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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 49845 Gender:	Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist? Reply #165 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:10am There is evidence that Julius Caesar lived. NONE for Jesus.
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 52557 Gender:	Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist? Reply #166 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:20am Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:10am: There is evidence that Julius Caesar lived. NONE for Jesus. What is your evidence?
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Reply #167 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:27am

The best evidence for Jesus' existence is found in Acts.

Paul documented his bitter arguments with the Jerusalem Council, particularly with James, the brother of Jesus.

Paul, arguing for his status among the apostles, concedes that members of the Jerusalem Council knew Jesus in the flesh - a concession given with almost contempt for them, as he knows the living Jesus in the spirit, which he considers to be the real Jesus. and that Jesus - in the spirit - had called him to his ministry.

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Reply #168 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:00pm

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:08am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 8:28am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:50am:

According to AusGeoff’s “logic”

In 200 years (or less) when no photo can be found of AusGeoff then that’s THE proof that AusGeoff never existed. And those who believe that he did exist are idiots.

Oh and even if A photo was produced once again we wouldn’t know if it was AusGeoff anyway. We would need more proof to prove that the photo was of AusGeoff. We’re in vicious cycles of proving the authenticity of proofs territory now.

Okkkkay. Next!

Birth certificate
Marriage certificate
Death certificate

Can you produce these for Jesus?

Birth certificate? The census that required Joseph (in 2 gospels) to go to Bethlehem never happened so scratch birth certificate.

Marriage certificate—marriage to the Magdelene probably happened not recorded anywhere tho. Couplekids likely.

Death certificate–no record of such a trial by Pontius Pilate so scratch death certificate.

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Happy?

Do you have Julius Caesar's birth certificate, juvenile? Any of your own ancestors from biblical times?

No.

😂🤣😆😂🤣😆

It’s like arguing with a 7 yr old. A very dumb 7 yr old. God I hope I never live to be his age (80) AND be as dumb as Dumbarse Drunk. 😩

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist? Reply #169 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:03pm Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:20am: Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:10am: There is evidence that Julius Caesar lived. NONE for Jesus. What is your evidence? The evidence that Dumbarse Drunk once existed 👇 • lots of empty alcohol bottles • lots of massive unpaid debts
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 49845 Gender:	Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist? Reply #170 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:08pm Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:20am: Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:10am: There is evidence that Julius Caesar lived. NONE for Jesus. What is your evidence? You think Julius Caesar, destroyer of the Roman Republic, is not documented?
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Reply #171 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:12pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:08pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:20am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:10am:

There is evidence that Julius Caesar lived.

NONE for Jesus.

What is your evidence?

You think Julius Caesar, destroyer of the Roman Republic, is not documented?

Jesus is documented.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 49845 Gender:	Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist? Reply #172 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:17pm Nope. The tales of his birth in Bethlehem are just. . .tales. No judgement by Pontius Pilate re Jesus ever happened. All just stories.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist? Reply #173 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:18pm Frank - think 7 yr old dumb kid mentality. You’ll be here all day/all night and STILL get nowhere with Ozpol’s alcoholic nutjob and confirmed forum thief. Actually most of us have given up on the dumbarse. We just pretend he’s not even online by posting over him.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 49845 Gender:	Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist? Reply #174 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:19pm That’s right Sore End, listen to the forum junky! LOL!
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Reply #175 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:20pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:18pm:

Frank - think 7 yr old dumb kid mentality. You’ll be here all day/all night and STILL get nowhere with Ozpol’s alcoholic nutjob and confirmed forum thief. Actually most of us have given up on the dumbarse. We just pretend he’s not even online by posting over him.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 49845 Gender:	Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist? Reply #176 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:21pm You see the autism—thinks it knows everything and engages in repetitive behavior, yeah, really someone to listen to
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Reply #177 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:26pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:18pm:

Frank - think 7 yr old dumb kid mentality. You’ll be here all day/all night and STILL get nowhere with Ozpol’s alcoholic nutjob and confirmed forum thief. Actually most of us have given up on the dumbarse. We just pretend he’s not even online by posting over him.

Or we make fun of both him AND his arse licking Abo dumbarse dole bludging drug addict mong pal.

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Reply #178 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:30pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:27am:

The best evidence for Jesus' existence is found in Acts.

Paul documented his bitter arguments with the Jerusalem Council, particularly with James, the brother of Jesus.

Paul, arguing for his status among the apostles, concedes that members of the Jerusalem Council knew Jesus in the flesh - a concession given with almost contempt for them, as he knows the living Jesus in the spirit, which he considers to be the real Jesus. and that Jesus - in the spirit - had called him to his ministry.

Ahhh ... now that IS a marvellous part of the Holy Bible. The intersecting of past and present prominent figures of early Christianity.

An issue for Atheists/Agnostics (and those in between) 👉 the non acceptance of the Holy Bible as a source document.

Note : THIS is a continuous source of contention btwn myself and my husband ( the agnostic/atheist OR atheist/agnostic depending on how he feels that day) 😩🥺😔

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Reply #179 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:31pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:17pm:

Nope. The tales of his birth in Bethlehem are just. . .tales.

No judgement by Pontius Pilate re Jesus ever happened.

All just stories.

The virgin birth and Jesus' birth in Bethlehem are certainly myths.

The crucifixion on the orders of Pilate, however, is likely true. What is almost certainly a myth is that Pilate suffered a crisis of conscience over ordering the execution of Jesus.

Pilate was brutal even by Roman standards, so the notion that he dithered or went through some hand-wringing over executing yet one more Jewish insurrectionist is laughable.

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