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Reply #540 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 7:50am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2025 at 8:53pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 26^th, 2025 at 8:48pm:

I have quoted it several times for you already:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 17^th, 2025 at 3:53pm:

Over 3 million European Jews migrated to Palestine/Israel from 1945 to the present day…

If it is not a lie about Jews being spread by terrorism supporters, why did you post it in the thread about terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews?

Also, where did you get it from?

How is that a statement in support of terrorism?

Regardless of their origin, under Israeli and international law, they are Israelis.

You made a false accusation.

Which part is false?

Are you saying you cannot understand how telling this lie about European Jewish migration into Israel helps to support Hamas?

Are you embarrassed to say where you got it because you got it from Hamas' email list?

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #541 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 8:01am

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 7:50am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2025 at 8:53pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 26^th, 2025 at 8:48pm:

I have quoted it several times for you already:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 17^th, 2025 at 3:53pm:

Over 3 million European Jews migrated to Palestine/Israel from 1945 to the present day…

If it is not a lie about Jews being spread by terrorism supporters, why did you post it in the thread about terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews?

Also, where did you get it from?

How is that a statement in support of terrorism?

Regardless of their origin, under Israeli and international law, they are Israelis.

You made a false accusation.

Which part is false?

Are you saying you cannot understand how telling this lie about European Jewish migration into Israel helps to support Hamas?

Are you embarrassed to say where you got it because you got it from Hamas' email list?

See, this is where you prove you shouldn't be posting on a political forum.

Firstly, it's not a lie and can be easily verified... Israeli demographics are easily sourced online.

Secondly, Israeli demographics have nothing to do with supporting terrorism. For one, all Jews in Israel in 1948 automatically became Israelis regardless of their origin, and the Law of Return granted Israeli citizenship to the Jewish diaspora on verification that they are Jews, making their original nationality irrelevant.

Thirdly, you make false accusations online about others supporting terrorism, which is an offence in itself.

You will now have to state in your defence how Israeli demographics - whether accurate or inaccurate - can credibly support terrorism, and that you had no practical means at your disposal of disabusing yourself of that belief.

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #542 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 8:10am

I've said this previously, but it's worth repeating...

Jews hide nothing of their history and admit everything to themselves and to the world. They're not hypocrites in that regard.

Israeli students learn from a young age the, warts and all, history of Israel's establishment, including the actions of two of their most infamous prime ministers - Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir. However, it is always taught in the context of the sustained European persecution of Jews, the origins of which even ancient historians and ancient Christian writers document thoroughly.

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Reply #543 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 8:18am

Also, to date, all Israeli leaders make no secret of the Israeli mission to establish a greater Israel across the entire region, covering ancient Jewish lands - including the West Bank, which was part of Judea and Samaria.

Hence, Jewish settlements in the West Bank being endorsed by every Israeli government of the day.

No Israeli government has denied this, nor do they apologise for it.

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #544 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 8:32am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 8:01am:

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 7:50am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2025 at 8:53pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 26^th, 2025 at 8:48pm:

I have quoted it several times for you already:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 17^th, 2025 at 3:53pm:

Over 3 million European Jews migrated to Palestine/Israel from 1945 to the present day…

If it is not a lie about Jews being spread by terrorism supporters, why did you post it in the thread about terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews?

Also, where did you get it from?

How is that a statement in support of terrorism?

Regardless of their origin, under Israeli and international law, they are Israelis.

You made a false accusation.

Which part is false?

Are you saying you cannot understand how telling this lie about European Jewish migration into Israel helps to support Hamas?

Are you embarrassed to say where you got it because you got it from Hamas' email list?

See, this is where you prove you shouldn't be posting on a political forum.

Firstly, it's not a lie and can be easily verified... Israeli demographics are easily sourced online.

Secondly, Israeli demographics have nothing to do with supporting terrorism. For one, all Jews in Israel in 1948 automatically became Israelis regardless of their origin, and the Law of Return granted Israeli citizenship to the Jewish diaspora on verification that they are Jews, making their original nationality irrelevant.

Thirdly, you make false accusations online about others supporting terrorism, which is an offence in itself.

You will now have to state in your defence how Israeli demographics - whether accurate or inaccurate - can credibly support terrorism, and that you had no practical means at your disposal of disabusing yourself of that belief.

If they have nothing to do with supporting terrorism, why did you post those demographics in an attempt to justify the terrorism?

Are you embarrassed to reveal your source because you got the claim from Hamas' email list?

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #545 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 8:34am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 8:18am:

Also, to date, all Israeli leaders make no secret of the Israeli mission to establish a greater Israel across the entire region, covering ancient Jewish lands - including the West Bank, which was part of Judea and Samaria.

Hence, Jewish settlements in the West Bank being endorsed by every Israeli government of the day.

No Israeli government has denied this, nor do they apologise for it.

This is the primary ideological reason why Israel's current prime minister, and likely all future ones, is vehemently opposed to the establishment of a Palestinian state physically located on ancient Jewish lands.

That the establishment of the state, interspersed among parts of Israel as defined in UN Resolutions 181 and 242, would obviously pose a massive security threat, is his immediate practical concern and why he will vehemently oppose all countries that recognise the existence of the State of Palestine.

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #546 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 8:36am

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 8:32am:

If they have nothing to do with supporting terrorism, why did you post those demographics in an attempt to justify the terrorism?

Now you will need to demonstrate that I attempted to use Israeli demographics to justify terrorism, or further incriminate yourself.

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #548 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 8:42am

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 8:38am:

Are you embarrassed to reveal your source because you got the claim from Hamas' email list?

You are further incriminating yourself...

It is an offence to source, or attempt to knowingly source online terrorist information.

You can tell it to the judge if you like...

Of course, you will have to demonstrate to the court's satisfaction that you, as an online forum owner and contributor, had no practical means of sourcing information on Israeli demographics - that your skill level did not include using online search engines or AI.

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #550 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 9:03am

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 8:59am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 17^th, 2025 at 3:53pm:

Over 3 million European Jews migrated to Palestine/Israel from 1945 to the present day…

I am not asking you for legal advice Meister. I am asking you whether you got this claim from Hamas' email list. Did you?

No, you'd need a lawyer for that.

You're not asking whether I knowingly sourced online terrorist information; you're suggesting that I did.

Which is even further self-incrimination.

It is an offence to disseminate terrorist information.

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #551 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 9:06am

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You're not asking whether I knowingly sourced online terrorist information

Can you explain why you think the number of Jewish migrants from Europe to Israel is "terrorist information"?

Also, if you think it is terrorist information, why do you also insist that spreading this lie does not support terrorist organisations, regardless of whether it is true or not?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 17^th, 2025 at 3:53pm:

Over 3 million European Jews migrated to Palestine/Israel from 1945 to the present day…

Did you get this claim from Hamas' email list?

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #552 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 9:10am

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 9:06am:

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You're not asking whether I knowingly sourced online terrorist information

Can you explain why you think the number of Jewish migrants from Europe to Israel is "terrorist information"?

Also, if you think it is terrorist information, why do you also insist that spreading this lie does not support terrorist organisations, regardless of whether it is true or not?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 17^th, 2025 at 3:53pm:

Over 3 million European Jews migrated to Palestine/Israel from 1945 to the present day…

Did you get this claim from Hamas' email list?

I'm not suggesting that it is terrorist information; you are.

It's too late to restate the question of the source of my Israeli demographics... you've already suggested where I sourced it.

Given that it's easily sourced from the Israeli government, you're going to need to demonstrate that I could only have sourced it from a terrorist organisation.

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #553 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 9:13am

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I'm not suggesting that it is terrorist information; you are.

You are the only person who has even used the term "terrorist information" in this thread. Which is why I am strongly suggesting to you that no-one is seeking your legal advice.

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It's too late to restate the question of the source of my Israeli demographics...

It's never too late Meister. Watch this.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 17^th, 2025 at 3:53pm:

Over 3 million European Jews migrated to Palestine/Israel from 1945 to the present day…

Did you get this claim from Hamas' email list?

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #554 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 9:20am

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 9:13am:

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I'm not suggesting that it is terrorist information; you are.

You are the only person who has even used the term "terrorist information" in this thread. Which is why I am strongly suggesting to you that no-one is seeking your legal advice.

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It's too late to restate the question of the source of my Israeli demographics...

It's never too late Meister. Watch this.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 17^th, 2025 at 3:53pm:

Over 3 million European Jews migrated to Palestine/Israel from 1945 to the present day…

Did you get this claim from Hamas' email list?

No, you have suggested that I sourced Israeli demographics from a terrorist organisation, i.e. Hamas.

Unfortunately, it is too late... continual reiteration of the non-accusatory version of the question does not negate your posting of the original accusatory question - that is now fixed in time from an evidential perspective.

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