Australian Politics Forum - Ex Partner Suspected Of Poisoning Inlaws

AusGeoff Gold Member Offline Sage of Gippsland Posts: 6025 Victoria Gender:	Re: Ex Partner Suspected Of Poisoning Inlaws Reply #15 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 2:02am We regularly have dozens of these Amanita muscaria mushrooms growing in our front lawn. They have hallucinogenic properties, courtesy of ibotenic acid and muscimol, are not toxic, but need to be consumed with *extreme* caution.
Back to top	IP Logged

Bobby.

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 118799
Melbourne
Gender: male

Re: Ex Partner Suspected Of Poisoning Inlaws
Reply #16 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 7:06am

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 2:02am:

We regularly have dozens of these
Amanita muscaria mushrooms growing
in our front lawn.

https://i.postimg.cc/DzWChnhQ/1200px-Amanita-muscaria-3-vliegenzwammen-op-rij-1....

They have hallucinogenic properties, courtesy
of ibotenic acid and muscimol, are not toxic,
but need to be consumed with extreme caution.

I've heard of people frying those up with bacon for a yummy meal
and they have no effect whatsoever as you describe.
They are supposed to be very tasty.
Maybe cooking them destroys any active chemicals?

Back to top

IP Logged

Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57732 Gender:	Re: Ex Partner Suspected Of Poisoning Inlaws Reply #17 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 8:51am Bobby. wrote on Aug 8^th, 2023 at 11:58am: I like gourmet mushrooms but they are very expensive: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/112/626/872/original/371c08... Listen to this...
Back to top	Estragon: I can’t go on like this. Vladimir: That’s what you think. IP Logged

Sophia

Gold Member

Offline

Posts: 9567

Re: Ex Partner Suspected Of Poisoning Inlaws
Reply #18 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 9:12am

I honestly can’t understand how she would cook up a meal for all the oldies but not eat it herself. Why not? What did she eat? I mean, as a cook one would at least do taste tests along the way for flavour/salt etc. Did she not even do that?
And then from what I’m reading she’s not helping with the investigation of where the mushrooms came from?
So oddly strange.
We have a lot of mushrooms all sorts in our paddocks including mushrooms that look normal but I read long ago how even these can be toxic. So I have avoided them forever.
Mum told me how dad ate some mushrooms that he picked from fields and ended up sick in hospital. Yet he survived.
That’s all I know. Now I wish I could’ve asked more about it.

The only thing I could think of was he must’ve taste tested during cooking before eating so it might not have been so damaging?
I looked up how long it can take for reaction.

How long does it take to get sick from a poisonous mushroom?
The symptoms usually appear within 20 minutes to 4 hours of ingesting the mushrooms, and include nausea, vomiting, cramps, and diarrhea, which normally pass after the irritant had been expelled. Severe cases may require hospitalization.

Back to top

« Last Edit: Aug 9^th, 2023 at 9:18am by Sophia »

If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand.

Milton Friedman

IP Logged

Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 118799 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Ex Partner Suspected Of Poisoning Inlaws Reply #19 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 11:42am Frank wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 8:51am: Bobby. wrote on Aug 8^th, 2023 at 11:58am: I like gourmet mushrooms but they are very expensive: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/112/626/872/original/371c08... Listen to this... How silly - Shitake mushrooms are the best - LOL
Back to top	IP Logged

Bias_2012

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 10766
Gender: male

Re: Ex Partner Suspected Of Poisoning Inlaws
Reply #20 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 1:20pm

Sophia wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 9:12am:

I honestly can’t understand how she would cook up a meal for all the oldies but not eat it herself. Why not? What did she eat? I mean, as a cook one would at least do taste tests along the way for flavour/salt etc. Did she not even do that?
And then from what I’m reading she’s not helping with the investigation of where the mushrooms came from?
So oddly strange.
We have a lot of mushrooms all sorts in our paddocks including mushrooms that look normal but I read long ago how even these can be toxic. So I have avoided them forever.
Mum told me how dad ate some mushrooms that he picked from fields and ended up sick in hospital. Yet he survived.
That’s all I know. Now I wish I could’ve asked more about it.

The only thing I could think of was he must’ve taste tested during cooking before eating so it might not have been so damaging?
I looked up how long it can take for reaction.

How long does it take to get sick from a poisonous mushroom?
The symptoms usually appear within 20 minutes to 4 hours of ingesting the mushrooms, and include nausea, vomiting, cramps, and diarrhea, which normally pass after the irritant had been expelled. Severe cases may require hospitalization.

She may have known they were poisonous ... it's obvious they weren't from Woolies

Her ex husband got pretty crook some months ago, he ended up in hospital, relatives were called in twice to say their goodbyes .... They say it's not linked to this more recent case

Yesterday it appears she swore at a reporter when she was asked how she was doing, the TV censors beeped it out, whatever it was

The Police are forensically testing a dehydrator seized from a local tip. They must be quite sure it was hers

https://www.9news.com.au/national/mushroom-poison-deaths-leongatha-police-testin...

Back to top

« Last Edit: Aug 9^th, 2023 at 2:02pm by Bias_2012 »

Our Lives Are Governed By The Feast & Famine Variable

IP Logged

Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 118799 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Ex Partner Suspected Of Poisoning Inlaws Reply #21 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 1:25pm dear Bias, Columbo is on to it:
Back to top	IP Logged

Lisa Jones

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 39047
Sydney
Gender: female

Re: Ex Partner Suspected Of Poisoning Inlaws
Reply #22 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 4:09pm

Ok I’m gonna say it: I think there’s more to this news story than meets the eye.

Note : The presumption of innocence which defines our legal system stands. She’s innocent until PROVEN guilty. At this stage the woman hasn’t even been charged with anything.

Having said that : I personally think she’s done something dreadfully wrong. However I do think it’s a case of manslaughter rather than murder.

Let me explain further : The children and this lady never ate any mushrooms - only the adults. Yes? Well that could easily be explained away thus: she and the children NEVER liked/ate mushrooms anyway. I personally believe this is a case of a foolish lady using toadstools instead of mushrooms in her cooking. I could be wrong. But right now that’s what I’m thinking.

Anyone else have a theory about what’s happened?

Back to top

If I let myself be bought then I am no longer free.

HYPATIA - Greek philosopher, mathematician and astronomer (370 - 415)

IP Logged

Bobby.

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 118799
Melbourne
Gender: male

Re: Ex Partner Suspected Of Poisoning Inlaws
Reply #23 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 6:17pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 4:09pm:

Ok I’m gonna say it: I think there’s more to this news story than meets the eye.

Note : The presumption of innocence which defines our legal system stands. She’s innocent until PROVEN guilty. At this stage the woman hasn’t even been charged with anything.

Having said that : I personally think she’s done something dreadfully wrong. However I do think it’s a case of manslaughter rather than murder.

Let me explain further : The children and this lady never ate any mushrooms - only the adults. Yes? Well that could easily be explained away thus: she and the children NEVER liked/ate mushrooms anyway. I personally believe this is a case of a foolish lady using toadstools instead of mushrooms in her cooking. I could be wrong. But right now that’s what I’m thinking.

Anyone else have a theory about what’s happened?

Channel 7 news tonight -

her first story was that she bought the mushrooms from a shop.
Her story then changed. Undecided

Back to top

IP Logged

Bias_2012

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 10766
Gender: male

Re: Ex Partner Suspected Of Poisoning Inlaws
Reply #24 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 6:42pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 4:09pm:

Ok I’m gonna say it: I think there’s more to this news story than meets the eye.

All the reports so far say she cooked Death Cap mushrooms ... why would she serve those up?

"Death cap mushrooms are the most dangerous species"

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-08/victoria-mushrooms-which-types-poisonous-...

Back to top

Our Lives Are Governed By The Feast & Famine Variable

IP Logged

Bias_2012

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 10766
Gender: male

Re: Ex Partner Suspected Of Poisoning Inlaws
Reply #25 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 6:45pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 6:17pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 4:09pm:

Ok I’m gonna say it: I think there’s more to this news story than meets the eye.

Note : The presumption of innocence which defines our legal system stands. She’s innocent until PROVEN guilty. At this stage the woman hasn’t even been charged with anything.

Having said that : I personally think she’s done something dreadfully wrong. However I do think it’s a case of manslaughter rather than murder.

Let me explain further : The children and this lady never ate any mushrooms - only the adults. Yes? Well that could easily be explained away thus: she and the children NEVER liked/ate mushrooms anyway. I personally believe this is a case of a foolish lady using toadstools instead of mushrooms in her cooking. I could be wrong. But right now that’s what I’m thinking.

Anyone else have a theory about what’s happened?

Channel 7 news tonight -

her first story was that she bought the mushrooms from a shop.
Her story then changed. Undecided

Can't imagine any shop selling Death Cap mushrooms

Back to top

Our Lives Are Governed By The Feast & Famine Variable

IP Logged

greggerypeccary

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 151836
Gender: male

Re: Ex Partner Suspected Of Poisoning Inlaws
Reply #26 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 6:48pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 6:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 6:17pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 4:09pm:

Ok I’m gonna say it: I think there’s more to this news story than meets the eye.

Note : The presumption of innocence which defines our legal system stands. She’s innocent until PROVEN guilty. At this stage the woman hasn’t even been charged with anything.

Having said that : I personally think she’s done something dreadfully wrong. However I do think it’s a case of manslaughter rather than murder.

Let me explain further : The children and this lady never ate any mushrooms - only the adults. Yes? Well that could easily be explained away thus: she and the children NEVER liked/ate mushrooms anyway. I personally believe this is a case of a foolish lady using toadstools instead of mushrooms in her cooking. I could be wrong. But right now that’s what I’m thinking.

Anyone else have a theory about what’s happened?

Channel 7 news tonight -

her first story was that she bought the mushrooms from a shop.
Her story then changed. Undecided

Can't imagine any shop selling Death Cap mushrooms

Can't imagine Channel 7 reporting news.

Back to top

GOP = Guardians Of Paedophiles

IP Logged

chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15426 Armidale Gender:	Re: Ex Partner Suspected Of Poisoning Inlaws Reply #27 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 6:49pm If it's her first group-murder, she was told there's no way to trace the stuff, she needs the money and had the flu, then why are the cops coming down so hard? Only crims plan ahead and know the street smarts.
Back to top	« Last Edit: Aug 9^th, 2023 at 7:30pm by chimera » IP Logged

Bobby.

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 118799
Melbourne
Gender: male

Re: Ex Partner Suspected Of Poisoning Inlaws
Reply #28 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 7:17pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 6:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 6:17pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 4:09pm:

Ok I’m gonna say it: I think there’s more to this news story than meets the eye.

Note : The presumption of innocence which defines our legal system stands. She’s innocent until PROVEN guilty. At this stage the woman hasn’t even been charged with anything.

Having said that : I personally think she’s done something dreadfully wrong. However I do think it’s a case of manslaughter rather than murder.

Let me explain further : The children and this lady never ate any mushrooms - only the adults. Yes? Well that could easily be explained away thus: she and the children NEVER liked/ate mushrooms anyway. I personally believe this is a case of a foolish lady using toadstools instead of mushrooms in her cooking. I could be wrong. But right now that’s what I’m thinking.

Anyone else have a theory about what’s happened?

Channel 7 news tonight -

her first story was that she bought the mushrooms from a shop.
Her story then changed. Undecided

Can't imagine any shop selling Death Cap mushrooms

Columbo will ask her questions.

Just one more thing -
we found a food dehydrator at the local tip.
They are used for drying mushrooms aren't they?
Did you send it there?

https://www.9news.com.au/national/mushroom-poison-deaths-leongatha-police-testin...

Back to top

IP Logged

Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21797 Gordon Gender:	Re: Ex Partner Suspected Of Poisoning Inlaws Reply #29 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 7:20pm Women like to kill with poison.
Back to top	IBI IP Logged