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Tesla Battery Pack fire - South of Rockhampton
Sep 28^th, 2023 at 12:53pm

A Tesla battery fire at one of Queensland’s first large-scale battery storage sites could burn for days, as authorities warn nearby residents to stay indoors to avoid hazardous fumes.

Emergency services were called at Bouldercombe, south of Rockhampton, about 7.45pm on Tuesday.

The fire was contained, but crews were advised by Tesla to allow the fire to burn out, prompting a warning to local residents to stay indoors to avoid the hazardous smoke.

The battery, nicknamed ‘Big Bessie’, is one of 40 lithium Megapack 2.0 units supplied by Tesla on a site privately owned by renewable energy and storage developer Genex. Genex said in a statement that no one was on site at the time of the incident.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/sep/27/tesla-lithium-battery-fir...

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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6169 Gender:	Re: Tesla Battery Pack fire - South of Rockhampton Reply #1 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 12:59pm Better get used to it. This is the new normal with the so-called 'renewables' infrastructure.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Tesla Battery Pack fire - South of Rockhampton Reply #2 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:01pm Belgarion wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 12:59pm: Better get used to it. This is the new normal with the so-called 'renewables' infrastructure. of course cause before renewables nothing ever burnt down ya morons
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Re: Tesla Battery Pack fire - South of Rockhampton
Reply #3 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:06pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:01pm:

Belgarion wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 12:59pm:

Better get used to it. This is the new normal with the so-called 'renewables' infrastructure.

of course

cause before renewables nothing ever burnt down
Cheesy

ya morons

What part of "as authorities warn nearby residents to stay indoors to avoid hazardous fumes" didn't you understand? Lithium fires are highly toxic, very light. I would go to somewhere much safer until the fire is out.

And don't use your air-conditioning. Sounds not so good in Rocky.

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Re: Tesla Battery Pack fire - South of Rockhampton
Reply #4 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:09pm

lee wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:01pm:

Belgarion wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 12:59pm:

Better get used to it. This is the new normal with the so-called 'renewables' infrastructure.

of course

cause before renewables nothing ever burnt down
Cheesy

ya morons

What part of "as authorities warn nearby residents to stay indoors to avoid hazardous fumes" didn't you understand? Lithium fires are highly toxic, very light. I would go to somewhere much safer until the fire is out.

And don't use your air-conditioning. Sounds not so good in Rocky.

is there a point?Have you been living under a rock all your life? Fumes and smoke in general are generally accepted as being bad for you. This is not new. Just a few weeks ago Sydneysiders were warned to stay indoors because of smoke haze covering the city from back burning. Did you cry then too? Blame the trees or the grass?

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Re: Tesla Battery Pack fire - South of Rockhampton
Reply #5 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:31pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:09pm:

lee wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:01pm:

Belgarion wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 12:59pm:

Better get used to it. This is the new normal with the so-called 'renewables' infrastructure.

of course

cause before renewables nothing ever burnt down
Cheesy

ya morons

What part of "as authorities warn nearby residents to stay indoors to avoid hazardous fumes" didn't you understand? Lithium fires are highly toxic, very light. I would go to somewhere much safer until the fire is out.

And don't use your air-conditioning. Sounds not so good in Rocky.

is there a point?Have you been living under a rock all your life? Fumes and smoke in general are generally accepted as being bad for you. This is not new. Just a few weeks ago Sydneysiders were warned to stay indoors because of smoke haze covering the city from back burning. Did you cry then too? Blame the trees or the grass?

Smoke from combustible material like wood or grass is unpleasant and is dangerous in large amounts, however the gases released from inflammable metals are much worse, with the Li battery near the top of the list.

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Re: Tesla Battery Pack fire - South of Rockhampton
Reply #6 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:39pm

Belgarion wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:09pm:

lee wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:01pm:

Belgarion wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 12:59pm:

Better get used to it. This is the new normal with the so-called 'renewables' infrastructure.

of course

cause before renewables nothing ever burnt down
Cheesy

ya morons

What part of "as authorities warn nearby residents to stay indoors to avoid hazardous fumes" didn't you understand? Lithium fires are highly toxic, very light. I would go to somewhere much safer until the fire is out.

And don't use your air-conditioning. Sounds not so good in Rocky.

is there a point?Have you been living under a rock all your life? Fumes and smoke in general are generally accepted as being bad for you. This is not new. Just a few weeks ago Sydneysiders were warned to stay indoors because of smoke haze covering the city from back burning. Did you cry then too? Blame the trees or the grass?

Smoke from combustible material like wood or grass is unpleasant and is dangerous in large amounts, however the gases released from inflammable metals are much worse, with the Li battery near the top of the list.

no worse than smoke from burning tyres ... is lee going to argue that we shouldn't use tyres Cheesy

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Re: Tesla Battery Pack fire - South of Rockhampton
Reply #7 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:56pm

Just a heads up

The Frodo Smith tosspot is online under the influence of the latest drugs he’s just scored out of long term unemployed boredom. Ignore/post over the unhinged nutter who clearly has no knowledge about Tesla Battery Pack fire danger.

In fact ... the Dumbarse Dhead is in here just to smear his unhinged spam and troll in another Mod’s Sub Forum.

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Re: Tesla Battery Pack fire - South of Rockhampton
Reply #8 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 2:13pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:56pm:

Just a heads up

The Frodo Smith tosspot is online under the influence of the latest drugs he’s just scored out of long term unemployed boredom. Ignore/post over the unhinged nutter who clearly has no knowledge about Tesla Battery Pack fire danger.

In fact ... the Dumbarse Dhead is in here just to smear his unhinged spam and troll in another Mod’s Sub Forum.

Dear Lisa,
as a Christian you should be trying to get them some help -

maybe the name and number of their nearest exorcist?

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Re: Tesla Battery Pack fire - South of Rockhampton
Reply #9 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 2:30pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 2:13pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:56pm:

Just a heads up

The Frodo Smith tosspot is online under the influence of the latest drugs he’s just scored out of long term unemployed boredom. Ignore/post over the unhinged nutter who clearly has no knowledge about Tesla Battery Pack fire danger.

In fact ... the Dumbarse Dhead is in here just to smear his unhinged spam and troll in another Mod’s Sub Forum.

Dear Lisa,
as a Christian you should be trying to get them some help -

maybe the name and number of their nearest exorcist?

Fumigation experts you mean?

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Re: Tesla Battery Pack fire - South of Rockhampton
Reply #10 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 2:34pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 2:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 2:13pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:56pm:

Just a heads up

The Frodo Smith tosspot is online under the influence of the latest drugs he’s just scored out of long term unemployed boredom. Ignore/post over the unhinged nutter who clearly has no knowledge about Tesla Battery Pack fire danger.

In fact ... the Dumbarse Dhead is in here just to smear his unhinged spam and troll in another Mod’s Sub Forum.

Dear Lisa,
as a Christian you should be trying to get them some help -

maybe the name and number of their nearest exorcist?

Fumigation experts you mean?

But their demons must be driven out.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21507 Gender:	Re: Tesla Battery Pack fire - South of Rockhampton Reply #11 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 3:06pm John Smith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:39pm: no worse than smoke from burning tyres . And of course you have a reference for that?
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Tesla Battery Pack fire - South of Rockhampton Reply #12 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 3:49pm lee wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 3:06pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:39pm: no worse than smoke from burning tyres . And of course you have a reference for that? He’s really referencing the smoke 💨 from his latest bong. I’m not joking ... unfortunately 😩
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Tesla Battery Pack fire - South of Rockhampton Reply #13 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 5:35pm lee wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 3:06pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:39pm: no worse than smoke from burning tyres . And of course you have a reference for that? You want a reference to know that smoke from burning tyres is no good for you? What are you 2 years old?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21507 Gender:	Re: Tesla Battery Pack fire - South of Rockhampton Reply #14 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 6:34pm John Smith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 5:35pm: You want a reference to know that smoke from burning tyres is no good for you? No; your claim was "no worse than smoke from burning tyres". So about it guido troll.
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Re: Tesla Battery Pack fire - South of Rockhampton
Reply #15 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 7:49pm

lee wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 12:53pm:

A Tesla battery fire at one of Queensland’s first large-scale battery storage sites could burn for days, as authorities warn nearby residents to stay indoors to avoid hazardous fumes.

Emergency services were called at Bouldercombe, south of Rockhampton, about 7.45pm on Tuesday.

The fire was contained, but crews were advised by Tesla to allow the fire to burn out, prompting a warning to local residents to stay indoors to avoid the hazardous smoke.

The battery, nicknamed ‘Big Bessie’, is one of 40 lithium Megapack 2.0 units supplied by Tesla on a site privately owned by renewable energy and storage developer Genex. Genex said in a statement that no one was on site at the time of the incident.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/sep/27/tesla-lithium-battery-fir...

Tesla know if you put out their battery fires they can ignite again.

Any other types of fires where they say don't bother trying to put it out let it burn out?

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Reply #16 - Sep 29^th, 2023 at 8:32am

lee wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 6:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 5:35pm:

You want a reference to know that smoke from burning tyres is no good for you?

No; your claim was "no worse than smoke from burning tyres".

So about it guido troll. Grin

Ohh my god you really are an idiot

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However, some synthetic rubbers, when burnt, can release chemicals such as cyanide and carbon monoxide. Both of these substances are potentially deadly when inhaled in high enough quantities

are battery fires worse then death you dumbarse?

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Reply #17 - Sep 29^th, 2023 at 9:25am

John Smith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:39pm:

...no worse than smoke from burning tyres ... is lee going to argue that we shouldn't use tyres Cheesy

Not so. Emissions from burning Lithium-ion cells
are far more toxic to humans than those from
burning rubber tyres.

At elevated temperature the fluorine content of the
electrolyte in LI-ion cells and, to some extent, other
parts of the battery such as the polyvinylidene
fluoride (PVdF) binder in the electrodes, can form
gases such as hydrogen fluoride HF, phosphorus
pentafluoride (PF5) and phosphoryl fluoride (POF3),
ranging between 20 and 200 mg/Wh of nominal
battery energy capacity.

A Tesla battery pack has a capacity of 95kWh, which
means if fully burned, could release 19g of fluorides
into the atmosphere. Which is why firemen must wear
SCBA when attacking a Li-ion fire.

A lethal concentration of atmospheric hydrogen
fluoride is 30 ppm, whilst that released from a
burning vehicle is 170 ppm/10 mins.

The release of hydrogen fluoride from a Li-ion battery
fire can therefore be a severe risk and an even
greater risk in confined or semi-confined spaces.

Burning tyres also release significant amounts of toxic
pollutants into the air. These pollutants include sulphur
dioxide (SO2), nitrogen oxides (NOx), carbon
monoxide (CO), volatile organic compounds (VOCs),
and particulate matter (PM), including fine particles
known as PM2.5 (0.0025mm dia).

But none are immediate killers.

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Re: Tesla Battery Pack fire - South of Rockhampton
Reply #18 - Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:32am

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 9:25am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:39pm:

...no worse than smoke from burning tyres ... is lee going to argue that we shouldn't use tyres Cheesy

Not so. Emissions from burning Lithium-ion cells
are far more toxic to humans than those from
burning rubber tyres.

At elevated temperature the fluorine content of the
electrolyte in LI-ion cells and, to some extent, other
parts of the battery such as the polyvinylidene
fluoride (PVdF) binder in the electrodes, can form
gases such as hydrogen fluoride HF, phosphorus
pentafluoride (PF5) and phosphoryl fluoride (POF3),
ranging between 20 and 200 mg/Wh of nominal
battery energy capacity.

A Tesla battery pack has a capacity of 95kWh, which
means if fully burned, could release 19g of fluorides
into the atmosphere. Which is why firemen must wear
SCBA when attacking a Li-ion fire.

A lethal concentration of atmospheric hydrogen
fluoride is 30 ppm, whilst that released from a
burning vehicle is 170 ppm/10 mins.

The release of hydrogen fluoride from a Li-ion battery
fire can therefore be a severe risk and an even
greater risk in confined or semi-confined spaces.

Burning tyres also release significant amounts of toxic
pollutants into the air. These pollutants include sulphur
dioxide (SO2), nitrogen oxides (NOx), carbon
monoxide (CO), volatile organic compounds (VOCs),
and particulate matter (PM), including fine particles
known as PM2.5 (0.0025mm dia).

But none are immediate killers.

dead is dead. You can argue that one makes you more dead if you like Roll Eyes

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Re: Tesla Battery Pack fire - South of Rockhampton
Reply #19 - Sep 29^th, 2023 at 12:12pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 7:49pm:

lee wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 12:53pm:

A Tesla battery fire at one of Queensland’s first large-scale battery storage sites could burn for days, as authorities warn nearby residents to stay indoors to avoid hazardous fumes.

Emergency services were called at Bouldercombe, south of Rockhampton, about 7.45pm on Tuesday.

The fire was contained, but crews were advised by Tesla to allow the fire to burn out, prompting a warning to local residents to stay indoors to avoid the hazardous smoke.

The battery, nicknamed ‘Big Bessie’, is one of 40 lithium Megapack 2.0 units supplied by Tesla on a site privately owned by renewable energy and storage developer Genex. Genex said in a statement that no one was on site at the time of the incident.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/sep/27/tesla-lithium-battery-fir...

Tesla know if you put out their battery fires they can ignite again.

Any other types of fires where they say don't bother trying to put it out let it burn out?

Actually Baron - The serious issue has been making global news. It’s also behind why these cars are so expensive to INSURE.

COULD WE ALL IGNORE THE DUMBARSE FRODO BLOWFLY? IT ONLY TURNS UP TO ABUSE/TROLL/HIJACK TOPICS ALL ACROSS OZPOL WITH ITS SINGLE DRUG FRIED BRAIN CELL.

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