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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1680 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:02pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:13pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:56pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:32pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 4:09pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 3:29pm:

John_Taverner wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 1:20pm:

What we have here is the clash of two Semitic cults.

"These are biblical lands promised to us"

When it comes to prehistoric land claims, abandon all hope for peace.

If we've learned nothing else from the clash of ancient religious cultures, we should at least have learned that - it's what Gandhi feared would happen if India was ever partitioned - he was right, as it turned out.

Ancient religious claims and tenets are tenacious and, when woven into the social and political fabric of a culture, they can easily survive multiple millennia.

Israel is an actual, modern country, attacked by barbarians.

Israel ARE the barbarians

All nation-states are barbarian, when the cause demands it.

Crap. Not many nations have bombed thousands of kids.

Really? Read up on history.

Those states that have survived are those that have done whatever it takes to survive.

Statehood is not a god-given right, it is the result of its citizens' capacity to hold it together no matter the cost.

I don't give a crap about history. You've already been educated on the difference between the modern worlds military capabilities and that of yesteryears. Are you just slow or do you like being wrong?

Name a state that would not kill every enemy man, woman and child to defend itself if the need demanded it.

You been on the cool aid again? Is Israel defending itself from all those dangerous babies sleeping in their incubators? Or was it the kids hiding under their beds that scared Israel?
Cheesy

How many babies did the Allies kill when they bombed Tokyo, Nagasaki and Hiroshima?

How many German babies did the Allies kill when they bombed German and Italian cities?

How many Abyssinian babies did Italy kill when it invaded Abyssinia?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1681 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:04pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:32pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 4:09pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 3:29pm:

John_Taverner wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 1:20pm:

What we have here is the clash of two Semitic cults.

"These are biblical lands promised to us"

When it comes to prehistoric land claims, abandon all hope for peace.

If we've learned nothing else from the clash of ancient religious cultures, we should at least have learned that - it's what Gandhi feared would happen if India was ever partitioned - he was right, as it turned out.

Ancient religious claims and tenets are tenacious and, when woven into the social and political fabric of a culture, they can easily survive multiple millennia.

Israel is an actual, modern country, attacked by barbarians.

Israel ARE the barbarians

Unfortunately true of their government.

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MeisterEckhart

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1682 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:07pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:32pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 4:09pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 3:29pm:

John_Taverner wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 1:20pm:

What we have here is the clash of two Semitic cults.

"These are biblical lands promised to us"

When it comes to prehistoric land claims, abandon all hope for peace.

If we've learned nothing else from the clash of ancient religious cultures, we should at least have learned that - it's what Gandhi feared would happen if India was ever partitioned - he was right, as it turned out.

Ancient religious claims and tenets are tenacious and, when woven into the social and political fabric of a culture, they can easily survive multiple millennia.

Israel is an actual, modern country, attacked by barbarians.

Israel ARE the barbarians

Unfortunately true of their government.

Do you think Australia wouldn't target civilians in the event of an existental threat?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1683 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:07pm

Frank wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 4:26pm:

Everybody can have a country - Belgians, Tuvaluans, Kiribatians, Haitians, Bahamians, Barbadosians, Andorrans, Lichtensteinians. Everybody, no matter how preposterous.

Not the Jews who predate almost any people in existence with their own countries and who had a country where Israel is now well before most countries came into existence.

The Jewish people didn't have any country between about 200B.C. and 1948.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1684 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:10pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:07pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:32pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 4:09pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 3:29pm:

John_Taverner wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 1:20pm:

What we have here is the clash of two Semitic cults.

"These are biblical lands promised to us"

When it comes to prehistoric land claims, abandon all hope for peace.

If we've learned nothing else from the clash of ancient religious cultures, we should at least have learned that - it's what Gandhi feared would happen if India was ever partitioned - he was right, as it turned out.

Ancient religious claims and tenets are tenacious and, when woven into the social and political fabric of a culture, they can easily survive multiple millennia.

Israel is an actual, modern country, attacked by barbarians.

Israel ARE the barbarians

Unfortunately true of their government.

Do you think Australia wouldn't target civilians in the event of an existental threat?

I doubt that babies in incubators are a significant threat or innocent civilians for that matter. Maybe Israel should look at doing something about real threats. Maybe they could try going after Hamas ?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1685 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:12pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:13pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:56pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:32pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 4:09pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 3:29pm:

John_Taverner wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 1:20pm:

What we have here is the clash of two Semitic cults.

"These are biblical lands promised to us"

When it comes to prehistoric land claims, abandon all hope for peace.

If we've learned nothing else from the clash of ancient religious cultures, we should at least have learned that - it's what Gandhi feared would happen if India was ever partitioned - he was right, as it turned out.

Ancient religious claims and tenets are tenacious and, when woven into the social and political fabric of a culture, they can easily survive multiple millennia.

Israel is an actual, modern country, attacked by barbarians.

Israel ARE the barbarians

All nation-states are barbarian, when the cause demands it.

Crap. Not many nations have bombed thousands of kids.

Really? Read up on history.

Those states that have survived are those that have done whatever it takes to survive.

Statehood is not a god-given right, it is the result of its citizens' capacity to hold it together no matter the cost.

I don't give a crap about history. You've already been educated on the difference between the modern worlds military capabilities and that of yesteryears. Are you just slow or do you like being wrong?

Name a state that would not kill every enemy man, woman and child to defend itself if the need demanded it.

You been on the cool aid again? Is Israel defending itself from all those dangerous babies sleeping in their incubators? Or was it the kids hiding under their beds that scared Israel?
Cheesy

How many babies did the Allies kill when they bombed Tokyo, Nagasaki and Hiroshima?

How many German babies did the Allies kill when they bombed German and Italian cities?

How many Abyssinian babies did Italy kill when it invaded Abyssinia?

Again, you keep going back to WWII. Cheesy

We're in a different world. Israel can very well target Hamas without blowing up civilians. They can send a bomb through your bathroom window whilst you're on the shitter if they so wanted. The need to carpet bomb whole cities is no longer the only option in the modern world. It's the option terrorists take.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1686 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:12pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:07pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 4:26pm:

Everybody can have a country - Belgians, Tuvaluans, Kiribatians, Haitians, Bahamians, Barbadosians, Andorrans, Lichtensteinians. Everybody, no matter how preposterous.

Not the Jews who predate almost any people in existence with their own countries and who had a country where Israel is now well before most countries came into existence.

The Jewish people didn't have any country between about 200B.C. and 1948.

Nation-states are legal entities that exist because the world order wills that they exist and that they have defendable borders and that their history has proved their borders are defendable.

Other than that, territory is up for grabs.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1687 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:13pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:13pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:56pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:32pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 4:09pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 3:29pm:

John_Taverner wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 1:20pm:

What we have here is the clash of two Semitic cults.

"These are biblical lands promised to us"

When it comes to prehistoric land claims, abandon all hope for peace.

If we've learned nothing else from the clash of ancient religious cultures, we should at least have learned that - it's what Gandhi feared would happen if India was ever partitioned - he was right, as it turned out.

Ancient religious claims and tenets are tenacious and, when woven into the social and political fabric of a culture, they can easily survive multiple millennia.

Israel is an actual, modern country, attacked by barbarians.

Israel ARE the barbarians

All nation-states are barbarian, when the cause demands it.

Crap. Not many nations have bombed thousands of kids.

Really? Read up on history.

Those states that have survived are those that have done whatever it takes to survive.

Statehood is not a god-given right, it is the result of its citizens' capacity to hold it together no matter the cost.

I don't give a crap about history. You've already been educated on the difference between the modern worlds military capabilities and that of yesteryears. Are you just slow or do you like being wrong?

Name a state that would not kill every enemy man, woman and child to defend itself if the need demanded it.

You been on the cool aid again? Is Israel defending itself from all those dangerous babies sleeping in their incubators? Or was it the kids hiding under their beds that scared Israel?
Cheesy

How many babies did the Allies kill when they bombed Tokyo, Nagasaki and Hiroshima?

How many German babies did the Allies kill when they bombed German and Italian cities?

How many Abyssinian babies did Italy kill when it invaded Abyssinia?

Are you saying it's perfectly okay for Israel to slaughter newborn babies because other countries have done the same thing in the past?

Seriously?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1688 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:13pm:

Are you saying it's perfectly okay for Israel to slaughter newborn babies because other countries have done the same thing in the past?

Seriously?

As a gay man, I'm guessing you'd like to imagine the world is all about peace and love.

It would have to be for you.

You don't have family you'd defend with your life or whatever it took and you rely on others for security.

How many of you lot have ever stopped a war?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1689 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:25pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:07pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 4:26pm:

Everybody can have a country - Belgians, Tuvaluans, Kiribatians, Haitians, Bahamians, Barbadosians, Andorrans, Lichtensteinians. Everybody, no matter how preposterous.

Not the Jews who predate almost any people in existence with their own countries and who had a country where Israel is now well before most countries came into existence.

The Jewish people didn't have any country between about 200B.C. and 1948.

Nor the Belgians, Tuvaluans etc.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1690 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:26pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:13pm:

Are you saying it's perfectly okay for Israel to slaughter newborn babies because other countries have done the same thing in the past?

Seriously?

As a gay man, I'm guessing you'd like to imagine the world is all about peace and love.

It would have to be for you.

You don't have family you'd defend with your life or whatever it took and you rely on others for security.

How many of you lot have ever stopped a war?

Are you saying it's perfectly okay for Israel to slaughter newborn babies because other countries have done the same thing in the past?

Grow a set and answer the question.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1691 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:28pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:12pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:13pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:56pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:32pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 4:09pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 3:29pm:

John_Taverner wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 1:20pm:

What we have here is the clash of two Semitic cults.

"These are biblical lands promised to us"

When it comes to prehistoric land claims, abandon all hope for peace.

If we've learned nothing else from the clash of ancient religious cultures, we should at least have learned that - it's what Gandhi feared would happen if India was ever partitioned - he was right, as it turned out.

Ancient religious claims and tenets are tenacious and, when woven into the social and political fabric of a culture, they can easily survive multiple millennia.

Israel is an actual, modern country, attacked by barbarians.

Israel ARE the barbarians

All nation-states are barbarian, when the cause demands it.

Crap. Not many nations have bombed thousands of kids.

Really? Read up on history.

Those states that have survived are those that have done whatever it takes to survive.

Statehood is not a god-given right, it is the result of its citizens' capacity to hold it together no matter the cost.

I don't give a crap about history. You've already been educated on the difference between the modern worlds military capabilities and that of yesteryears. Are you just slow or do you like being wrong?

Name a state that would not kill every enemy man, woman and child to defend itself if the need demanded it.

You been on the cool aid again? Is Israel defending itself from all those dangerous babies sleeping in their incubators? Or was it the kids hiding under their beds that scared Israel?
Cheesy

How many babies did the Allies kill when they bombed Tokyo, Nagasaki and Hiroshima?

How many German babies did the Allies kill when they bombed German and Italian cities?

How many Abyssinian babies did Italy kill when it invaded Abyssinia?

Again, you keep going back to WWII. Cheesy

We're in a different world. Israel can very well target Hamas without blowing up civilians. They can send a bomb through your bathroom window whilst you're on the shitter if they so wanted. The need to carpet bomb whole cities is no longer the only option in the modern world. It's the option terrorists take.

If IDF really didn't care about civilians this war would have been over on 8 October with zero life of any kind in Gaza.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1693 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:26pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:13pm:

Are you saying it's perfectly okay for Israel to slaughter newborn babies because other countries have done the same thing in the past?

Seriously?

As a gay man, I'm guessing you'd like to imagine the world is all about peace and love.

It would have to be for you.

You don't have family you'd defend with your life or whatever it took and you rely on others for security.

How many of you lot have ever stopped a war?

Are you saying it's perfectly okay for Israel to slaughter newborn babies because other countries have done the same thing in the past?

Grow a set and answer the question.

That's enough self-fellating, creep. Desist.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1694 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:31pm

Frank wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:12pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:13pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 7:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:56pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:32pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 4:09pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 3:29pm:

John_Taverner wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 1:20pm:

What we have here is the clash of two Semitic cults.

"These are biblical lands promised to us"

When it comes to prehistoric land claims, abandon all hope for peace.

If we've learned nothing else from the clash of ancient religious cultures, we should at least have learned that - it's what Gandhi feared would happen if India was ever partitioned - he was right, as it turned out.

Ancient religious claims and tenets are tenacious and, when woven into the social and political fabric of a culture, they can easily survive multiple millennia.

Israel is an actual, modern country, attacked by barbarians.

Israel ARE the barbarians

All nation-states are barbarian, when the cause demands it.

Crap. Not many nations have bombed thousands of kids.

Really? Read up on history.

Those states that have survived are those that have done whatever it takes to survive.

Statehood is not a god-given right, it is the result of its citizens' capacity to hold it together no matter the cost.

I don't give a crap about history. You've already been educated on the difference between the modern worlds military capabilities and that of yesteryears. Are you just slow or do you like being wrong?

Name a state that would not kill every enemy man, woman and child to defend itself if the need demanded it.

You been on the cool aid again? Is Israel defending itself from all those dangerous babies sleeping in their incubators? Or was it the kids hiding under their beds that scared Israel?
Cheesy

How many babies did the Allies kill when they bombed Tokyo, Nagasaki and Hiroshima?

How many German babies did the Allies kill when they bombed German and Italian cities?

How many Abyssinian babies did Italy kill when it invaded Abyssinia?

Again, you keep going back to WWII. Cheesy

We're in a different world. Israel can very well target Hamas without blowing up civilians. They can send a bomb through your bathroom window whilst you're on the shitter if they so wanted. The need to carpet bomb whole cities is no longer the only option in the modern world. It's the option terrorists take.

If IDF really didn't care about civilians this war would have been over on 8 October with zero life of any kind in Gaza.

They're working their way up.

First, they slaughter the babies, then the children, then the women, and then they'll wipe out all the men.

It's all part of the strategically planned genocide.

The genocide you condone, and encourage.

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