are a little slow in the uptake

As I posted in a recent study masks change the nasal microbiome
The nasal passages become infected much more readily with staph strep pneumococcus and pseudomonas

I asked my wife and she said these four bacteria are probably the most dangerous hospital acquired infections

Thankfully she and her colleagues have not been masked and therefore have not been performing genocide on the inpatients

Good thing you're not in Victoria.

Immediate action is needed to reduce Hospital Acquired COVID-19 Infections and deaths

1st August 2023

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Dying from COVID caught in hospital

Data obtained from Victorian health authorities indicates that over 3000 people acquired infection with COVID-19 while in hospital in Victoria in 2022, and more than 10% of these (at least 344) died of hospital-acquired COVID-19.

No other state has publicly reported corresponding data, but it is reasonable to assume there would have been a similar picture of hospital-acquired COVID-19 infections leading to deaths nationally, as the systems and policy settings were, and remain, very similar.

A 10% death rate due to hospital acquired COVID-19 is much higher than death rate following wound infections, a measure of hospital quality and safety. The same focus that IPACs have on preventing surgical site infections should logically be applied to preventing COVID in hospitals.

But I suspect the death rate would be pretty much the same for the rest of the States if they ever decided to make the data public. Which they won't, of course.

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Thank god people take their advice from the ultra-qualified Dr John Gerard
And not from some hypochondriac geriatric on the internet

Every time I see or hear about Dr. John Gerrard, a.k.a. "Dr. Death", "Lex Luthor" and several other names that would probably trigger the forum word censor I immediately think of that other well known Queensland nutjob from many years ago, Joh Bjelke-Petersen.

"Don't you worry about that" Roll Eyes

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Re: UK Covid Inquiry
Reply #18 - Nov 8^th, 2023 at 5:52pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2023 at 10:11am:

Hi there Carl you are a little slow in the uptake

As I posted in a recent study masks change the nasal microbiome
The nasal passages become infected much more readily with staph strep pneumococcus and pseudomonas

I asked my wife and she said these four bacteria are probably the most dangerous hospital acquired infections

Thankfully she and her colleagues have not been masked and therefore have not been performing genocide on the inpatients

Thank god people take their advice from the ultra-qualified Dr John Gerard
And not from some hypochondriac geriatric on the internet

You do know how your anti-mask trend spread, yes?

Dear Leader didn't want to smudge his make-up.

All true:

https://newrepublic.com/post/175706/cassidy-hutchinson-trump-masks-covid-bronzer...

So now, here you are to this very day, complaining about nasal microbiomes and all the rest, all because your DL didn't want his orange foundation showing up on the white elastic ties.

We need to study him, no?

Five years is the minimum.

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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10121 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: UK Covid Inquiry Reply #19 - Nov 8^th, 2023 at 5:59pm ^^^^^^^ I do believe we have another post of the day candidate there from Mattyfisk.
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Re: UK Covid Inquiry
Reply #20 - Nov 9^th, 2023 at 9:27am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2023 at 10:11am:

Hi there Carl you are a little slow in the uptake

As I posted in a recent study masks change the nasal microbiome
The nasal passages become infected much more readily with staph strep pneumococcus and pseudomonas

I asked my wife and she said these four bacteria are probably the most dangerous hospital acquired infections

Thankfully she and her colleagues have not been masked and therefore have not been performing genocide on the inpatients

Thank god people take their advice from the ultra-qualified Dr John Gerard
And not from some hypochondriac geriatric on the internet

Staff don't want to wear masks (because they're "uncomfortable").

Hospitals don't want to pay for them.

Meanwhile, vulnerable patients keep catching Covid in hospitals and other health care places and getting sick and, in a lot of cases, dying.

I believe that pretty much sums things up.

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Re: UK Covid Inquiry
Reply #21 - Nov 11^th, 2023 at 1:59pm

Still haven't seen or heard a single word in our newspapers or the TV and radio news about the damning UK Covid inquiry where it was revealed that the government was prepared to let the elderly and other vulnerable people die from Covid as long as the economy was/is doing OK.

I've only seen articles at their online news sites last week which the majority of the population never see, of course (they know it and that's the only reason why they do it).

Perhaps our media (and the government) are worried that if the majority of the Australian population read about the UK inquiry they may finally 'join the dots' and wake up to the fact that our governments (Federal and State) are doing exactly the same thing and have been for a while now.

And it would be rather embarrassing if Australians started calling for a REAL Covid inquiry like the one in the UK, not the upcoming sham of an Australian inquiry with Catherine "Bunker" Bennett at the helm.

Or, heaven forbid, call for a ROYAL COMMISSION (which is what is really needed).

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Reply #22 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 10:33am

Still no mention of the UK Covid inquiry in any of our TV or printed news.

I wonder why? Probably because Australia has been following the same "let it rip and let people die (for the economy)" strategy (for want of a better word).

And, if you thought Boris Johnson was bad enough, have a look at this:

Rishi Sunak thought government should ‘let people die’, Covid inquiry told in bombshell claim

Sunak believed it was ‘okay’ to ‘just let people die’, according to diaries from the former chief scientific adviser in one of the most explosive claims yet

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Rishi Sunak thought the government should just “let people die” during the coronavirus pandemic, the Covid inquiry has been told.

In one of the most explosive claims heard at the inquiry so far, the now prime minister, who was chancellor at the time, allegedly believed it was time to “just let people die and that’s okay” in the autumn of 2020.

The accusation, made by former chief of staff Dominic Cummings, was documented in Sir Patrick Vallance’s diary. The former chief scientific adviser made the note following a “shambolic” meeting about Covid restrictions in October 2020.

If we had a proper inquiry (or preferably a Royal Commission) here in Australia I'm certain we'd be finding that our government(s) have been doing (and are continuing to do) the exact same thing.

After all, they've been doing it with the flu for the best part of a century now but with a much, much lower death toll, of course.

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36490 Gender:	Re: UK Covid Inquiry Reply #23 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 10:38am Why is that explosive It would be an explosive claim if he said We are going to pass legislation banning death That seems to be what you wish our governments to do Wish being the operative word
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Re: UK Covid Inquiry
Reply #24 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 3:49pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 10:38am:

Why is that explosive

It would be an explosive claim if he said
We are going to pass legislation banning death

That seems to be what you wish our governments to do
Wish being the operative word Roll Eyes

Annnnnd... aquascoot spectacularly misses the point as usual.

I'm sure it was deliberate of course but at least you're consistent if nothing else.

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Re: UK Covid Inquiry
Reply #25 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:11pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 3:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 10:38am:

Why is that explosive

It would be an explosive claim if he said
We are going to pass legislation banning death

That seems to be what you wish our governments to do
Wish being the operative word Roll Eyes

Annnnnd... aquascoot spectacularly misses the point as usual.

I'm sure it was deliberate of course but at least you're consistent if nothing else.

what point?

the majority of australians value a child way more then a nursing home patient

and so they should

whats wrong with you

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Re: UK Covid Inquiry
Reply #26 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:32pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:11pm:

what point?

the majority of australians value a child way more then a nursing home patient

and so they should

whats wrong with you

I'd like to see you locked in a (very large) room with the family and friends of the 23,000 people (6,000 in aged care) who have died from Covid in Australia so far and watch while you tell them that their loved ones' lives were sacrificed for the economy.

Especially the ones who died in hospital because the staff didn't want to wear a mask "Wahhhhh... they're too uncomfortable!" and the hospitals didn't want to pay for the masks.

Not to mention the millions who stand a good chance of being partially or completely disabled from the effects of this "mild respiratory virus" both now and in the coming years.

Yes, I would pay a lot of money to see that.

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AusGeoff Gold Member Offline Sage of Gippsland Posts: 6025 Victoria Gender:	Re: UK Covid Inquiry Reply #27 - Nov 22^nd, 2023 at 1:30am aquascoot wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:11pm: ...the majority of Australians value a child way more then a nursing home patient This is an absurd claim! One cannot put an equitable or objective "value" on any human life or lives. What evidence do you have that supports this? Any? I'm betting not.
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Reply #28 - Nov 22^nd, 2023 at 4:34am

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2023 at 1:30am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:11pm:

...the majority of Australians value a child way more then a nursing home patient

This is an absurd claim! One cannot put an equitable
or objective "value" on any human life or lives.

What evidence do you have that supports this? Any?

I'm betting not. Angry

do a poll

ask australians if they would rather their child died tonight or their grandfather

ask them

stop screeching and ask the question Roll Eyes

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Re: UK Covid Inquiry
Reply #29 - Nov 22^nd, 2023 at 7:07am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2023 at 4:34am:

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2023 at 1:30am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:11pm:

...the majority of Australians value a child way more then a nursing home patient

This is an absurd claim! One cannot put an equitable
or objective "value" on any human life or lives.

What evidence do you have that supports this? Any?

I'm betting not. Angry

do a poll

ask australians if they would rather their child died tonight or their grandfather

ask them

stop screeching and ask the question Roll Eyes

Shifting the burden of proof, a special case of argumentum ad ignorantiam, is the fallacy of putting the burden of proof on the person who denies or questions the assertion being made. The source of the fallacy is the assumption that something is true unless proven otherwise.

aquascoot is a master of this. Roll Eyes

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