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Aug 8th, 2023 at 12:50am
 
I honestly thought every Aussie knew the difference between harmless mushrooms and poisonous ones. I can easily spot harmless mushrooms, I pick them around here in the bush, and plant my foot on any others

If they're white or yellow underneath, don't touch them. If they're domed, don't touch them. If they're flat on top and light brown underneath, they're ok

This female cooked mushrooms for her inlaws but didn't eat any herself, nor would she say where she got them from

She is separated from her partner, the son of two of the dead elderly people

On TV, her body language didn't fit the grave situation that unfolded, with three dead and one fighting for life in hospital. And she got their names mixed up during the Current Affair interview

She was crying but getting something out of the corner of her eye seemed more important. She tried to control the conversation with the interviewer, then headed straight for her front door, refusing to respond any further

https://9now.nine.com.au/a-current-affair/reporter-sam-cucchiara-approaches-vict...

If the detectives apply the "Reid" method of interrogation, they will get the truth out of her, usually it works




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Reply #1 - Aug 8th, 2023 at 1:24am
 

I'm guessing that the oldies didn't get to
see the "mushrooms" before they were
cooked and served up.  I don't really know,
but wouldn't the wrong flavour and aroma
indicate they weren't field mushies?

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Reply #2 - Aug 8th, 2023 at 1:41am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Aug 8th, 2023 at 1:24am:
I'm guessing that the oldies didn't get to
see the "mushrooms" before they were
cooked and served up.  I don't really know,
but wouldn't the wrong flavour and aroma
indicate they weren't field mushies?



Yes, correct ones do have a certain aroma

But I wouldn't have eaten them, not knowing which ones they were, I would have asked her the question, "Which ones did you cook, what did they look like, what colour were they underneath?"

It's possible that since they're daughter inlaw cooked them, they weren't worried, But even the most seemingly innocent people can harbor dark thoughts, and plan accordingly, for example if there is substantial Super accounts, property, or insurance policies



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Reply #3 - Aug 8th, 2023 at 2:16am
 
Yes, I immediately thought of some possible inheritance motivation.

The plot thickens!


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Reply #4 - Aug 8th, 2023 at 8:14am
 
I won't touch mushrooms.....
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Reply #5 - Aug 8th, 2023 at 8:27am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Aug 8th, 2023 at 2:16am:
The plot thickens!



If the casserole had curry, Worcestershire, rosemary and onion, it would be too thick to smell the difference.

'The edible members of the Agaric family all have pink to brown/black gills, a white cap and usually a stout stem with a skirt. There are however toxic members of this family that look very similar.'

There is no home test available to distinguish safe and edible mushrooms from poisonous mushrooms. https://www.health.vic.gov.au/health-advisories/poisonous-mushrooms-growing-in-v...
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Reply #6 - Aug 8th, 2023 at 9:17am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 8th, 2023 at 8:14am:
I won't touch mushrooms.....


I posted pics -
see here:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1691235994/0
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Reply #7 - Aug 8th, 2023 at 11:22am
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 8th, 2023 at 9:17am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 8th, 2023 at 8:14am:
I won't touch mushrooms.....


I posted pics -
see here:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1691235994/0


The second last one looks edible, but it's hard to tell with the terrible lighting conditions they were photographed under

Out in the sunlight, identifying mushrooms that have sprouted up through the night, will be easy if you have been shown by someone who knows

I was shown when I was a kid during early primary school, by a bloke who had a pie making store, we used to pick mushrooms for him, after a while he grew his own mushrooms in the back of the shop. You could see all his pie making going on through the shop front window, very transparent business, all on show for anyone who cared to peer through the large window. Everyone of his pies was a great tasty meal in itself, and a good variety, including mushroom of course

My secret is to target in on the only mushroom that I know is edible and non poisonous, I don't second guess, there's only one I look for, flat top with light brown gills, they can have a rounded top but they must be brown underneath. They are common where ever I've been in my travels, so are the poisonous mushrooms. You've got to know the difference

The lady in question couldn't have bought those mushrooms she cooked from the supermarket, so that leaves either picking them out of the ground, or they were given to her by someone

As Geoff said, the plot thickens






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Reply #8 - Aug 8th, 2023 at 11:34am
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 8th, 2023 at 11:22am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 8th, 2023 at 9:17am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 8th, 2023 at 8:14am:
I won't touch mushrooms.....


I posted pics -
see here:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1691235994/0


The second last one looks edible, but it's hard to tell with the terrible lighting conditions they were photographed under

Out in the sunlight, identifying mushrooms that have sprouted up through the night, will be easy if you have been shown by someone who knows

I was shown when I was a kid during early primary school, by a bloke who had a pie making store, we used to pick mushrooms for him, after a while he grew his own mushrooms in the back of the shop. You could see all his pie making going on through the shop front window, very transparent business, all on show for anyone who cared to peer through the large window. Everyone of his pies was a great tasty meal in itself, and a good variety, including mushroom of course

My secret is to target in on the only mushroom that I know is edible and non poisonous, I don't second guess, there's only one I look for, flat top with light brown gills, they can have a rounded top but they must be brown underneath. They are common where ever I've been in my travels, so are the poisonous mushrooms. You've got to know the difference

The lady in question couldn't have bought those mushrooms she cooked from the supermarket, so that leaves either picking them out of the ground, or they were given to her by someone

As Geoff said, the plot thickens






I uploaded the pic to here:
https://champignouf.com/


...

I think it's: gymnopilus luteus
Or perhaps gymnopilus ventricosus , gymnopilus , gymnopilus spectabilis , or gymnopilus spectabilis
or something totally different!

Warning!!! Many mushrooms look alike and many are toxic!
Champignouf makes a lot of mistakes!
Do not eat mushrooms without being sure they are edible, you could die!



It also says:

Champignouf is an automated mushroom identifier software program, you just have to upload a picture to know what kind of mushroom it could be.
It knows more than 1000 species, and will suggest you results depending on the photo.
Is that a cep, a chanterelle, or something that could kill you? It is still work in progress, and the accuracy is at the moment not that good, but will get better in time.

BE VERY CAREFUL, do not eat any mushroom if you aren't 100% certain they are edible! YOU COULD DIE
Remember that champignouf makes a lot of mistakes, because mushrooms are tricky, and toxic and edible ones can look almost indistinguishable.
Even if it look like the one that Champignouf suggests, and it's edible, DO NOT TRUST OUR RESULTS.
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Reply #9 - Aug 8th, 2023 at 11:52am
 
Toxic femininity
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Reply #10 - Aug 8th, 2023 at 11:53am
 
I thought it would be good to go mushroom hunting a few years ago but
after uploading pictures to many mushroom identifier sites
I realised that there is no 100% way of finding out if they are safe to eat.
I never found exact matches either.

As per the above example - I don't find any with an offset stem.
There are just too many different types of mushrooms -


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fungi_of_Australia

250,000 fungal species
The total number of fungi which actually occur in Australia,
including those not yet discovered, has been estimated at around 250,000 fungal species,
including about 5,000 mushrooms, of which roughly 5% have been described.
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Reply #11 - Aug 8th, 2023 at 11:58am
 
I like gourmet mushrooms but they are very expensive:


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Reply #12 - Aug 8th, 2023 at 1:07pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 8th, 2023 at 11:34am:
BE VERY CAREFUL, do not eat any mushroom if you aren't 100% certain they are edible! YOU COULD DIE


Yeah that's right

I pick only the one species out of the ground, and I don't even know it's scientific name, I just know it's non toxic, I'll never pick any other species

If supermarkets have more than one edible species, that's fine, and you could be reasonably sure they'll be ok

But picking them straight out of the ground is a different matter, mistakes can be made ... and that's what the lady might rely on in her defense, if she did in fact harvest them in the bush

They reckon she didn't eat any though. So, why not? Perhaps she wasn't hungry, but thought her in-laws might like a feed, so she could keep on the right side of them or something, she said she loved them



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Reply #13 - Aug 8th, 2023 at 1:19pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 8th, 2023 at 1:07pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 8th, 2023 at 11:34am:
BE VERY CAREFUL, do not eat any mushroom if you aren't 100% certain they are edible! YOU COULD DIE


Yeah that's right

I pick only the one species out of the ground, and I don't even know it's scientific name, I just know it's non toxic, I'll never pick any other species

If supermarkets have more than one edible species, that's fine, and you could be reasonably sure they'll be ok

But picking them straight out of the ground is a different matter, mistakes can be made ... and that's what the lady might rely on in her defense, if she did in fact harvest them in the bush

They reckon she didn't eat any though. So, why not? Perhaps she wasn't hungry, but thought her in-laws might like a feed, so she could keep on the right side of them or something, she said she loved them.





Yes - as you said:

for example if there is substantial Super accounts, property, or insurance policies.    Embarrassed

I'm sure the cops will investigate it thoroughly.
Colombo is on to her.




If was Columbo I'd take her back to the site where the mushrooms
were picked to see if they can be identified.
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Reply #14 - Aug 8th, 2023 at 5:10pm
 
Edible...
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Just make sure the stem turns blue when pinched/crushed...  Cheesy
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