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Violet Crumble
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You walk onto a plane & see THIS
Jul 20th, 2023 at 4:19am
 
I don't think I'd say much anything to her not wanting to offend her. But this is a very real, daily scenario. Not only is her fat spilling over into the next seat, but her little breather is also resting on the seat. In this case, maybe she purchased two seats in which case, it shouldn't be an issue. But can you imagine if you're that poor person stuck in the middle seat? And you can't even rest your arms on the armrests because of this piece of lard and maybe the other person hogging the armrests on that side? Jesus, flying is becoming a literal nightmare.

https://twitter.com/ElonMuskAOC/status/1681134737971355648

Last year I was waiting for a flight and saw a massively fat couple traveling together and said a silent prayer hoping I would not have to sit next to them. And my prayers were answered!
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Reply #1 - Jul 20th, 2023 at 5:24am
 
a sad reflection on the manipulation by big food that we have to accept obesity as the new norm

call someone fat on social media and they will close your account, such is the power of coca cola, kelloggs and mcdonalds (major advertisors on all platforms)
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Reply #2 - Jul 20th, 2023 at 6:21am
 

Well, I guess it's difficult to comment appropriately
considering that we know nothing of this woman's
medical background or possible chronic condition—or
whether she paid for two seats (which I'm guessing
she did, under commercial airlines policy).

Whatever, this type of public "fat shaming" is
offensive and could easily cause this unfortunate
woman a lot of unnecessary mental distress, which
could exacerbate an already fragile mindset.

I'm also sorry that you've chosen to share in her
bullying by further exposing this gratuitous image,
Violet Crumble, (ironically with 58g sugar per 100g in
every bar).  And to describe her as "a piece of lard"
only piles further offence on your already bigoted
opinion.

You might like to check out this Wikipedia entry:
Social stigma of obesity in order to correct your
ill-informed, stigmatising opinion.

You do know don't you that your sort of fat-shaming
aligns very closely with racism—that is unreasonable
dislike or aversion to "the other"?   Or maybe you don't?

—And of course, our resident health guru Aquascoot
has to get his 2 cents-worth in about his favourite
old warhorse;  overweight, slack and idle people
eating to much convenience food.    He even opines
that obesity can exacerbate contracting COVID!   LOL.

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Reply #3 - Jul 20th, 2023 at 7:36am
 
Woman starts petition demanding airlines give plus-size flyers free seats

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/woman-starts-petition-de...
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Reply #4 - Jul 20th, 2023 at 7:52am
 
The airlines should have super large seats for fat people and
those people should pay double the price for their air ticket.
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Reply #5 - Jul 20th, 2023 at 8:18am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 20th, 2023 at 7:52am:
The airlines should have super large seats for fat people and
those people should pay double the price for their air ticket.


Just take the total weight of passenger plus their bags and have extra wide seats for fatties which cost extra.
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Reply #6 - Jul 20th, 2023 at 8:25am
 


I guess it's difficult to fairly judge the physical size
and mass of somebody—particularly—on an airline,
because of the implications of potentially invasive
questioning and/or a breach of a person's right to
privacy.

There are genuine medical causes in some cases for
obesity: Cushing’s Syndrome, hypothyroidism or
monogenic obesity for example.

So... can an airline booking agent ask specifically for
evidence of a medical condition?  Would that overrule
the personal rights of an overweight person?  At what
point would a person's weight trigger extra charges?

It's a tricky scenario.      Cool

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Reply #7 - Jul 20th, 2023 at 8:49am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Jul 20th, 2023 at 8:25am:
I guess it's difficult to fairly judge the physical size
and mass of somebody—particularly—on an airline,
because of the implications of potentially invasive
questioning and/or a breach of a person's right to
privacy.

There are genuine medical causes in some cases for
obesity: Cushing’s Syndrome, hypothyroidism or
monogenic obesity for example.

So... can an airline booking agent ask specifically for
evidence of a medical condition?  Would that overrule
the personal rights of an overweight person?  At what
point would a person's weight trigger extra charges?

It's a tricky scenario.      Cool




Just put them on some scales.


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Reply #8 - Jul 20th, 2023 at 8:56am
 
I always wonder if these people are the size they are due to factors within their control or not. If the first I have no sympathy for them and don't believe any special accommodation need be made for them. If otherwise then there should be some allowances made for their condition.
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Reply #9 - Jul 20th, 2023 at 9:16am
 
Genetic conditions that CONTRIBUTE to obesity are extremely rare.

Even these rare genetic conditions don't CAUSE weight gain but mess with intake regulation which makes appetite control difficult. I have sympathy for genuine sufferers of that but the ball is in their court. Genes don't always mean destiny.

Take any obese person, limit their caloric intake to 800 calories per day and get them to walk for an hour and the weight will drop off.
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Reply #10 - Jul 20th, 2023 at 10:46am
 
99% of fat people are fat because of their own doing. Very rarely is it genetic.

They're greedy, arrogant and normally full of excuses as to why they are the way they are.
There's one hole in the head that causes obesity.
Most fat people never close that hole.
They either spew excuses out of it, or shovel shyte into it, but that hole never stops moving and it's why they are the way they are.
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Reply #11 - Jul 20th, 2023 at 11:01am
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 20th, 2023 at 10:46am:
99% of fat people are fat because of their own doing. Very rarely is it genetic...


There's an estimated 1,800 to 2,000 people in
Australia suffering from Cushing's syndrome. More
than 40 people a year are newly diagnosed with
the condition.

Is that very rare?      You tell me.    Roll Eyes

An interesting report HERE on the genetics of obesity.


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Reply #12 - Jul 20th, 2023 at 11:24am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Jul 20th, 2023 at 11:01am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 20th, 2023 at 10:46am:
99% of fat people are fat because of their own doing. Very rarely is it genetic...


There's an estimated 1,800 to 2,000 people in
Australia suffering from Cushing's syndrome. More
than 40 people a year are newly diagnosed with
the condition.

Is that very rare?      You tell me.    Roll Eyes

An interesting report HERE on the genetics of obesity.




From your own link Geoff :

Syndromic obesity

Obesity is sometimes part of a RARE but recognised syndrome characterised by cognitive delay, dysmorphic features and organ-specific abnormalities.
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Reply #13 - Jul 20th, 2023 at 11:31am
 
Violet Crumble wrote on Jul 20th, 2023 at 4:19am:
I don't think I'd say much anything to her not wanting to offend her. But this is a very real, daily scenario. Not only is her fat spilling over into the next seat, but her little breather is also resting on the seat. In this case, maybe she purchased two seats in which case, it shouldn't be an issue. But can you imagine if you're that poor person stuck in the middle seat? And you can't even rest your arms on the armrests because of this piece of lard and maybe the other person hogging the armrests on that side? Jesus, flying is becoming a literal nightmare.

https://twitter.com/ElonMuskAOC/status/1681134737971355648

Last year I was waiting for a flight and saw a massively fat couple traveling together and said a silent prayer hoping I would not have to sit next to them. And my prayers were answered!



You shouldn't put up links to photos of Lisa on here. It's against FD's rules
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Reply #14 - Jul 20th, 2023 at 11:51am
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 20th, 2023 at 10:46am:
99% of fat people are fat because of their own doing. Very rarely is it genetic.

They're greedy, arrogant and normally full of excuses as to why they are the way they are.
There's one hole in the head that causes obesity.
Most fat people never close that hole.
They either spew excuses out of it, or shovel shyte into it, but that hole never stops moving and it's why they are the way they are.


There’s no doubt that obesity results from poor and entrenched habits wrt diet and exercise.

Unfortunately this means esp after some time...that their mindset is enslaved also. In fact obesity affected individuals often have psychological/psychiatric issues which manifest through their obesity. Unaddressed childhood abuse/trauma/neglect issues can be a primary causal factor.

As parents ... we must be on the look out at all times for any signs dysfunction in our children. Obesity is one such dysfunction and the inability to control food intake in general should ring alarm bells in any person who we interact with. I don’t think those alarm bells should be prompting us to denigrate such individuals. They deserve our pity and compassion as well as a kind word of encouragement to help them cautiously navigate their way out of the darkness of the cave they’re trapped in.

I refuse to be politically correct ESP when it comes to the issue of obesity. Obesity is NOT normal and it’s NOT healthy. People’s life expectancy and ability to live an independent life are at risk. They place themselves and others around them at risk of harm. All this ultimately costs the community (ie the tax payer) a lot of money to sort out. Our health system is already bankrupt compliments of the baby boomer/aging population phenomenon. The current unresolved Covid19 global pandemic has only magnified/intensified the lack of funding which SHOULD be available but isn’t.

Take Away Point 👉 We who are Gen X, Y etc MUST undertake all due diligence to ensure we remain HEALTHY, ABLE and OUT of ALL hospital systems. That must be our priority if we are to be part of the solution and not the problem.


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