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Reply #600 - Nov 22nd, 2023 at 7:50pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2023 at 7:41pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 22nd, 2023 at 5:05pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2023 at 8:06am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 21st, 2023 at 9:38am:
freediver wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:40pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 12:05pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:19am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 19th, 2023 at 4:36pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 6:59am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 10:06am:
freediver wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 5:56am:
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Causing the endless cycle of violence


It is not cyclic. They are just very persistent. It's the same genocide the Muslims have been attempting for 7 decades.


No insight, as usual.

The influx of Jews into Palestine in the 20th century, as a result of British machinations during the Mandate period (reneging on Lawrence's assurances to the Arabs),  led to war as soon as the UN voted to partition Palestine BECAUSE the Zionists knew they were the stronger party and decided not to "wait for the UN to get it's paperwork in order" (your words).

This is the beginning of the cycle of violence.

Which can only be ended by implementation of UN 242, with security of both states guaranteed by the UNSC (aka rule of law

(Or enabling the return of Palestinians to their homes in a new 'Pal-Israel' state....but people are too committed to their respective delusional ideologies). 


The biggest influx of Jews into Israel came from other middle eastern countries, who were attempting to celebrate the European holocaust by having one of their own.



Interesting narrative - but false, as usual - which is why you didn't back it up, cf the reality of British connivance re Lawrences promises to the Arabs in Palestine, before the holocaust.   


Why is it wrong?


Already explained: Zionists started to emigrate to Palestine during the British mandate, with British connivance, BEFORE the European holocaust happened - impossible for ME countries  to be "attempting to celebrate the European holocaust" before it happened. You might like to try another narrative, to see if it can fly....

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Are you suggesting the Muslims tried to wipe out the middle eastern Jews because of Lawrence of Arabia?


No.


Obviously Muslims attempted to celebrate the European holocaust after it happened, not before. This does not contradict what I said.


It ignores what I said: the cycle of violence in Palestine started with the influx of Zionists under the British Mandate.

The way to end it is Palestine established alongside Israel, security guanranteed by the UNSC.

It happened already. It is called Jordan.



Wrong as usual..or just sneaky.....

Jordan already existed when the UN voted to partition the British Palestine Mandate, and the WB was not part of it.

"The Arab state (Palestine) whose creation was envisioned by the 1947 UN partition plan never came into being, and the West Bank was formally annexed by Jordan on April 24, 1950, although this annexation was recognized only by Great Britain and Pakistan." 

Laughable, ignorant idiot.


You forgot to back your ad hominem, as usual.

That I easily exposed your error no doubt explains your 'frothing at the mouth'.... 
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Reply #601 - Nov 22nd, 2023 at 8:21pm
 
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Reply #602 - Nov 22nd, 2023 at 8:40pm
 
Jordan is Palestine.

What else could it be??

It occupies the Muslim side of the Palestinian Mandate.

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Reply #603 - Nov 24th, 2023 at 8:30pm
 
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Reply #604 - Nov 25th, 2023 at 10:08am
 
Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2023 at 8:40pm:
Jordan is Palestine.

What else could it be??

It occupies the Muslim side of the Palestinian Mandate.



Check with the UN Palestine Mandate-partition plan, to see the borders (despite Jordan annexing the WB in 1950, as previously noted)

Jordan is not Palestine, despite your mindless repetition of RW mythology.

https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/the-jordan-is-palestine-idea-resurfaces-again/

The “Jordan Is Palestine” Idea Resurfaces Again

When the first intifada erupted in 1987, Jordan’s King Hussein realized he had to reverse his grandfather’s decision; one year later in 1988, Jordan severed its legal and administrative ties to the West Bank.

I see poor old grappler is having trouble with the truth - I'll blame you for that....



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Reply #608 - Nov 25th, 2023 at 10:26am
 
Frank wrote on Nov 25th, 2023 at 10:18am:


That was BEFORE Jordan itself was created, on 25th May 1946, BEFORE the UN Palestine-partition plan was adopted in the UN, in Nov. 1947.

The facts:

The region, known as Transjordan (aka 'The East Bank'), was controlled by numerous powers throughout history. During the early modern period, the region of Transjordan was included under the jurisdiction of Ottoman Syrian provinces. After the Great Arab Revolt against Ottoman rule during the 1910s, the Emirate of Transjordan was established in 1921 by Hashemite Emir Abdullah, and the emirate became a British protectorate. In 1946, the emirate achieved independence from the British and in 1949 the country changed its name to the "Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan", after the Jordanian annexation of the West Bank following the 1948 Arab–Israeli War."

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Reply #610 - Nov 26th, 2023 at 1:02pm
 
Round up the firebrands, rotate 'em through Gondwanamo Bay for de-briefing of the most stringent kind - then ship 'em out to a country more compatible with their views..... if they hold Australian citizenship - revoke it... stamp 'Not Suitable' and 'Never To Be Re-admitted!'
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Reply #612 - Nov 26th, 2023 at 2:06pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 9:30pm:
Conservatives are still defending, and encouraging, the murder of children by the IDF.

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And who's calling out Hamas for murdering their own children when using them as human shields?
... as they've done for years with their own citizens in Gaza.

Why are you defending terrorists killing their own as well as Israelis & taking hostages that also includes children.

They are the ones who attacked their own hospital .... and who have tunnels under hospitals & schools.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-67478425
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Reply #614 - Nov 26th, 2023 at 4:20pm
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 26th, 2023 at 2:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 9:30pm:
Conservatives are still defending, and encouraging, the murder of children by the IDF.

Dear oh dear   Roll Eyes



And who's calling out Hamas for murdering their own children when using them as human shields?


You can't bomb Gaza  without killing children, it's the most densely populated open-air prison in the world. 

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Why are you defending terrorists killing their own as well as Israelis & taking hostages that also includes children.



Hamas isn't killing its own children, see above.

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They are the ones who attacked their own hospital ....


The "deplorable" RW brain on full display; it's the Israelis who are doing that.

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and who have tunnels under hospitals & schools.


Of course, everyone digs tunnels when they are oppressed by an external  force.




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