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Re: The Reality
Reply #45 - Oct 6th, 2023 at 3:51pm
 
Boris wrote on Oct 6th, 2023 at 12:00pm:
That referendum can be vetoed by the Voice


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Reply #46 - Oct 7th, 2023 at 4:47pm
 
The voice referendum deserves to be defeated on the ethics of conviction and consequences. I write as a proud Australian of Indian heritage. I pay my respects to the Aboriginal communities that have lived here since Dreamtime; but also to the pioneers who established modern Australia as a stable and prosperous democracy, and to the visionary leaders who strove tirelessly to create a society that grants equal citizenship to everyone in a vibrant multicultural country.

I seek no privilege, right or obligation of citizenship not available to every Australian. I do claim, for myself and my descendants, every opportunity to participate in civic life. This is the ethic of conviction.

Using sectarian ancestry as the organising principle to add a chapter to the nation’s foundational governance document will inject the poison of race-based preferential access to parliament and government into the heart of the body politic.

The overriding goal of the voice should be the difference it will make on the ground, not making us feel virtuous the morning after the referendum. Yet it will deliver no practical outcomes. I am yet to hear anyone describe a single effective, or even potentially effective, measure that cannot be implemented now by government without the voice, or one that will be helped in any form with the voice. Australians are familiar with the litany of failures afflicting Aboriginal communities. The voice will make little practical difference in remote communities to the metrics of life expectancy, literacy, housing, violence, incarceration rates, suicide rates, community safety and so on.
Ramesh Thakur is emeritus professor at ANU’s Crawford School of Public Policy and is a former UN assistant secretary-general.


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https://www.2gb.com/podcast/race-based-politics-of-the-voice-referendum-should-b...

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Reply #47 - Oct 21st, 2023 at 10:40am
 
Prominent conservative historian Geoffrey Blainey says Indigenous Australians are “far far better” off since colonisation and are benefiting from a dramatic increase in life expectancy since 1788.

Professor Blainey rejected suggestions it was a national shame that the life expectancy of Indigenous people was eight years lower than other Australians, backing leading No campaigner Jacinta Price’s claim colonisation had been positive for First Nations people.

“The life expectancy of us all, Aboriginal peoples included, has improved dramatically since 1788,” he writes in The Weekend Australian’s Inquirer section.

“I myself believe that most ­Aboriginals and Torres Strait ­Islanders are far, far better off today than if they were living in 1788.

“This land is infinitely more fruitful than it was in 1788, and most Aboriginals are now the gainers … Here in this continent arose a democratic society which, for all its imperfections, offers liberty in a world where liberty is not normal.”

Professor Blainey says the life expectancy of Indigenous Australians – recorded in 2018 as 71.6 years for men and 75.6 years for women – is “about the same as the average citizen of the world”.

“Every country in Africa has a much lower life expectation than Indigenous Australians. Even the European Union displays more than an eight-year gap between member nations,” he writes.

“There is a wide gap between north and south England. Today the Aboriginals have a life expectancy equal to that of Bulgaria and Romania. Their life expectancy is higher than that in peacetime Russia and Ukraine.”

Among other contentious claims in his piece, the 93-year-old pours doubt over the future of remote Indigenous towns, criticises the Native Title Act and ­refers to the “so-called Stolen Generation” as being made up of “Aboriginal children who had to be rescued for the sake of their own safety and welfare”.

Senator Price was condemned by the Healing Foundation, Central Land Council and other peak bodies, who said her claims were “a denial of history” and “an ­insult” to Indigenous Australians who had survived colonisation and the Stolen Generations.

Professor Blainey, who stirred controversy in the 1980s for ­critiquing the nation’s immigration policy and its intake of Asians, criticises Anthony Albanese and Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney for failing to congratulate No campaigners Senator Price and Warren Mundine.

“Here was a unique event, a national triumph for two true-blue Aboriginal leaders, Warren Mundine and Jacinta Price,” he writes. “Only one sentence was needed. (Mr Albanese) failed to speak that sentence.”
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