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Re: September temperature spike
Reply #30 - Nov 9^th, 2023 at 2:56pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 2:45pm:

As the Earth warms does the surface emit more or less IR, lees?

Yes. And when it cools it emits less. So there is no one figure that can be applied to the earth. Even though Climate Seance^TM says there is.

The Antarctic is cooling. The +6C shown for September shows why you shouldn't use anomalies. I know you believe in AGW, but why can't you tell us why we have cooling in the Antarctic. Roll Eyes

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: September temperature spike Reply #31 - Nov 9^th, 2023 at 3:11pm That is correct: as the Earth warms the surface emits more IR.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21502 Gender:	Re: September temperature spike Reply #32 - Nov 9^th, 2023 at 4:26pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 3:11pm: That is correct: as the Earth warms the surface emits more IR. But it is not warming evenly. And in parts it is cooling. So one model does not fit all.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: September temperature spike Reply #33 - Nov 9^th, 2023 at 4:29pm Is the surface warming, lees? Is the surface therefore emitting more IR, lees?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21502 Gender:	Re: September temperature spike Reply #34 - Nov 9^th, 2023 at 4:37pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 4:29pm: Is the surface warming, lees? Is the surface therefore emitting more IR, lees? Is the sun shining? Will the earth continue to emit IR after the sun goes dark?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: September temperature spike Reply #35 - Nov 9^th, 2023 at 4:51pm I accept your surrender.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21502 Gender:	Re: September temperature spike Reply #36 - Nov 9^th, 2023 at 5:07pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 4:51pm: I accept your surrender. I answered your question. No surrender involved. lee wrote on Nov 9^th, 2023 at 4:26pm: But it is not warming evenly. You have an attribution problem where only anomalies count and the w/m² is the same globally.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: September temperature spike Reply #37 - Nov 9^th, 2023 at 5:09pm You did not answer my question. Have you desperately started reading the paper you cited?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21502 Gender:	Re: September temperature spike Reply #38 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 11:52am Have you worked out why DLR has been going down?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: September temperature spike Reply #39 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 12:12pm That is not what the paper was about, as I have told you before.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21502 Gender:	Re: September temperature spike Reply #40 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 2:41pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 12:12pm: That is not what the paper was about, as I have told you before. And I told you, have a look at the results. Results (experiments) count. The results show your theory at least partially wrong.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: September temperature spike Reply #41 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 3:54pm That is not what the paper was about, as I have told you before. You will have to read the actual paper, lees. Hotter surface temperature so more IR, CO2 continuing to rise so what you think the paper shows is impossible. READ the actual paper, lees.
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Re: September temperature spike
Reply #42 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 5:31pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 3:54pm:

That is not what the paper was about, as I have told you before.

But that was a conclusion Yes? Roll Eyes

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 3:54pm:

Hotter surface temperature so more IR, CO2 continuing to rise so what you think the paper shows is impossible.

No. according to CO2 theory it should go up. Why is it not. Earth's temperature has increased minimally. Do you expect a big jump in temperature? Can it be sorted from the noise? Roll Eyes

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: September temperature spike Reply #43 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 5:46pm It is not “CO₂ theory” but quantum mechanics. So back radiation can’t be decreasing. Read the paper, lees.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21502 Gender:	Re: September temperature spike Reply #44 - Nov 10^th, 2023 at 6:41pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 10^th, 2023 at 5:46pm: So back radiation can’t be decreasing. And yet that's what the graph shows. PS. I didn't know you were an expert on Quantum Mechanics as well.
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