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Re: It's Your ABC!
Reply #15 - Aug 26th, 2023 at 7:16pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 1:33pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:24am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:19am:
Well - its bias is blatant...


The right set up multiple studies to prove that. They pulled all the data to find this fact. The result in multiple occasions was that the ABC leans slightly to the right.

Needless to say that they were disappointed with the result they got, they don't like the truth.

You have some way of backing this up, don't you, duck.
Show us, don't just tell.


Have done that about 20 times - you should get your memory checked.
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Reply #16 - Aug 26th, 2023 at 8:13pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 7:16pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 1:33pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:24am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:19am:
Well - its bias is blatant...


The right set up multiple studies to prove that. They pulled all the data to find this fact. The result in multiple occasions was that the ABC leans slightly to the right.

Needless to say that they were disappointed with the result they got, they don't like the truth.

You have some way of backing this up, don't you, duck.
Show us, don't just tell.


Have done that about 20 times - you should get your memory checked.

Bollocks. You are lying, duckwit. For the 21st time.

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Reply #17 - Aug 26th, 2023 at 8:23pm
 
As has been noted previously, a referendum is not about winning or losing but about seeing if a change to the Constitution is desired by the majority of the people.  However in this 'Voice' referendum the government and most of the media is insinuating that those who vote against this change are racists, and it seems that the AEC is trying to stack the deck as well, with its ticks and crosses statement.   

Very disturbing.
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Reply #18 - Aug 26th, 2023 at 8:47pm
 
There is a big lie being told to the Public by the government and the ABC. It is that the Constitutional amendment is about giving Aboriginals a fairer say in parliament. Sounds reasonable, except that is not what you will be asked on voting day. You will be asked to give parliament the permenant right to give the voice any powers it chooses. I repeat, ANY POWERS. If an LNP government proposed such a right, the Leftists on this forum would go ape-sh1t.
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Reply #19 - Aug 26th, 2023 at 9:03pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 8:47pm:
There is a big lie being told to the Public by the government and the ABC. It is that the Constitutional amendment is about giving Aboriginals a fairer say in parliament. Sounds reasonable, except that is not what you will be asked on voting day. You will be asked to give parliament the permenant right to give the voice any powers it chooses. I repeat, ANY POWERS. If an LNP government proposed such a right, the Leftists on this forum would go ape-sh1t.



You know any government can already up a body with all the powers it wants,  anytime it likes, right?
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Reply #20 - Aug 26th, 2023 at 9:21pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 8:47pm:
There is a big lie being told to the Public by the government and the ABC. It is that the Constitutional amendment is about giving Aboriginals a fairer say in parliament. Sounds reasonable, except that is not what you will be asked on voting day. You will be asked to give parliament the permenant right to give the voice any powers it chooses. I repeat, ANY POWERS. If an LNP government proposed such a right, the Leftists on this forum would go ape-sh1t.

A pertinent point.

Even more pertinent is how long is this legislative string:

Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples



Anyone can make such representations now. You can do it through your parliamentarian or directly by making a submission to parliament, writing to a department or statutory body.


The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures.


Parliament can do that already.


So what is new?

The existence of a Constitutionally enshrined Aboriginal body that is separate from the rest of the Australian body politic. That is the ONLY point of this referendum. From that separateness enshrined in the constitution flows treaty and PERMANENT  separation of Aborigines from the Commonwealth.

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Reply #21 - Aug 26th, 2023 at 9:28pm
 
The ABC thinks so much about outside the east coast, Ita actually came to WA once in four years.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #22 - Aug 26th, 2023 at 9:56pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 9:28pm:
The ABC thinks so much about outside the east coast, Ita actually came to WA once in four years.  Roll Eyes


They had a broadcast capable office there till the Liberals cut the funding for it. In fact Liberal funding cuts resulted in all regional ABC broadcasting to close down.
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Reply #23 - Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:00pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 8:13pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 7:16pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 1:33pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:24am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:19am:
Well - its bias is blatant...


The right set up multiple studies to prove that. They pulled all the data to find this fact. The result in multiple occasions was that the ABC leans slightly to the right.

Needless to say that they were disappointed with the result they got, they don't like the truth.

You have some way of backing this up, don't you, duck.
Show us, don't just tell.


Have done that about 20 times - you should get your memory checked.

Bollocks. You are lying, duckwit. For the 21st time.



You are lying

With your memory issue enFurter how would you know?
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Reply #24 - Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:19pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:00pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 8:13pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 7:16pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 1:33pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:24am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:19am:
Well - its bias is blatant...


The right set up multiple studies to prove that. They pulled all the data to find this fact. The result in multiple occasions was that the ABC leans slightly to the right.

Needless to say that they were disappointed with the result they got, they don't like the truth.

You have some way of backing this up, don't you, duck.
Show us, don't just tell.


Have done that about 20 times - you should get your memory checked.

Bollocks. You are lying, duckwit. For the 21st time.



You are lying

With your memory issue enFurter how would you know?

You forgot to evidence your idiotic assertion that the ABC is right wing, duckwit.

Do remember to show us the evidence.
There's peas in it for you.


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Reply #25 - Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:20pm
 

Quote:
https://www.smh.com.au/national/shock-horror-abc-procoalition-study-20090902-f83...

Shock, horror! ABC pro-Coalition: study


Newspapers are left wing, television is right wing, and the media as a whole tends to favour the Coalition.

And surprisingly, according to researchers from the Australian National University, the ABC Television news is the most pro-Coalition of them all.


Quote:
Former Liberal prime minister John Howard railed against the alleged left-wing bias of the ABC, but the researchers found Aunty was more likely to favour his side.


Researchers pored over news stories from 1996 to 2007 to establish if the media was biased.

The results, released today, point to the media being generally middle-of-the-road, with the Coalition tending to win out.

Researchers found journalists were "a centrist bunch". The exception was ABC TV news, which "had a significant slant towards the Coalition".
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Reply #26 - Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:22pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:19pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:00pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 8:13pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 7:16pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 1:33pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:24am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:19am:
Well - its bias is blatant...


The right set up multiple studies to prove that. They pulled all the data to find this fact. The result in multiple occasions was that the ABC leans slightly to the right.

Needless to say that they were disappointed with the result they got, they don't like the truth.

You have some way of backing this up, don't you, duck.
Show us, don't just tell.


Have done that about 20 times - you should get your memory checked.

Bollocks. You are lying, duckwit. For the 21st time.



You are lying

With your memory issue enFurter how would you know?

You forgot to evidence your idiotic assertion that the ABC is right wing, duckwit.

Do remember to show us the evidence.
There's peas in it for you.




Stories about it have been posted dozens of times but you have forgotten by the next day.
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Reply #27 - Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:27pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:22pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:19pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:00pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 8:13pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 7:16pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 1:33pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:24am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 10:19am:
Well - its bias is blatant...


The right set up multiple studies to prove that. They pulled all the data to find this fact. The result in multiple occasions was that the ABC leans slightly to the right.

Needless to say that they were disappointed with the result they got, they don't like the truth.

You have some way of backing this up, don't you, duck.
Show us, don't just tell.


Have done that about 20 times - you should get your memory checked.

Bollocks. You are lying, duckwit. For the 21st time.



You are lying

With your memory issue enFurter how would you know?

You forgot to evidence your idiotic assertion that the ABC is right wing, duckwit.

Do remember to show us the evidence.
There's peas in it for you.




Stories about it have been posted dozens of times but you have forgotten by the next day.

So you don't remember them either, foggy duck.  Cheesy
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Reply #28 - Aug 27th, 2023 at 12:41am
 
He wrote it Reply #5 - Yesterday at 10:24am
but you forgot by the end of the day.
Like a goldfish.
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Reply #29 - Aug 27th, 2023 at 2:37am
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 9:03pm:
issuevoter wrote on Aug 26th, 2023 at 8:47pm:
There is a big lie being told to the Public by the government and the ABC. It is that the Constitutional amendment is about giving Aboriginals a fairer say in parliament. Sounds reasonable, except that is not what you will be asked on voting day. You will be asked to give parliament the permenant right to give the voice any powers it chooses. I repeat, ANY POWERS. If an LNP government proposed such a right, the Leftists on this forum would go ape-sh1t.



You know any government can already up a body with all the powers it wants,  anytime it likes, right?


Such a body could be dissolved. Not so with the Voice, which would be Constitutional. But you knew that already. So why defend the Labor Party's and the ABC's lie? Its conformation bias, isn't it.
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