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Reply #165 - Oct 18th, 2024 at 8:36pm
 

Australia could scrap its $368 billion plan to acquire nuclear-powered submarines under the AUKUS agreement, a respected US research body says.



https://www.9news.com.au/national/australia-could-scrap-aukus-plans-to-acquire-n...





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Reply #166 - Oct 18th, 2024 at 8:45pm
 
Thanks Bias - that's good news if it's true and we get out of the subs contract.
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Reply #167 - Oct 21st, 2024 at 5:58pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 2:47pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 12:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2024 at 1:48pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 16th, 2024 at 1:38pm:
That's what they are doing - BECAUSE they are not taking responsibility** for productively managing the nation's RESOURCES, which is what they should be doing.

Then you could stop worrying about the government mis-spending YOUR money.

**And they are not taking responsibilty BECAUSE neoclassical orthodoxy insanely insists the currency-issuing  government must tax and borrow money from the private sector.


It has bipartisan support -

both sides of politics agree -

we should be paying 9 times the correct price for 8 submarines.


OK, so how do you stop bipartisan waste of taxpayer money?

I'm working to educate the public re 'taxpayer money', and better management of resources. 

You?



The Governor General should step in and sack the lot of them
and appoint administrators who know about money.



NOW you're talkin' ....(even if the agreement is superficial, given your understanding of money...... )
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Reply #168 - Oct 21st, 2024 at 6:05pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 21st, 2024 at 5:58pm:
NOW you're talkin' ....(even if the agreement is superficial, given your understanding of money...... )



yes - we're at the stage where no matter how much money we make from
things such as exporting iron ore - you name it -
the politicians just waste the money on stupid ideas.
We don't need to pay 9 times the actual price for nuke subs.
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Reply #169 - Oct 22nd, 2024 at 2:58pm
 
How is it paid for? - borrowed money? - printed money?


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-22/australia-us-medium-long-range-missiles-d...


Australian government reveals $7b plan for purchase of American missiles for navy



By North America bureau chief Jade Macmillan in Washington DC

    Topic:Navy

8h ago


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Minister Pat Conroy said the missiles would give Australia extended-range air defence capability.


he federal government will spend $7 billion acquiring medium and long-range missiles for the Australian Navy from the United States.

Defence Industry Minister Pat Conroy said the Standard Missile 2 Block IIIC (SM-2 IIIC) and Standard Missile‑6 (SM-6) were the "most advanced air defence missiles in the world".

"We live in the greatest arms race in our region since 1945, with a high degree of strategic uncertainty," Mr Conroy said during a visit to Washington DC.

"You just have to look at the lessons from the Ukraine conflict to understand the importance of air defence and the ability to defend against missile threats."

The purchase of the missiles had been anticipated for several years, with Australia becoming the first country outside the US to fire an SM-6 during an exercise near Hawaii in August.


Mr Conroy said US congressional approvals had been granted, meaning the sale could proceed and the price tag revealed.

However, he would not provide any detail on when the missiles would be delivered, other than to say they would be "progressively deployed" across the Navy's Hobart-class destroyers.
Standard Missile 2 Block IIIC (SM-2 IIIC):

    Medium-range surface-to-air missile with an active radio frequency seeker
    Range of 166km
    Manufactured by US weapons producer RTX, formerly known as Raytheon

Standard Missile‑6 (SM-6):

    Primarily developed as an extended-range air-defence missile, but can also protect against ballistic missiles or hit a surface target
    Range of 370km
    Manufactured by RTX

They'll also be deployed in the future Hunter-class frigates, which are due to enter service from the early 2030s.

Defence's chief of guided weapons and explosive ordnance, Air Marshal Leon Phillips,
said the $7 billion spend was part of a
near $30 billion allocation for international "off the shelf" acquisitions.
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Reply #170 - Oct 22nd, 2024 at 4:10pm
 

What a load of bullshit.   Roll Eyes


https://www.defence.gov.au/news-events/releases/2024-10-19/australian-defence-fo...

Australian Defence Force Honorary Ranks for His Majesty The King

19 October 2024

His Majesty King Charles III has been appointed the Honorary Ranks of
Admiral of the Fleet of the Royal Australian Navy,
Field Marshal of the Australian Army,
and Marshal of the Royal Australian Air Force, by the Governor-General of Australia.


The Governor-General and Commander-in-Chief of the Australian Defence Force, Her Excellency the Honourable Sam Mostyn AC, said His Majesty's appointments were an important symbol of connection, stability and strength.

“Australians share His Majesty’s pride in the ADF, its sailors, soldiers and aviators and the loved ones who support them,” the Governor-General said.

Chief of the Defence Force Admiral David Johnston AC RAN said His Majesty’s Honorary Ranks reflected Australia’s close relationship with reigning monarchs.

“The Sovereign serves as an example of service, and His Majesty’s appointments are symbolic of the Royal Family’s longstanding dedication and relationship with the nation,” Admiral Johnston said.
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Reply #171 - Oct 22nd, 2024 at 9:09pm
 

What a bunch of effing wankers - giving awards to each other to impress the brain dead masses -

we're living in an insane asylum.
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Reply #172 - Oct 22nd, 2024 at 9:14pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 22nd, 2024 at 2:58pm:
How is it paid for? - borrowed money? - printed money?




Politicians always step out with a big smiling face as they tell us
about some new plan to spend huge amounts of money
but they never tell us how it will be paid for or
what cuts will be made to services to do it.

In this case - there was no investment in defence engineering here -
it's all paid to Yanky companies.
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Reply #173 - Oct 24th, 2024 at 5:09am
 

How the US military industrial complex is a scam.


Why the U.S. Military Spends So Much Money
The Pentagon Spent Over $900 Billion Last Year, Here’s How…
The US spends more on its military than any other country in the world.
But where does all the money really go?


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Reply #174 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 8:25pm
 
Pathetic security at Australian military bases:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-25/reece-sturgeon-kununurra-army-depot-sente...

Man jailed for breaking into Kununurra army depot and impersonating field marshal


    By Giulia Bertoglio

    ABC Kimberley

    Topic:Courts and Trials

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Reece Joshua Sturgeon broke into an army depot in Western Australia's north in February and
was there for two days before being arrested.

On Friday, Kununurra District Court heard the 42-year-old moved a vehicle and
told Defence Force personnel he was a field marshal on a "special mission".
What's next?

Sturgeon was sentenced to 21 months in prison and will be eligible for parole in 10 months.


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Reply #175 - Nov 1st, 2024 at 6:23pm
 
The hopeless management of defence assets.
Will China invade us now?
We only have one rusty old sub in service.



https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-01/one-australian-submarine-is-fully-operati...


Just one Australian submarine is fully operational
as aging fleet undergoes urgent maintenance


Exclusive by defence correspondent Andrew Greene

Topic:Navy

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In short:
The Australian Navy has been left with just one fully operational submarine as the rest of its aging fleet undergoes urgent repairs or await upgrades.

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Australia operates a fleet of six Collins submarines, which have been recently beset by problems including hull corrosion.

What's next?
The Albanese government is yet to comment on the limited availability of Australia's Collins-class submarines.


At present, Australia operates a fleet of six Collins submarines which progressively entered service from 1996 but have been recently beset by problems such as "unprecedented" hull corrosion.

Defence sources have confirmed to the ABC that two of the Collins submarines are currently stationed at Adelaide's Osborne shipyard, where industrial action is causing delays to extensive maintenance known as "full-cycle docking".

Another three of the country's submarines are at Western Australia's Garden Island naval base, but Defence insists at least one of those boats could be put to sea if urgently required.

In a statement, Defence insists it has "more than one boat available" for operations "if required", although the ABC understands at least one of those submarines is yet to receive its certification to return to service.

"Defence continues to meet government-directed levels of operational availability for the Collins-class submarines. Defence has more than one boat available for operations if required," a Defence spokesperson told the ABC.

"Owing to operational security reasons, defence does not confirm precise locations and availabilities of specific platforms," the spokesperson added.

In May, the Australian Submarine Corporation (ASC) told a parliamentary hearing that half of the Collins fleet would remain out of the water for the rest of the year with unprecedented corrosion problems discovered on two of the aging boats.
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Reply #176 - Nov 1st, 2024 at 8:38pm
 

'I wouldn't trust them to build a canoe!'

Defence Min David Johnston on Aus Submarine Corp


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Reply #177 - Nov 3rd, 2024 at 9:16am
 
We'll make shell and missile and maybe drone factories in Australia.


Oct 30, 2024

The Hon Pat Conroy MP, Minister for Defence Industry Capability Delivery & Minister for International Development and the Pacific Addresses the National Press Club of Australia on "Making Australians Safer: A Reshaping of Defence Strategy in the Missile Age".

IN FULL: The Hon Pat Conroy MP's Address to the National Press Club

1 hour and 8 minutes long




‘Fatuous and ridiculous’: Pat Conroy’s latest National Press Club address slammed





Full Transcript here:
https://www.minister.defence.gov.au/speeches/2024-10-30/address-national-press-c...
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Reply #178 - Nov 3rd, 2024 at 9:40am
 

see above.

Notice there was no talk of diplomacy to try and end the arms race in our region?
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Reply #179 - Nov 21st, 2024 at 10:29am
 
Defence chiefs fail the leadership test as troop morale plunges further


Defence personnel are losing faith in their senior leaders, with fewer than a third of soldiers and sailors now rating their commanders as effective, new survey data shows.

The 2024 “workplace experience” poll also reveals that despite years of effort to improve Defence’s culture, 37 per cent of personnel say they have experienced “unacceptable behaviour” in the past 12 months, including sexual misconduct and bullying.

The findings come as Defence faces a workforce crisis that has forced the government to spend $1bn on bonuses to stop its people leaving, and ask Pacific countries to allow their citizens to serve under the Australian flag.

The survey found just 29 per cent of army and 32 per cent of navy personnel felt their senior leaders were effective, down from 34 per cent and 42 per cent just three years ago.

Air force personnel were more satisfied with their higher-ups, with 37 per cent having a positive opinion of their commanders – a four-point drop since 2021.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/defence/defence-chiefs-fail-the-leadership-test-as-troop-morale-plunges-further/news-story/a4a291dcad093077f12ed26669c4b756
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