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Re: You walk onto a plane & see THIS
Reply #30 - Jul 20^th, 2023 at 7:16pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 20^th, 2023 at 3:07pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 20^th, 2023 at 11:51am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 20^th, 2023 at 10:46am:

99% of fat people are fat because of their own doing. Very rarely is it genetic.

They're greedy, arrogant and normally full of excuses as to why they are the way they are.
There's one hole in the head that causes obesity.
Most fat people never close that hole.
They either spew excuses out of it, or shovel shyte into it, but that hole never stops moving and it's why they are the way they are.

There’s no doubt that obesity results from poor and entrenched habits wrt diet and exercise.

Unfortunately this means esp after some time...that their mindset is enslaved also. In fact obesity affected individuals often have psychological/psychiatric issues which manifest through their obesity. Unaddressed childhood abuse/trauma/neglect issues can be a primary causal factor.

As parents ... we must be on the look out at all times for any signs dysfunction in our children. Obesity is one such dysfunction and the inability to control food intake in general should ring alarm bells in any person who we interact with. I don’t think those alarm bells should be prompting us to denigrate such individuals. They deserve our pity and compassion as well as a kind word of encouragement to help them cautiously navigate their way out of the darkness of the cave they’re trapped in.

I refuse to be politically correct ESP when it comes to the issue of obesity. Obesity is NOT normal and it’s NOT healthy. People’s life expectancy and ability to live an independent life are at risk. They place themselves and others around them at risk of harm. All this ultimately costs the community (ie the tax payer) a lot of money to sort out. Our health system is already bankrupt compliments of the baby boomer/aging population phenomenon. The current unresolved Covid19 global pandemic has only magnified/intensified the lack of funding which SHOULD be available but isn’t.

Take Away Point 👉 We who are Gen X, Y etc MUST undertake all due diligence to ensure we remain HEALTHY, ABLE and OUT of ALL hospital systems. That must be our priority if we are to be part of the solution and not the problem.

Agree.

We've traded good health, for the easy life.

I get so frustrated when I see a pair of obese parents with a young child that is also well over weight.
That is a form of child abuse imo.
Then we have these obese you tubers trying to glorify their own sickness and getting applauded for doing so.
Society should instead be truthful with them, not encouraging them.

I know some overweight adults who fully understand what they're doing and decided they prefer to guzzle the food and wine. All power to them if they enjoy it and accept the consequences and don't lay blame anywhere else.

But people with overweight kids, unacceptable.

This happened today. My 16 year old girl was a very good cross country runner (she's parked all competitive sport for years 11/12) and my 6 year old boy wants to be better at everything than her, so I've been doing proper running training, and now doing a 2k twice a week together. Today we were at an oval that's also a busy dog park, so many people were giving nods of approval and little cheers seeing a little bloke out running laps.

That makes it so obvious that exercise is universally understood to be such worthy part of life.

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Violet Crumble Gold Member Offline Posts: 576	Re: You walk onto a plane & see THIS Reply #31 - Jul 20^th, 2023 at 8:30pm Anatomically modern humans have existed for 250,000 years. The fatties we see today didn't even begin to exist until after WWII so please stop with the "genetic" nonsense.
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57964 Gender:	Re: You walk onto a plane & see THIS Reply #32 - Jul 20^th, 2023 at 11:01pm 25,000 BC. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_Willendorf
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90157 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: You walk onto a plane & see THIS Reply #33 - Jul 20^th, 2023 at 11:43pm You walk onto a plane - the refueling staff tell you to get the phark off! Modern day America, you walk onto a plane, security shoots you like a dog.
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Reply #34 - Jul 21^st, 2023 at 1:50am

I think there’s a more common problematic issue with plane seats… for taller people… leg room.
My hubby is 5’11”tall and in planes, his knees are crammed up against front seat!
He’s onk 83 kgs and it’s not width required, it’s length.
The airline companies are trying to squeeze in more passenger seats by shortening leg room space!
And… if you want more leg room … you have to pay extra!

We once travelled business class to Singapore… there was a fantastic special of $800 each instead of $400 cattle class…. So I grabbed the chance to tick it off bucket list.
I loved the noise cancelling earphones…. Couldn’t hear the plane engine at all!
And as much Baileys on ice as I wanted

Apart from that … the cattle class seat space is atrocious!
The worst (and last time I travelled international) with China Eastern in 2019 (before corona) was the worst flight, our morning plane was late and cancelled us out to get next flight 8 pm and I was stuck in the middle aisle of 4 seats and my ankles just blew up! So late in the day then 14 hour flight… I had never had such swollen ankles and I was frightened… I got out of seat walking up and down aisles and then went and stood in kitchen at 2am….just mortified and tired wishing I could sleep but worried instead about this DVT…..then a airline hostess came to get some ice…lightbulb moment…. I had an idea… I asked if I could have ice in 2 plastic bags.
He agreed and I went back to seat, put ice on ankles, and swelling eased!
Now for anyone else my ankles may not have looked swollen because I have very skinny ankles… but it felt like they were ballooned and about to burst.
As for arm rests… it’s only one shared between 2 people … it’s hard to keep arms and elbows pushed inwards towards body, trying to maintain your own space, there are bigger or taller people and it must deter them from travelling on planes much due to space/comfort issues.
Anyway, elbows are the least of my worries now I know my ankles could play havoc with me!

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Re: You walk onto a plane & see THIS
Reply #35 - Jul 21^st, 2023 at 7:11am

Violet Crumble wrote on Jul 20^th, 2023 at 8:30pm:

The fatties we see today didn't even begin to exist until after WWII so please stop with the "genetic" nonsense.

utter crap

https://shemightbe.co.uk/plus-size-women-throughout-history-women-renaissance/

the only reason you see more of it after WWII is because before that going hungry was the norm for many people.

Next you'll be arguing those starving from famine in Africa are the norm Cheesy

There was a study once that showed that if your parents or grandparents went through prolonged periods of hunger (WWI and WWII) your cells 'remember' that period of starvation and store fat in preparation for the next period of starvation. THAT IS GENETICS.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: You walk onto a plane & see THIS Reply #36 - Jul 21^st, 2023 at 7:14am So the fact that I am, oooh, 250g heavier than I should be?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: You walk onto a plane & see THIS Reply #37 - Jul 21^st, 2023 at 7:15am More people are fat these days because of the use of high fructose corn syrups in EVERYTHING!
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Re: You walk onto a plane & see THIS
Reply #38 - Jul 21^st, 2023 at 7:35am

Violet Crumble wrote on Jul 20^th, 2023 at 8:30pm:

Anatomically modern humans have existed for 250,000 years. The fatties we see today didn't even begin to exist until after WWII so please stop with the "genetic" nonsense.

Even in the 1970s - fat people were rare but now
about half of all people over 50 are obese.
Many kids at schools are obese.
I blame junk food including "dial a pizza"

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36389 Gender:	Re: You walk onto a plane & see THIS Reply #39 - Jul 21^st, 2023 at 7:51am The levels of ignorance displayed on this thread are, as usual, dizzying. But this is what you get from an AiA troll thread.
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Re: You walk onto a plane & see THIS
Reply #40 - Jul 21^st, 2023 at 7:55am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 21^st, 2023 at 7:35am:

Violet Crumble wrote on Jul 20^th, 2023 at 8:30pm:

Anatomically modern humans have existed for 250,000 years. The fatties we see today didn't even begin to exist until after WWII so please stop with the "genetic" nonsense.

Even in the 1970s - fat people were rare but now
about half of all people over 50 are obese.
Many kids at schools are obese.
I blame junk food including "dial a pizza"

Don’t forget the artificial flavours/preservatives in foods we buy from the supermarket. Even the fruit and veg is chemically treated. And we bring all this home to cook food for our family thinking it’s so much healthier.

I try hard to grow as much as I can as nothing beats home grown organic fruit and vegetables. Ohhhh it’s difficult to mention stuff like this as I still miss mum. She taught me everything about growing fruit and veges. Mum’s entire backyard was her farmlet and we loved helping her turn it into a garden of Eden. Free of pesticides. All natural.

We just need to go back to those days. But no one understands/wants to understand such a message.

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Re: You walk onto a plane & see THIS
Reply #41 - Jul 21^st, 2023 at 8:09am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 21^st, 2023 at 7:55am:

Don’t forget the artificial flavours/preservatives in foods we buy from the supermarket. Even the fruit and veg is chemically treated. And we bring all this home to cook food for our family thinking it’s so much healthier.

I try hard to grow as much as I can as nothing beats home grown organic fruit and vegetables. Ohhhh it’s difficult to mention stuff like this as I still miss mum. She taught me everything about growing fruit and veges. Mum’s entire backyard was her farmlet and we loved helping her turn it into a garden of Eden. Free of pesticides. All natural.

We just need to go back to those days. But no one understands/wants to understand such a message.

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Hi Lisa,
even 15 years ago and it's worse now:

https://www.cyclehelmets.org/1193.html

Australia: the world's fattest nation
A public health crisis

Australia is now the fattest nation in the world, with more than 9 million adults rated as obese or overweight. (Stewart et al, 2008)

It is predicted that this will lead to 123,000 premature deaths over the next two decades and that an extra 700,000 people will be admitted to hospital for heart attacks, strokes and blood clots caused by excess weight. The costs will exceed AUD 6 billion.

4 million Australians – 26% of the adult population – are now obese and a further 5 million overweight. But among the middle-aged population, who are most at risk of premature death,
72% of men and 58% of women are obese or overweight.

The grim picture is blamed on a boom in fast food and a decline in physical activity. It is said to be a public health crisis with no parallel.

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Re: You walk onto a plane & see THIS
Reply #42 - Jul 21^st, 2023 at 8:19am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 21^st, 2023 at 8:09am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 21^st, 2023 at 7:55am:

Don’t forget the artificial flavours/preservatives in foods we buy from the supermarket. Even the fruit and veg is chemically treated. And we bring all this home to cook food for our family thinking it’s so much healthier.

I try hard to grow as much as I can as nothing beats home grown organic fruit and vegetables. Ohhhh it’s difficult to mention stuff like this as I still miss mum. She taught me everything about growing fruit and veges. Mum’s entire backyard was her farmlet and we loved helping her turn it into a garden of Eden. Free of pesticides. All natural.

We just need to go back to those days. But no one understands/wants to understand such a message.

😔😩🥺

Hi Lisa,
even 15 years ago and it's worse now:

https://www.cyclehelmets.org/1193.html

Australia: the world's fattest nation
A public health crisis

Australia is now the fattest nation in the world, with more than 9 million adults rated as obese or overweight. (Stewart et al, 2008)

It is predicted that this will lead to 123,000 premature deaths over the next two decades and that an extra 700,000 people will be admitted to hospital for heart attacks, strokes and blood clots caused by excess weight. The costs will exceed AUD 6 billion.

4 million Australians – 26% of the adult population – are now obese and a further 5 million overweight. But among the middle-aged population, who are most at risk of premature death,
72% of men and 58% of women are obese or overweight.

The grim picture is blamed on a boom in fast food and a decline in physical activity. It is said to be a public health crisis with no parallel.

Excellent post!

Now go back (you’ll have to ignore/overlook the tosspot Methra troll’s post) and get to Gordon’s post. Gordon talks about the need to exercise more.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: You walk onto a plane & see THIS Reply #43 - Jul 21^st, 2023 at 8:21am Violet Crumble wrote on Jul 20^th, 2023 at 8:30pm: Anatomically modern humans have existed for 250,000 years. The fatties we see today didn't even begin to exist until after WWII so please stop with the "genetic" nonsense. Bullshit! What about the Venus of Willendorf?
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Re: You walk onto a plane & see THIS
Reply #44 - Jul 21^st, 2023 at 8:26am

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 21^st, 2023 at 8:21am:

Violet Crumble wrote on Jul 20^th, 2023 at 8:30pm:

Anatomically modern humans have existed for 250,000 years. The fatties we see today didn't even begin to exist until after WWII so please stop with the "genetic" nonsense.

Bullshit! What about the Venus of Willendorf?

Of course it's bullshit.

Not that that matters around here.

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