Now ....what’s the latest on Russell Brand?

He’s been accused. ✅

Has the matter progressed beyond this?

Greg

Could you please keep us informed of any further developments?

I honestly don’t know what to make of this guy. Is he guilty? Is he innocent? We don’t have much information (at this stage) to know the answer to these sorts of questions.

Despite that I have a few concerns about HIM as an individual. So let’s quickly run through these:

I personally don’t like him. I think he has a lot of narcissistic character flaws which obscure and filter how he constructs information around him.

The fact that so many women (I think 4?) have now come forward is compelling enough to raise eyebrows and to start comparing/contrasting wtf has been going on behind closed doors btwn Brand and each woman who’s now raised her hand to speak up.

IF each woman’s account highlights recurring disturbing behaviour patterns on the part of Brand then there’s no doubt in my mind he’ll be convicted.

IF on the other hand each woman agrees to an out of court settlement AND a NDA in lieu of going to court then we’ll never really find if he was innocent or guilty. We will be left presuming him innocent instead. In fact I think this is how it might well play out. 

Edit : Oh I just realised Greg you’re the Moderator here. 😂🤣😆

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 5:54pm:


Last fall, a woman named Leigh Corfman helped upend a Senate race in Alabama when she said that the Republican candidate, Roy S. Moore, sexually assaulted her when she was 14, nearly four decades ago. She said she worried for years that going public would affect her children, and that her history of divorce and financial mistakes would undermine her account. After being approached by a Washington Post reporter, she agreed to tell her story, and later said, “If anything, this has cost me.”

But negative consequences are not the only thing to keep victims from coming forward. Experts point to a more fundamental issue: When the perpetrator is someone they trusted, it can take years for victims even to identify what happened to them as a violation.

Why Women Can Take Years to Come Forward With Sexual Assault Allegations

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 6:55pm:



All he wanted was a root.   

This article may go some way in answering conspiracy theorists defending Brand:

Why allegations like the ones against Russell Brand can take years to come to light

Social media is awash with conspiracy theories about a supposed ‘coordinated attack’ on Brand. But investigations into sexual assault allegations take months, if not years, of work in order to gather sufficient evidence ...

Rumours surrounding Brand’s alleged behaviour had been circulating for “a number of years”, with sources describing Brand as an intimidating figure. The Sunday Times said many were concerned about speaking up due to fear of repercussions, and would only speak to reporters on condition of anonymity.

At the same time that Urwin was speaking to sources, the ST’s sister publication The Times had also been investigating Brand. His alleged victims eventually agreed to have their stories told by both publications.

The timeline states that “hundreds” of people were contacted over the course of the four-year investigation, including the friends and family of the alleged victims, other comedians, TV executives and those who had worked for, or with, Brand.

“None of the women whose stories we are telling know each other,” the Sunday Times timeline said. “No one involved was paid to contribute to our reporting. They have also provided substantial information to corroborate their allegations.”

The joint investigation between The Times and Dispatches would also have been the subject of extensive and lengthy checks by their respective legal teams, as well as multiple requests put to Brand for a response to the various allegations being made to him.

Writing for The Spectator, literature editor Sam Leith called out the “naive cynicism” over the Brand allegations by those attempting to pick holes in The Times investigation.


“There are many ways to take an oppositional view of this sort of thing,” he wrote. “But if your first reaction is to tap your nose and raise an eyebrow and, before you’ve even considered the report itself, to speculate about the motivations of the reporting, you’re a damn fool.”

He added: “I haven’t seen a single piece in one of those boring and fastidious mainstream media outlets challenging The Sunday Times’s reporting, still less one making callow assumptions about its shadowy hidden agenda. But social media is crawling with the stuff. That’s a grave bifurcation.”

Leith said conspiracy theorists might well conclude that the mainstream media was “working to suppress the truth-telling enemies of the establishment” or, as he did, believe that there are “a scarily large mass of ordinary people who’ll believe any daft thing if they’re told ‘the establishment’ is trying to suppress it; and that there are a number of social-media celebrities, from around the world and across the political spectrum, who should know better but are making a good living out of encouraging them”.

Investigations into figures such as Tate, and disgraced producer and convicted rapist Harvey Weinstein, have been met with similar reactions. While rumours surrounding Weinstein’s rape, sexual abuse and assaults of women over a period of 30 years abounded in the film industry, it was not until the 2017 investigations by the New York Times and the New Yorker, which interviewed dozens of women accusing Weinstein of assaulting them, that he was held to account.

Many of his accusers cited fear of repercussions as a reason for not speaking out, or said they had been pressured into signing non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) by Weinstein’s associates, lawyers and publicists, or that they had been bullied into silence by payments and threats.

Before he was exposed, Weinstein was indisputably one of the most powerful men in Hollywood, with a culture of fear, silence and complicity enabling him to continue his attacks of women without repercussions. He is currently serving a 23-year prison sentence after being convicted of multiple charges of rape and sexual assault.

Following the Brand investigation, the Metropolitan Police urged any alleged victims of sexual assault to contact the police, “no matter how long ago it happened”.

“We spoke with The Sunday Times on Saturday 16 September. We will be making further approaches to The Sunday Times and Channel 4 to ensure that any victims of crime who they have spoken with are aware of how they may report any criminal allegations to police,” a spokesperson said.

Brand is facing a new allegation of sexual assault, police said on Monday (18 September). The alleged assault, in London’s Soho in 2003, was reported to the Metropolitan Police on Sunday."

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/russell-brand-allegatio...

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 8:07pm:


Just keep doing what you do best, Frank: defend rapists, alleged rapists, criminals who steal money from kids' cancer charities, and slimy little lawyers who pull their cocks out in front of 13 year old girls.

Why are these allegations coming out now, 10-20 years later?

Four women are alleging sexual assaults between 2006 and 2013:

One woman alleges that Brand raped her without a condom against a wall in his Los Angeles home. She says Brand tried to stop her leaving until she told him she was going to the bathroom. She was treated at a rape crisis centre on the same day, which the Times says it has confirmed via medical records.   



A second woman, in the UK, alleges that Brand assaulted her when he was in his early 30s and she was 16 and still at school. She alleges he referred to her as "the child" during an emotionally abusive and controlling relationship. Looking back, she says, he "engaged in the behaviours of a groomer".



A third woman claims that Brand sexually assaulted her while she worked with him in Los Angeles. She alleges she repeatedly told Brand to get off her, and when he eventually relented he "flipped" and was "super angry". She says he threatened to take legal action if she told anyone else about her allegation 



The fourth woman has alleged being sexually assaulted by Brand in the UK and him being physically and emotionally abusive towards her.

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 9:48pm:


And defend some more rapists?