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Driver kidnapped - by his own electric car
Oct 9^th, 2023 at 8:09am

https://au.news.yahoo.com/electric-car-kidnaps-owner-in-terrifying-ordeal-it-won...

It was bound to happen sooner than later. From the link :

Electric car 'kidnaps' owner in terrifying ordeal: 'It won't stop'

Police pulled up to the moving car and when their first attempts to stop the car failed they had to revert to drastic action.

A driver who was "kidnapped" by his own electric car had to dodge roundabouts and run red lights after his vehicle became stuck at a fixed speed of almost 50km/h.

Brian Morrison, 53, was driving home from work in his new MG ZS electric vehicle when it suffered a "catastrophic malfunction" which caused it to get stuck at the speed and stop the brakes from working.

“I realised something was wrong when I was coming up to a roundabout, and went to slow down, but it didn’t do it,” the man from Glasgow, Scotland told local media. “Then I heard a loud grinding noise that sounded like brake pads."

“I quickly rang my partner and I said, 'I don't know what to do. I'm sitting here and it's driving on its own, but it won't stop'... I have mobility issues, so I couldn’t even jump out – I was completely trapped inside the car."

Police intervene to prevent a major accident

After calling police for urgent assistance, the driver spotted the "blue lights" of police cars around him within minutes and the road ahead of him was cleared.

Police reportedly asked Mr Morrison to throw his electric car key through their van window before driving off in the hope to disengage the engine, however it did not have the desired effect. He was then instructed to hold down the car's power button but this also failed to stop the vehicle.

"The last thing to do was an emergency stop by actually the police asking me to crash into the back of their van," Mr Morrison said, explaining the coordinated collision was the final suggestion as he approached a more built-up area. It proved successful.

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Thank God he wasn’t travelling faster!

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Re: Driver kidnapped - by his own electric car
Reply #1 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 8:16am

My apologies...the story continues here 👇

Never seen anything like it'

The driver said despite the extreme measures to force the car to stop, the vehicle tried to keep moving — with a roadside repair mechanic later saying he had never seen anything like it.

The ordeal has left Mr Morrison questioning whether he will drive in an electric car again.

"I need a car to get around but it definitely won't be this car," he said.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58184 Gender:	Re: Driver kidnapped - by his own electric car Reply #2 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 8:51am The MG ZS small SUV from China was the third best-selling vehicle in Australia last month – and set a new sales record with 3852 deliveries – as Australians continue to buy cars made in China in increasing numbers. Buy Chinese, live Chinese.
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Reply #3 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:06am

Frank wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 8:51am:

The MG ZS small SUV from China was the third best-selling vehicle in Australia last month – and set a new sales record with 3852 deliveries – as Australians continue to buy cars made in China in increasing numbers.

Buy Chinese, live Chinese.

Hang on... BILLIONS of (taxpayer) dollars is being spent (by Federal Labor) to PROTECT US FROM CHINA.

Please explain.

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Reply #4 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:11am

Queensland Labor’s Chook Has Spoken Clucked

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/chinese-mg-hs-police-cars-revealed-for-que...

Chinese-made police cars will soon be on patrol in Queensland, but don’t expect them to be chasing down criminals.

MG has revealed the HS Plus EV plug-in hybrid (PHEV) SUVs that will soon be serving in the Queensland Police Service (QPS), where they’ll be driven by Police Liaison Officers.

45 examples of the mid-sized PHEV SUVs will be used by the QPS, each adorned with First Nations artwork, with three vehicles allocated to each of the 15 policing districts.

We are aiming to achieve a 100 percent hybrid sedan and SUV fleet within two years, subject to supply constraints and operational requirements.

“This is not only extremely important for the environment in terms of reducing emissions, but also helps to offset the rises in fuel and operational costs we are all experiencing.”

The force says its vehicles collectively clock around 212,638 kilometres each day, 1.5 million kilometres each week and 77 million kilometres per year.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52990 At my desk.	Re: Driver kidnapped - by his own electric car Reply #5 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:11am Perhaps they need an emergency stop button.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Driver kidnapped - by his own electric car Reply #6 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:18am freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:11am: Perhaps they need an emergency stop button. Ha! Well done! Our external doors/garage door etc are electronically controlled AND they have override functions. If there’s a blackout we can still get in/out. Common sense stuff really.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 119606 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Driver kidnapped - by his own electric car Reply #7 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 12:53pm freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:11am: Perhaps they need an emergency stop button. Yes as per all motorcycles - they always have a kill switch on the right hand handlebar - which can be flicked on by the right thumb. I don't know why cars never have them?
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52990 At my desk.	Re: Driver kidnapped - by his own electric car Reply #8 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 1:39pm In old style cars, removing the keys should do the same thing. The clutch, handbrake, footbrake and gears should also be able to achieve the same thing, and they were mechanical devices, so not subject to computer malfunction.
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Reply #9 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 1:47pm

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 1:39pm:

In old style cars, removing the keys should do the same thing. The clutch, handbrake, footbrake and gears should also be able to achieve the same thing, and they were mechanical devices, so not subject to computer malfunction.

It dangerous to remove the keys in a car -
the steering lock will turn on.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52990 At my desk.	Re: Driver kidnapped - by his own electric car Reply #10 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 3:19pm I am not suggesting people do it out of habit Bobby.
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Reply #11 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:21pm

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 3:19pm:

I am not suggesting people do it out of habit Bobby.

Never take the keys out while the car is moving!

Motorbikes also have a clutch, brakes and gears but
they still have a kill switch.
The throttle cable can become frayed and jam in the sleeve
causing the throttle to become stuck in the on position.
Also the carburetor slides can become stuck too.

I'm surprised cars don't have a kill switch on the steering wheel.

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Reply #12 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 5:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:21pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 3:19pm:

I am not suggesting people do it out of habit Bobby.

Never take the keys out while the car is moving!

Motorbikes also have a clutch, brakes and gears but
they still have a kill switch.
The throttle cable can become frayed and jam in the sleeve
causing the throttle to become stuck in the on position.
Also the carburetor slides can become stuck too.

I'm surprised cars don't have a kill switch on the steering wheel.

If you're car's accelerator got stuck in the fully open position, and your brakes failed and your handbrake melted trying to stop the car, and you couldn't get the clutch in or knock it out of gear, would you use the keys to shut it down, or would you continue accelerating until you ran out of fuel?

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Reply #13 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 6:00pm

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 5:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:21pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 3:19pm:

I am not suggesting people do it out of habit Bobby.

Never take the keys out while the car is moving!

Motorbikes also have a clutch, brakes and gears but
they still have a kill switch.
The throttle cable can become frayed and jam in the sleeve
causing the throttle to become stuck in the on position.
Also the carburetor slides can become stuck too.

I'm surprised cars don't have a kill switch on the steering wheel.

If you're car's accelerator got stuck in the fully open position, and your brakes failed and your handbrake melted trying to stop the car, and you couldn't get the clutch in or knock it out of gear, would you use the keys to shut it down, or would you continue accelerating until you ran out of fuel?

Then you'd have to use the keys -

a kill switch would be easier. Huh

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Reply #14 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 6:11pm

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 5:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:21pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 3:19pm:

I am not suggesting people do it out of habit Bobby.

Never take the keys out while the car is moving!

Motorbikes also have a clutch, brakes and gears but
they still have a kill switch.
The throttle cable can become frayed and jam in the sleeve
causing the throttle to become stuck in the on position.
Also the carburetor slides can become stuck too.

I'm surprised cars don't have a kill switch on the steering wheel.

If you're car's accelerator got stuck in the fully open position, and your brakes failed and your handbrake melted trying to stop the car, and you couldn't get the clutch in or knock it out of gear, would you use the keys to shut it down, or would you continue accelerating until you ran out of fuel?

I converted my Torana to EFI.

I have a switch for high pressure fuel pump near gear lever turning fuel pump off causes engine to stop. Fuel pressure is around 35PSI i did this to reduce fire risk in case of crash.

I can change gears without clutch have to blip throttle to match RPM fairly close or they crunch.

With modern cars and autos unlikely to do too much damage putting it in neutral if throttle jams engine rpms will be restricted by cutout either fuel or spark maybe both at redline. Then use the handbrake.

Older cars with drum brakes on rear might not slow down as quick if brakes haven't been adjusted recently which you can tell because handbrake lever is higher to engage. A 30 second adjustment when jacked up.

Electric cars should have some redundancy built in to account for throttle position failure.

Turning key to lock position is not advised when moving. Engine should stop when turned to off before last click which engages steering lock.

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