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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 17319 Northern NSW Gender:	Concrete and carbon black as a capacitor Aug 5^th, 2023 at 6:19pm Quote: MIT Boffins Build Battery Alternative Out of Cement, Carbon Black, and Wate https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/23/08/05/0112247/mit-boffins-build-battery-a...
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15426 Armidale Gender:	Re: Concrete and carbon black as a capacitor Reply #1 - Aug 5^th, 2023 at 7:36pm So you put solid glass solar panels in the concrete road with the superconductor copper-lead and get free home and car power. If the Greens will allow it.
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Reply #2 - Aug 5^th, 2023 at 7:55pm

chimera wrote on Aug 5^th, 2023 at 7:36pm:

So you put solid glass solar panels in the concrete road with the superconductor copper-lead and get free home and car power. If the Greens will allow it.

How about solar panels on your carport and your car charges wirelessly while parked there on the concrete? Surely even the Greens won't be able to stop that.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15426 Armidale Gender:	Re: Concrete and carbon black as a capacitor Reply #3 - Aug 5^th, 2023 at 8:00pm Or concrete cars and drive all night.
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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 17319 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Concrete and carbon black as a capacitor Reply #4 - Aug 5^th, 2023 at 8:03pm chimera wrote on Aug 5^th, 2023 at 8:00pm: Or concrete cars and drive all night. Well we do have concrete boats, logical extension.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20937 Gender:	Re: Concrete and carbon black as a capacitor Reply #5 - Aug 5^th, 2023 at 8:06pm chimera wrote on Aug 5^th, 2023 at 7:36pm: So you put solid glass solar panels in the concrete road with the superconductor copper-lead and get free home and car power. Nope. The solar panels get black from rubber etc. The solar panels stop working.
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Reply #6 - Aug 5^th, 2023 at 8:07pm

Very interesting. It seems a huge number of people are working on battery technology these days. Something good has to come out of it all. Yet, still we see hostility being passed off as constructive criticism. Its like they don't want electrification to succeed, but they cannot all have a vested interest in fossil fuel.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15426 Armidale Gender:	Re: Concrete and carbon black as a capacitor Reply #7 - Aug 5^th, 2023 at 8:17pm lee wrote on Aug 5^th, 2023 at 8:06pm: The solar panels get black from rubber etc. . Inbuilt drip lines disperse solvent on the glass. https://haz-map.com/Agents/92 Acute exposure to 430 ppm has been reported to cause only slight eye and throat irritation
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Reply #8 - Aug 5^th, 2023 at 9:06pm

chimera wrote on Aug 5^th, 2023 at 8:17pm:

Inbuilt drip lines disperse solvent on the glass.

Made from refined petroleum. Also known as thinners. Just where does this dispersion occur? What scrubs the panel? Thinners is volatile. It rapidly changes to a gas. In the brochure the flash point is 100F.

"A mixture of natural gas distillates with carbon numbers of C5 to C6 and boiling points of 38 deg C to 93 deg C"

"The World's First Solar Road Has Officially Crumbled Into a Total Failure"

https://www.sciencealert.com/the-world-s-first-solar-road-has-turned-out-to-be-a-disappointing-failure

But as an energy store it may work.

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Reply #9 - Aug 6^th, 2023 at 12:26am

Setanta wrote on Aug 5^th, 2023 at 8:03pm:

chimera wrote on Aug 5^th, 2023 at 8:00pm:

Or concrete cars and drive all night.

Well we do have concrete boats, logical extension.

They stopped building ferro cement boats a long time ago.

They don't restore ferro cement boats when they get concrete cancer it's terminal.

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Reply #10 - Aug 6^th, 2023 at 12:31am

Setanta wrote on Aug 5^th, 2023 at 7:55pm:

chimera wrote on Aug 5^th, 2023 at 7:36pm:

So you put solid glass solar panels in the concrete road with the superconductor copper-lead and get free home and car power. If the Greens will allow it.

How about solar panels on your carport and your car charges wirelessly while parked there on the concrete? Surely even the Greens won't be able to stop that.

Do they have wireless car charging?

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Reply #11 - Aug 6^th, 2023 at 1:46am

lee wrote on Aug 5^th, 2023 at 9:06pm:

chimera wrote on Aug 5^th, 2023 at 8:17pm:

Inbuilt drip lines disperse solvent on the glass.

What scrubs the panel? Thinners is volatile..

Car tyres scrub the panel. Add radiator glycol to solvent.
The French road had leaves but Oz doesn't have autumn leaves, and there are no leaves or rubber on the glass there.

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Reply #12 - Aug 6^th, 2023 at 1:54am

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 6^th, 2023 at 12:26am:

They don't restore ferro cement boats when they get concrete cancer it's terminal.

'Dozens of 40-year-old Gold Coast high rise apartment towers built in the 1970s face million-dollar concrete cancer repair jobs similar to the $215 million in repairs needed by Brisbane's City Hall'.

A concrete Kingswood is worth restoring. The old-style steel ones get rusty but. Use aluminium, galvanised or carbon fibre concrete. Ships are in salt-water, cars aren't.

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Reply #13 - Aug 6^th, 2023 at 1:34pm

chimera wrote on Aug 6^th, 2023 at 1:46am:

Car tyres scrub the panel.

That's what leaves the deposit. It won't deposit and clean.

chimera wrote on Aug 6^th, 2023 at 1:46am:

Add radiator glycol to solvent.

It still remains a petroleum product. Glycol leaves a residue.

"Chemicals are frequently needed to clean the glycol system."

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/glycol-system

chimera wrote on Aug 6^th, 2023 at 1:46am:

The French road had leaves but Oz doesn't have autumn leaves, and there are no leaves or rubber on the glass there.

Yeah, now all they have to do is fix the cracks.

"Cracks have appeared, and in 2018, part of the road had to be demolished due to damage from wear and tear."

"The trial road was meant to produce about 150,000 kWh a year, which is enough power to provide light for up to 5,000 people, every day. Instead, it was making just under 80,000 in 2018, and fewer than 40,000 by July 2019."

It lasted less than 3 years. Roll Eyes

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Reply #14 - Aug 6^th, 2023 at 2:16pm

lee wrote on Aug 6^th, 2023 at 1:34pm:

That's what leaves the deposit. It won't deposit and clean.

Glycol leaves a residue.

The car tyres scrub the solvent. For glycol 'the most effective type of cleaner is a very heavy-duty alkaline solution', added to the drip-line. This clears grass from the road-side. Glass is armour laminated from World War II and resists concrete car damage.

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