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Re: Welcome to my land
Reply #15 - Jun 29^th, 2023 at 5:04pm

Frank wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 3:37pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 2:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 2:04pm:

How Culture A used to be Roll Eyes

You didn't read the title of that pic did you... Grin

"Gin Lane" - it was a warning about the dangers of easily available and cheap Gin at the turn of the 19th century in London, Unsub. I was aware of the cartoon since the mid-1980s, so how didn't I read the title? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You 'forgot' to post its companion piece, Beer Street, sneaky cockwomble.

https://www.royalacademy.org.uk/art-artists/work-of-art/beer-street-1

Or that Culture A invented the steam engine and industrial revolution around the same time while Culture B couldn't even boil water.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, really? Was Charles Sturt lying when he recorded Indigenous people preparing wild rice? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Welcome to my land
Reply #16 - Jun 29^th, 2023 at 5:18pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 5:04pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 3:37pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 2:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 2:04pm:

How Culture A used to be Roll Eyes

You didn't read the title of that pic did you... Grin

"Gin Lane" - it was a warning about the dangers of easily available and cheap Gin at the turn of the 19th century in London, Unsub. I was aware of the cartoon since the mid-1980s, so how didn't I read the title? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You 'forgot' to post its companion piece, Beer Street, sneaky cockwomble.

https://www.royalacademy.org.uk/art-artists/work-of-art/beer-street-1

Or that Culture A invented the steam engine and industrial revolution around the same time while Culture B couldn't even boil water.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, really? Was Charles Sturt lying when he record Indigenous people preparing wild rice? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Using European utensils.

They broil indiscriminately all substances which they eat. Though they boil
water in small quantities in oyster shells for particular purposes,
they never conceived it possible until shown by us, to dress meat
by this method, having no vessel capable of containing a fish or a bird
which would stand fire. Two of them once stole twelve pounds of rice
and carried it off. They knew how we cooked it, and by way of putting it
in practice they spread the rice on the ground before a fire,
and as it grew hot continued to throw water on it. Their ingenuity was
however very ill rewarded, for the rice became so mingled with the dirt
and sand on which it was laid, that even they could not eat it,
and the whole was spoiled.]
https://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks/e00084.txt

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Re: Welcome to my land
Reply #17 - Jun 29^th, 2023 at 5:46pm

Frank wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 5:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 5:04pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 3:37pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 2:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 2:04pm:

How Culture A used to be Roll Eyes

You didn't read the title of that pic did you... Grin

"Gin Lane" - it was a warning about the dangers of easily available and cheap Gin at the turn of the 19th century in London, Unsub. I was aware of the cartoon since the mid-1980s, so how didn't I read the title? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You 'forgot' to post its companion piece, Beer Street, sneaky cockwomble.

https://www.royalacademy.org.uk/art-artists/work-of-art/beer-street-1

Or that Culture A invented the steam engine and industrial revolution around the same time while Culture B couldn't even boil water.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, really? Was Charles Sturt lying when he record Indigenous people preparing wild rice? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Using European utensils.

That is one version of events. Indigenous people often boiled water using fresh leaves and wood coolabahs, Soren. Just goes to show how little you know or understand Indigenous peoples' culture. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 17204 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Welcome to my land Reply #18 - Jun 29^th, 2023 at 6:31pm This is how you boil water if your only tools are fire and stone. Skin a roo, scrape then tan it's skin with ashes. Use stick to let the skins/wood make a bowl like a reverse teepee., fill with water, heat stones on fire put them in water, add rice. I wonder if they worked that out. I would hope they did.
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Reply #19 - Jun 29^th, 2023 at 8:38pm

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Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples also employ heat transfer by convection when heating liquids over a fire. When air is heated by fire, the warmer air becomes less dense than the cool air and it rises, and is then replaced by the cooler air underneath. Placing a vessel of water over a fire allows the heat energy from rising air to contact the vessel and transfer heat to the object. The water closest to the heat source in the vessel warms and rises, being replaced by cooler, more dense water molecules to create a convection current. The continual exchange of water molecules in this way results in the entire vessel of water being heated to the desired temperature. Prior to colonisation, the Kuku-Yalanji Peoples of the rainforest region of far north Queensland used large bailer (melon) shells or bark troughs for boiling water over a fire. The Meriam Peoples of Mer Island in the Torres Strait boil water or coconut milk in a bailer shell over a fire, with the large shell supported over the fire on stones. Alternatively, water is heated by adding hot stones into the vessel of water. Tubers, roots, fish and meats are then cooked or boiled in the heated liquid. These processes require an understanding of the transfer of heat through both convection and conduction processes

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Bark troughs

Used to boil water on the open fire (large seas shells were also used for this job). The bark troughs were also employed to help separate seeds from other rubbish that may have been gathered with them (dirt and bark etc). Seeds were tossed into the air and then caught again in the trough. The lighter rubbish would blow away in the wind as the heavier seeds fell back into the trough. Heavier rubbish was later separated from the seeds by swaying the trough in a rocking motion.

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Both were found after a five minute Google. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #20 - Jun 29^th, 2023 at 9:57pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 8:38pm:

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Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples also employ heat transfer by convection when heating liquids over a fire. When air is heated by fire, the warmer air becomes less dense than the cool air and it rises, and is then replaced by the cooler air underneath. Placing a vessel of water over a fire allows the heat energy from rising air to contact the vessel and transfer heat to the object. The water closest to the heat source in the vessel warms and rises, being replaced by cooler, more dense water molecules to create a convection current. The continual exchange of water molecules in this way results in the entire vessel of water being heated to the desired temperature. Prior to colonisation, the Kuku-Yalanji Peoples of the rainforest region of far north Queensland used large bailer (melon) shells or bark troughs for boiling water over a fire. The Meriam Peoples of Mer Island in the Torres Strait boil water or coconut milk in a bailer shell over a fire, with the large shell supported over the fire on stones. Alternatively, water is heated by adding hot stones into the vessel of water. Tubers, roots, fish and meats are then cooked or boiled in the heated liquid. These processes require an understanding of the transfer of heat through both convection and conduction processes

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Bark troughs

Used to boil water on the open fire (large seas shells were also used for this job). The bark troughs were also employed to help separate seeds from other rubbish that may have been gathered with them (dirt and bark etc). Seeds were tossed into the air and then caught again in the trough. The lighter rubbish would blow away in the wind as the heavier seeds fell back into the trough. Heavier rubbish was later separated from the seeds by swaying the trough in a rocking motion.

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Both were found after a five minute Google. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/s/Steam_engine.htm

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Reply #21 - Jun 29^th, 2023 at 10:48pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 8:38pm:

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Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples also employ heat transfer by convection when heating liquids over a fire. When air is heated by fire, the warmer air becomes less dense than the cool air and it rises, and is then replaced by the cooler air underneath. Placing a vessel of water over a fire allows the heat energy from rising air to contact the vessel and transfer heat to the object. The water closest to the heat source in the vessel warms and rises, being replaced by cooler, more dense water molecules to create a convection current. The continual exchange of water molecules in this way results in the entire vessel of water being heated to the desired temperature. Prior to colonisation, the Kuku-Yalanji Peoples of the rainforest region of far north Queensland used large bailer (melon) shells or bark troughs for boiling water over a fire. The Meriam Peoples of Mer Island in the Torres Strait boil water or coconut milk in a bailer shell over a fire, with the large shell supported over the fire on stones. Alternatively, water is heated by adding hot stones into the vessel of water. Tubers, roots, fish and meats are then cooked or boiled in the heated liquid. These processes require an understanding of the transfer of heat through both convection and conduction processes

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Quote:

Bark troughs

Used to boil water on the open fire (large seas shells were also used for this job). The bark troughs were also employed to help separate seeds from other rubbish that may have been gathered with them (dirt and bark etc). Seeds were tossed into the air and then caught again in the trough. The lighter rubbish would blow away in the wind as the heavier seeds fell back into the trough. Heavier rubbish was later separated from the seeds by swaying the trough in a rocking motion.

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Both were found after a five minute Google. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Absolutely amazing! So the first inventors (LMAO) worked out that you could boil water in a seashell and that hot air rises? I'm astounded!!!

If that's right - that last - why is Canberra not higher than Mt Kosciusko, smarty-pants?

AND the crafty buggars learned how to winnow seeds from chaff!!! The bastards.... snuck another one up on us all, eh?

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Re: Welcome to my land
Reply #22 - Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:17am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 3:22pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 2:24pm:

You should take pity on your own state of wretchedness.

Oh! Oh! Oh! My ancestors escaped Industrialised Europe where the workers there were downtrodden by enslavement type work. I demand thegreatdivide compensate me and my family for the psychological damage done to my ancestors for not accepting my great-great grandparents as part of Australia.

go make your claim in Europe.

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Reply #23 - Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:23am

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:17am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 3:22pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 2:24pm:

You should take pity on your own state of wretchedness.

Oh! Oh! Oh! My ancestors escaped Industrialised Europe where the workers there were downtrodden by enslavement type work. I demand thegreatdivide compensate me and my family for the psychological damage done to my ancestors for not accepting my great-great grandparents as part of Australia.

go make your claim in Europe.

Oh, but thegreatdivide won't share with me my land that has been in my possession ever since my great-great grandparents arrived here in the late 1800s. The very least he could do is let me have half his pay and let me convalesce from this psychological trauma. After all, my countrymen did invite his ancestors to become citizens of this country.

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Reply #24 - Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:26am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:23am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:17am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 3:22pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 2:24pm:

You should take pity on your own state of wretchedness.

Oh! Oh! Oh! My ancestors escaped Industrialised Europe where the workers there were downtrodden by enslavement type work. I demand thegreatdivide compensate me and my family for the psychological damage done to my ancestors for not accepting my great-great grandparents as part of Australia.

go make your claim in Europe.

Oh, but thegreatdivide won't share with me my land that has been in my possession ever since my great-great grandparents arrived here in the late 1800s. The very least he could do is let me have half his pay and let me convalesce from this psychological trauma. After all, my countrymen did invite his ancestors to become citizens of this country.

come back to me in 60 000 years. Until then, keep bludging

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Reply #25 - Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:27am

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:26am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:23am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:17am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 3:22pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 2:24pm:

You should take pity on your own state of wretchedness.

Oh! Oh! Oh! My ancestors escaped Industrialised Europe where the workers there were downtrodden by enslavement type work. I demand thegreatdivide compensate me and my family for the psychological damage done to my ancestors for not accepting my great-great grandparents as part of Australia.

go make your claim in Europe.

Oh, but thegreatdivide won't share with me my land that has been in my possession ever since my great-great grandparents arrived here in the late 1800s. The very least he could do is let me have half his pay and let me convalesce from this psychological trauma. After all, my countrymen did invite his ancestors to become citizens of this country.

come back to me in 60 000 years. Until then, keep bludging

Thanks man. I will do as you ask and keep bludging.

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Reply #26 - Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:32am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:27am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:26am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:23am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:17am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 3:22pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 2:24pm:

You should take pity on your own state of wretchedness.

Oh! Oh! Oh! My ancestors escaped Industrialised Europe where the workers there were downtrodden by enslavement type work. I demand thegreatdivide compensate me and my family for the psychological damage done to my ancestors for not accepting my great-great grandparents as part of Australia.

go make your claim in Europe.

Oh, but thegreatdivide won't share with me my land that has been in my possession ever since my great-great grandparents arrived here in the late 1800s. The very least he could do is let me have half his pay and let me convalesce from this psychological trauma. After all, my countrymen did invite his ancestors to become citizens of this country.

come back to me in 60 000 years. Until then, keep bludging

Thanks man. I will do as you ask and keep bludging.

Off that I have no doubt

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #27 - Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:41am

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:32am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:27am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:26am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:23am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:17am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 3:22pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 2:24pm:

You should take pity on your own state of wretchedness.

Oh! Oh! Oh! My ancestors escaped Industrialised Europe where the workers there were downtrodden by enslavement type work. I demand thegreatdivide compensate me and my family for the psychological damage done to my ancestors for not accepting my great-great grandparents as part of Australia.

go make your claim in Europe.

Oh, but thegreatdivide won't share with me my land that has been in my possession ever since my great-great grandparents arrived here in the late 1800s. The very least he could do is let me have half his pay and let me convalesce from this psychological trauma. After all, my countrymen did invite his ancestors to become citizens of this country.

come back to me in 60 000 years. Until then, keep bludging

Thanks man. I will do as you ask and keep bludging.

Off that I have no doubt

Ah-ah-ahhh!

We agreed not to interact until June 30th, 62,023, at 8:26am.

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Reply #29 - Jun 30^th, 2023 at 1:57pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:26am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:23am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 8:17am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 3:22pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 29^th, 2023 at 2:24pm:

You should take pity on your own state of wretchedness.

Oh! Oh! Oh! My ancestors escaped Industrialised Europe where the workers there were downtrodden by enslavement type work. I demand thegreatdivide compensate me and my family for the psychological damage done to my ancestors for not accepting my great-great grandparents as part of Australia.

go make your claim in Europe.

Oh, but thegreatdivide won't share with me my land that has been in my possession ever since my great-great grandparents arrived here in the late 1800s. The very least he could do is let me have half his pay and let me convalesce from this psychological trauma. After all, my countrymen did invite his ancestors to become citizens of this country.

come back to me in 60 000 years. Until then, keep bludging

Rocky did you read that? Five Foot Five Frodo’s last drug fried brain cell has told everyone what it believes - he’s going to be around in 60 000 yrs 😂🤣😆

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