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September temperature spike
Oct 20th, 2023 at 2:15pm
 
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Oops. The highest ever temperature is due to anomalous warmth in Antarctica, which was still way below zero. Roll Eyes

Or another view -

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Remember anomalies again, not temperature.  Wink
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Reply #1 - Oct 20th, 2023 at 2:40pm
 
Excuse my stupidity on this Lee.
But can you clarify it a bit more?
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Reply #2 - Oct 30th, 2023 at 10:24pm
 
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Reply #3 - Nov 6th, 2023 at 1:53pm
 
LOL, lee posts a globe showing high and very high temperatures all over the globe except for a slightly cooler area near South America and makes Antarctica the culprit   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Of course, lees does not give any evidence for his attribution.

Even UAH6 gives September a big spike up in temperature:
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Reply #4 - Nov 6th, 2023 at 1:54pm
 
WAY hotter than the last El Nino year, 2016.

The El Nino is tipped to grow stronger and last until the NH spring.

Wonder what Perth and Adelaide will experience? 46°C in Adelaide in 2016, 48°C possible this summer.
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Re: September temperature spike
Reply #5 - Nov 6th, 2023 at 2:30pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 6th, 2023 at 1:54pm:
WAY hotter than the last El Nino year, 2016.



Why don't you use REMSS anymore? You used to tell us it was so much better. Wink

Perhaps it is because they don't show it.

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Edit: El Nino aspect of NASA.

"By October 1997 and 2015, large areas of the central and eastern Pacific had sea levels more than 7 inches (18 centimeters) higher than normal. This year, sea levels are about 2 or 3 inches (5 to 8 centimeters) higher than average and over a smaller area compared to the 1997 and 2015 events. Both of the past El Niños reached peak strength in late November or early December, so this year’s event may still intensify.

“Every El Niño is a little bit different,” said Josh Willis, Sentinel-6 Michael Freilich project scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Southern California. “This one seems modest compared to the big events, but it could still give us a wet winter here in the Southwest U.S. if conditions are right.”

https://www.nasa.gov/missions/jason-cs-sentinel-6/sentinel-6-michael-freilich/in...

But perhaps you can tell us why a natural event is the only one where temperature rises? Wink

Edit two: The data is from GISS and then graphed.

"Zonal annual means, 2002-present, updated through most recent complete year: TXT, CSV"

https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/

Poor petal. Can't even do his own research.  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #6 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 4:14pm
 
If you look at your pretty graph you will see that temperatures fluctuate around a warming trend. El Ninos produce temperature spikes, volcanic eruptions and La Nina temperature drops but all over there is an unmistakable warming trend.

It is CO2 that drives temperature, not El Ninos.
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Reply #7 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 4:44pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 7th, 2023 at 4:14pm:
If you look at your pretty graph you will see that temperatures fluctuate around a warming trend. El Ninos produce temperature spikes, volcanic eruptions and La Nina temperature drops but all over there is an unmistakable warming trend.



And nothing to do with CO2. Wink It has been warming since BEFORE the Industrial Revolution. How do you explain that?

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 7th, 2023 at 4:14pm:
It is CO2 that drives temperature, not El Ninos.


Temperature drives CO2 at all time scales. Roll Eyes

So tell us why you don't like REMSS any more? Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #8 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 4:58pm
 
LOL, the Milankovitch Cycle started turning down 5000+ years ago causing cooling.

Wherefrom is this strange warming you babble about, lees?
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Reply #9 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 5:33pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 7th, 2023 at 4:58pm:
Wherefrom is this strange warming you babble about, lees?



Coming out of the LIA, but I repeat myself. Wink
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Reply #10 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 5:38pm
 
You said:
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It has been warming since BEFORE the Industrial Revolution.


I showed that that is untrue.

Warming since the IR due to CO2 etc emissions, yes.

Do you still maintain there was warming before the IR?
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Re: September temperature spike
Reply #11 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 5:45pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 7th, 2023 at 5:38pm:
I showed that that is untrue.


Nope. You have shown nothing.  Provide a link.
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 7th, 2023 at 5:38pm:
Warming since the IR due to CO2 etc emissions, yes.


So tell me about this fabled Greenhouse that doesn't have any winds, oceans etc. Grin Grin Grin Grin

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 7th, 2023 at 5:38pm:
Do you still maintain there was warming before the IR?


Yes I do.
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Reply #12 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 6:00pm
 
There wasn’t.

When the Milankovitch Cycle started turning down temperatures turned down with it.

Can you point out the warming pre IR?
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Reply #13 - Nov 7th, 2023 at 6:04pm
 
That's too bloody funny. The flawed Marcott et al and 2000 years per inch. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

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Reply #14 - Nov 8th, 2023 at 5:52am
 
CET shows warming after the LIA.
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