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Mums/Bubs/Guns - What Can Possibly Go Wrong?
Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 1:56pm

https://au.yahoo.com/news/two-old-boy-accidentally-shoots-162327606.html

👆 This for starters.

Two-year-old boy accidentally shoots and kills his pregnant mother with gun left on nightstand
Thu, 22 June 2023, 2:23 am

RIP 🌹 Mum and 🌹 Bub

The surviving toddler and his dad have been given life sentences. 🥺😔😩

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 122518 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Mums/Bubs/Guns - What Can Possibly Go Wrong? Reply #1 - Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 1:58pm The NRA will tell you - the answer is more guns.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156214 Gender:	Re: Mums/Bubs/Guns - What Can Possibly Go Wrong? Reply #2 - Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 2:13pm "Two-year-old boy accidentally shoots and kills his pregnant mother with gun left on nightstand ..." How do they know it was an accident?
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Reply #4 - Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 2:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 2:13pm:

"Two-year-old boy accidentally shoots and kills his pregnant mother with gun left on nightstand ..."

How do they know it was an accident? Undecided

Help… Is it normal for my toddler to play up and regress during my pregnancy?

"He has started throwing way more tantrums, stomping his feet at me, whining way more, hitting me when he gets angry."

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Reply #5 - Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 3:01pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 1:56pm:

RIP 🌹 Mum and 🌹 Bub

The surviving toddler and his dad have been given life sentences. 🥺😔😩

No. The toddler will grow up without any considerable memory of what happened. The father might hold more accountability for himself than we know reported. I cannot imagine a happy life for either of them in the next 5 years.

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Reply #6 - Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 3:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 2:13pm:

"Two-year-old boy accidentally shoots and kills his pregnant mother with gun left on nightstand ..."

How do they know it was an accident? Undecided

How many two-year-olds pick up toy guns, point them at their parents and pull the trigger saying "bang" or whatever? As far as I know, the child might well have been playing cowboy and accidentally fired a loaded pistol. To think that it was deliberate homicide would speak volumes of your overestimation of a toddler's intent on killing their own mother. It was unintentional, and therefore accidental.

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Boris Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4457 Gender:	Re: Mums/Bubs/Guns - What Can Possibly Go Wrong? Reply #7 - Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 3:06pm A freak accident nothing to see here
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Reply #8 - Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 3:21pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 3:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 2:13pm:

"Two-year-old boy accidentally shoots and kills his pregnant mother with gun left on nightstand ..."

How do they know it was an accident? Undecided

How many two-year-olds pick up toy guns, point them at their parents and pull the trigger saying "bang" or whatever? As far as I know, the child might well have been playing cowboy and accidentally fired a loaded pistol. To think that it was deliberate homicide would speak volumes of your overestimation of a toddler's intent on killing their own mother. It was unintentional, and therefore accidental.

Was his name Damien?

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 46311	Re: Mums/Bubs/Guns - What Can Possibly Go Wrong? Reply #9 - Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 3:42pm Boris wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 3:06pm: A freak accident nothing to see here Typical Right-wing response. Such a silly sausage. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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Reply #10 - Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 4:52pm

Some interesting responses in here.

I personally feel the laws in the US wrt guns need to be addressed.

Can such laws be addressed? Well I’ve been told by many posters here (who know about the gun culture in the US way more than I do) that it’s either NOT going to happen OR some pretty much useless attempt at change is all we should expect.

Essentially the problem in overhauling gun laws is just too complex, too tricky, involves too much treading on toes, (insert further reasons/excuses here) and will involve uprooting a longstanding cultural tradition which will also disrupt the economy (dear God this is starting to sound like the excuse the Sth gave about slavery but I digress).

Bottom line? Systemically nothing will change.

Which brings me to my question 👉 Where to from here?

In fact 👆 that question is behind why I started this topic.

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Reply #11 - Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 4:56pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 3:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 2:13pm:

"Two-year-old boy accidentally shoots and kills his pregnant mother with gun left on nightstand ..."

How do they know it was an accident? Undecided

How many two-year-olds pick up toy guns, point them at their parents and pull the trigger saying "bang" or whatever? As far as I know, the child might well have been playing cowboy and accidentally fired a loaded pistol. To think that it was deliberate homicide would speak volumes of your overestimation of a toddler's intent on killing their own mother. It was unintentional, and therefore accidental.

I didn't say anything about it being a deliberate homicide.

Read my post again.

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Reply #12 - Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 7:22pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 4:52pm:

Some interesting responses in here.

I personally feel the laws in the US wrt guns need to be addressed.

Can such laws be addressed? Well I’ve been told by many posters here (who know about the gun culture in the US way more than I do) that it’s either NOT going to happen OR some pretty much useless attempt at change is all we should expect.

Essentially the problem in overhauling gun laws is just too complex, too tricky, involves too much treading on toes, (insert further reasons/excuses here) and will involve uprooting a longstanding cultural tradition which will also disrupt the economy (dear God this is starting to sound like the excuse the Sth gave about slavery but I digress).

Bottom line? Systemically nothing will change.

Which brings me to my question 👉 Where to from here?

In fact 👆 that question is behind why I started this topic.

They bring in gun laws all the time the problem is when these laws are challenged in Supreme court they get thrown out for violating 2nd amendment.

Leaving loaded guns around kids isn't wise some states have laws on this.

Biometric gun safes are available so your fingerprint unlocks it which is a good solution.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 122518 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Mums/Bubs/Guns - What Can Possibly Go Wrong? Reply #13 - Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 8:02pm I read somewhere that if you have a gun in the house - 19 times out of 20 - it is more likely to be used to shoot you or another family member than it is to defend the house from an intruder.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 62350 Here Gender:	Re: Mums/Bubs/Guns - What Can Possibly Go Wrong? Reply #14 - Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 8:07pm The answer to a bad 2 yo with a gun is a good mother with a gun ?
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