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Modern new cars? Use old style security then!
Aug 31^st, 2023 at 3:52pm

I was astounded to see on a current affair about this device that can unlock modern computerised cars so it’s easy to steal and drive away, while you are in your locked up home with your car keys safely inside.

https://m.timesofindia.com/auto/news/three-ways-tech-savvy-thieves-are-stealing-...

Time to return to old fashioned methods and since we now have a new modern keyless vehicle … we dug out the old club lock for the steering wheel!
Just a warning if your car is not in a lock up garage and in an open carport or on street parking… or if you go out shopping with the car and leave in a car park.

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Reply #1 - Sep 1^st, 2023 at 3:41am

Unfortunately, these types of combination steering
wheel locks are all about visual deterrents, but in
actuality they provide virtually no protection against
theft.

I could open that lock in probably 20 seconds or so
with a decoding tool. Yes... really.

I guess if it's parked at a shopping centre, a thief will
always go to the car(s) next to you without one of
these locks, but outside your house—particularly at
night—it's goodbye to your vehicle.

A concealed isolation switch wired into the ignition
system wiring is the best way to go.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 118904 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Modern new cars? Use old style security then! Reply #2 - Sep 1^st, 2023 at 6:30am Geoff, Quote: I could open that lock in probably 20 seconds or so with a decoding tool. Yes... really. No you couldn't - you're making unsubstantiated boasts.
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Reply #3 - Sep 1^st, 2023 at 8:51am

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 1^st, 2023 at 3:41am:

Unfortunately, these types of combination steering
wheel locks are all about visual deterrents, but in
actuality they provide virtually no protection against
theft.

I could open that lock in probably 20 seconds or so
with a decoding tool. Yes... really.

I guess if it's parked at a shopping centre, a thief will
always go to the car(s) next to you without one of
these locks, but outside your house—particularly at
night—it's goodbye to your vehicle.

A concealed isolation switch wired into the ignition
system wiring is the best way to go.

You’ve not slept all night (with that ID) I see. In fact your last 25 posts show you’ve done an all nighter. That’s something only Drunk, Methra or Groggy do.

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Reply #4 - Sep 1^st, 2023 at 8:58am

Larry seems to be correct—an all nighter?

Not something I can do anymore tho I used to be a real night owl many many years ago.

I do sometimes wake early, 3.00am etc and might come back to the computer if I can’t get back to sleep. Sometimes do a bit of a night owl, reading a book on Kindle and occasionally checking here for amusement. NOT an all nighter tho.

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Reply #5 - Sep 1^st, 2023 at 9:19am

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 1^st, 2023 at 8:51am:

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 1^st, 2023 at 3:41am:

Unfortunately, these types of combination steering
wheel locks are all about visual deterrents, but in
actuality they provide virtually no protection against
theft.

I could open that lock in probably 20 seconds or so
with a decoding tool. Yes... really.

I guess if it's parked at a shopping centre, a thief will
always go to the car(s) next to you without one of
these locks, but outside your house—particularly at
night—it's goodbye to your vehicle.

A concealed isolation switch wired into the ignition
system wiring is the best way to go.

You’ve not slept all night (with that ID) I see. In fact your last 25 posts show you’ve done an all nighter. That’s something only Drunk, Methra or Groggy do.

Heads Up : AusGeoff is just another unhinged fake shared Multi Mong ID. You will typically find one of the Manure Mound Mongs scurrying to that fake/shared id’s defence and such Mongs will resort to inventing lies in order to this.

👉 All Mongs deserve to be made fun of/posted over. Eventually they tire and p1ss off.

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Reply #6 - Sep 1^st, 2023 at 9:23am

AusGeoff only posted once on my fine forum, unfortunately. Geoff is one of the very few posters here with high intelligence.

And—If Geoff wishes to pull an all-nighter that is his business, not mine and not yours. Also, your crap—and crap it is—about fake/shared/multi ids (i.e. socks) is tedious beyond belief.

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Reply #7 - Sep 1^st, 2023 at 9:29am

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 1^st, 2023 at 9:19am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 1^st, 2023 at 8:51am:

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 1^st, 2023 at 3:41am:

Unfortunately, these types of combination steering
wheel locks are all about visual deterrents, but in
actuality they provide virtually no protection against
theft.

I could open that lock in probably 20 seconds or so
with a decoding tool. Yes... really.

I guess if it's parked at a shopping centre, a thief will
always go to the car(s) next to you without one of
these locks, but outside your house—particularly at
night—it's goodbye to your vehicle.

A concealed isolation switch wired into the ignition
system wiring is the best way to go.

You’ve not slept all night (with that ID) I see. In fact your last 25 posts show you’ve done an all nighter. That’s something only Drunk, Methra or Groggy do.

Heads Up : AusGeoff is just another unhinged fake shared Multi Mong ID. You will typically find one of the Manure Mound Mongs scurrying to that fake/shared id’s defence and such Mongs will resort to inventing lies in order to this.

👉 All Mongs deserve to be made fun of/posted over. Eventually they tire and p1ss off.

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Reply #8 - Sep 1^st, 2023 at 9:39am

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 1^st, 2023 at 3:41am:

Unfortunately, these types of combination steering
wheel locks are all about visual deterrents, but in
actuality they provide virtually no protection against
theft.

I could open that lock in probably 20 seconds or so
with a decoding tool. Yes... really.

I guess if it's parked at a shopping centre, a thief will
always go to the car(s) next to you without one of
these locks, but outside your house—particularly at
night—it's goodbye to your vehicle.

A concealed isolation switch wired into the ignition
system wiring is the best way to go.

I put that pic up as an example of a club lock. There are a few styles, we have one similar to this.

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Reply #9 - Sep 1^st, 2023 at 9:47am

Maybe old school knowledge of these may be able to undo them but many people don’t use them and for new intentional crooks it could well be a deterrent at best. I was looking at a few different style club locks, I might investigate further which one may be the best one.
Basically I wanted to put this topic up because I was shocked at the ease of stealing modern computerised cars by a device that hacks into the code and wanted anyone to be warned of it.
My son has even got a wheel lock on his trailer I saw recently.
We are going away with our caravan soon and we have a lock for the tow hitch.
Anything will help if it acts as a bit of surprise deterrent for the un prepared crook.

PS. I’m a bit of a night owl too. I could be up until 2am.
I either watch something on prime, or knit, or go outside taking moon photos

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Reply #10 - Sep 1^st, 2023 at 9:52am

Sophia wrote on Sep 1^st, 2023 at 9:47am:

Maybe old school knowledge of these may be able to undo them but many people don’t use them and for new intentional crooks it could well be a deterrent at best. I was looking at a few different style club locks, I might investigate further which one may be the best one.
Basically I wanted to put this topic up because I was shocked at the ease of stealing modern computerised cars by a device that hacks into the code and wanted anyone to be warned of it.
My son has even got a wheel lock on his trailer I saw recently.
We are going away with our caravan soon and we have a lock lock for the tow hitch.
Anything will help if it acts as a bit of surprise deterrent for the un prepared crook.

We mainly rely on secure parking ie our triple garage with automatic keyless entry.

Plus we live in a very low crime area. Nothing ever happens here.

Note : The filthy rich drug lord who lives down the road looks after his house (his Mum lives there full time) AND the entire street lol.

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Sophia Gold Member Offline Posts: 9576	Re: Modern new cars? Use old style security then! Reply #11 - Sep 1^st, 2023 at 9:57am I would like to ask Geoff what he suggests is best to protect modern vehicles that are in open carports or in street parking which there are plenty of as many places now are so subdivided up with cramping of units and not much room for one car let alone two.
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Reply #12 - Sep 1^st, 2023 at 10:03am

Sophia wrote on Sep 1^st, 2023 at 9:47am:

Maybe old school knowledge of these may be able to undo them but many people don’t use them and for new intentional crooks it could well be a deterrent at best. I was looking at a few different style club locks, I might investigate further which one may be the best one.
Basically I wanted to put this topic up because I was shocked at the ease of stealing modern computerised cars by a device that hacks into the code and wanted anyone to be warned of it.
My son has even got a wheel lock on his trailer I saw recently.
We are going away with our caravan soon and we have a lock for the tow hitch.
Anything will help if it acts as a bit of surprise deterrent for the un prepared crook.

PS. I’m a bit of a night owl too. I could be up until 2am.
I either watch something on prime, or knit, or go outside taking moon photos

While farm houses suffer a high degree of crime in the village there doesn’t seem to be much crime. When I go to nearby towns I leave the back door open. I do lock it at night but doubt any real reason for that. One of the advantages of living in the country. I do not have any steering lock on my Mazda which does have an immobiliser built in. It is parked outside at night.

I might park the car in the 2 car garage on the western side of the property like 50m from the house next winter—for protection from the elements.

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Reply #13 - Sep 1^st, 2023 at 10:11am

Sophia wrote on Sep 1^st, 2023 at 9:57am:

I would like to ask Geoff what he suggests is best to protect modern vehicles that are in open carports or in street parking which there are plenty of as many places now are so subdivided up with cramping of units and not much room for one car let alone two.

Insurance

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Reply #14 - Sep 1^st, 2023 at 10:35am

Gordon wrote on Sep 1^st, 2023 at 10:11am:

Sophia wrote on Sep 1^st, 2023 at 9:57am:

I would like to ask Geoff what he suggests is best to protect modern vehicles that are in open carports or in street parking which there are plenty of as many places now are so subdivided up with cramping of units and not much room for one car let alone two.

Insurance

Well Gordy - you beat me to it.

IF your car is stolen you’ll get your payout which will give you the chance to start over.

Note : Just make sure your car is insured for an agreed value.

We’ve never experienced car theft. In fact ... no one in our extended family has either. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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