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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #360 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 10:30am

issuevoter wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 4:02am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:45pm:

How it's going to be set up is still to be determined. Deliberately so. If they stipulated how it was set up and that got written into the constitution then every govt would be stuck with it forever, unless they had another referendum to remove it.. By leaving it out, govts are able to decide how to best frame it to suit the needs of society at that time. The only certainty is that there will be a voice. Whilst we might, for example, want a 12 member panel now, in 100 years time we might find one person is sufficient. Allowing governments some flexibility as to how its made up is a good thing

This government justification can be reduced to "Trust me."

Exactly! It’s essentially a call to bona fide clueless idiots to vote yes.

Think of it as being stupid, reckless and batshit crazy enough to accept this type of deal:

• You’ve been shown a picture of a house.
• You’ve asked for more information so you get driven past the house.
• You ask for more information like what’s inside it...elements regarding its foundations and construction etc.
• You’re essentially told NO you are required to purchase the house based on what information you have been given already.
• You keep asking for more information regardless.
• The final response is this : TRUST THE PROCESS for now and AFTER settlement you will know the rest of the details.

Now what farkkking gullible clueless idiot would sign off on such a deal? Yet Australians are being treated as such by a government that’s insulted their intelligence.

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #361 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 10:45am

John Smith wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 8:32am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:36pm:

Repeating yourself does not make your argument any stronger.

you're the idiot that keeps arguing about details. You have all the details necessary. Everything else is just a distraction

You responded to the wrong person.

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #362 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 11:18am

John Smith wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 8:31am:

issuevoter wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 4:02am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:45pm:

How it's going to be set up is still to be determined. Deliberately so. If they stipulated how it was set up and that got written into the constitution then every govt would be stuck with it forever, unless they had another referendum to remove it.. By leaving it out, govts are able to decide how to best frame it to suit the needs of society at that time. The only certainty is that there will be a voice. Whilst we might, for example, want a 12 member panel now, in 100 years time we might find one person is sufficient. Allowing governments some flexibility as to how its made up is a good thing

This government justification can be reduced to "Trust me."

rubbish. The important thing is the recognition of a voice. How it's made up is mere bureaucracy

your arguing that you'd refuse to buy a house until you know the colour of your bed spread ... ludicrous.

Abos have hundreds of voices, including cabinet level ministers in every state and federally.

What can the Voice say that these hundreds of Aboriginal voices can't?

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #363 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 3:09pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 10:16am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 8:32am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:36pm:

Repeating yourself does not make your argument any stronger.

you're the idiot that keeps arguing about details. You have all the details necessary. Everything else is just a distraction

FMD ... Five Foot Frodo Fruitloop is STILL hanging around like a bad smell only to abuse those around him who are reiterating the concerns of constitutional lawyers AND leading politicians. Idiot!

Link me to these 'constitutional lawyers....concerns.'

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #364 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 3:11pm

Frank wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 11:18am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 8:31am:

issuevoter wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 4:02am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:45pm:

How it's going to be set up is still to be determined. Deliberately so. If they stipulated how it was set up and that got written into the constitution then every govt would be stuck with it forever, unless they had another referendum to remove it.. By leaving it out, govts are able to decide how to best frame it to suit the needs of society at that time. The only certainty is that there will be a voice. Whilst we might, for example, want a 12 member panel now, in 100 years time we might find one person is sufficient. Allowing governments some flexibility as to how its made up is a good thing

This government justification can be reduced to "Trust me."

rubbish. The important thing is the recognition of a voice. How it's made up is mere bureaucracy

your arguing that you'd refuse to buy a house until you know the colour of your bed spread ... ludicrous.

Abos have hundreds of voices, including cabinet level ministers in every state and federally.

What can the Voice say that these hundreds of Aboriginal voices can't?

They are not elected there to represent aboriginals or aboriginal interests.

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #365 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 3:13pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 3:09pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 10:16am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 8:32am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:36pm:

Repeating yourself does not make your argument any stronger.

you're the idiot that keeps arguing about details. You have all the details necessary. Everything else is just a distraction

FMD ... Five Foot Frodo Fruitloop is STILL hanging around like a bad smell only to abuse those around him who are reiterating the concerns of constitutional lawyers AND leading politicians. Idiot!

Link me to these 'constitutional lawyers....concerns.'

I’ll go through my emails.

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #366 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 3:14pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 3:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 11:18am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 8:31am:

issuevoter wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 4:02am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:45pm:

How it's going to be set up is still to be determined. Deliberately so. If they stipulated how it was set up and that got written into the constitution then every govt would be stuck with it forever, unless they had another referendum to remove it.. By leaving it out, govts are able to decide how to best frame it to suit the needs of society at that time. The only certainty is that there will be a voice. Whilst we might, for example, want a 12 member panel now, in 100 years time we might find one person is sufficient. Allowing governments some flexibility as to how its made up is a good thing

This government justification can be reduced to "Trust me."

rubbish. The important thing is the recognition of a voice. How it's made up is mere bureaucracy

your arguing that you'd refuse to buy a house until you know the colour of your bed spread ... ludicrous.

Abos have hundreds of voices, including cabinet level ministers in every state and federally.

What can the Voice say that these hundreds of Aboriginal voices can't?

They are not elected there to represent aboriginals or aboriginal interests.

Yes they bloody well are!

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If I let myself be bought then I am no longer free.

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #367 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 3:15pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 10:30am:

issuevoter wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 4:02am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:45pm:

How it's going to be set up is still to be determined. Deliberately so. If they stipulated how it was set up and that got written into the constitution then every govt would be stuck with it forever, unless they had another referendum to remove it.. By leaving it out, govts are able to decide how to best frame it to suit the needs of society at that time. The only certainty is that there will be a voice. Whilst we might, for example, want a 12 member panel now, in 100 years time we might find one person is sufficient. Allowing governments some flexibility as to how its made up is a good thing

This government justification can be reduced to "Trust me."

Exactly! It’s essentially a call to bona fide clueless idiots to vote yes.

Think of it as being stupid, reckless and batshit crazy enough to accept this type of deal:

• You’ve been shown a picture of a house.
• You’ve asked for more information so you get driven past the house.
• You ask for more information like what’s inside it...elements regarding its foundations and construction etc.
• You’re essentially told NO you are required to purchase the house based on what information you have been given already.
• You keep asking for more information regardless.
• The final response is this : TRUST THE PROCESS for now and AFTER settlement you will know the rest of the details.

Now what farkkking gullible clueless idiot would sign off on such a deal? Yet Australians are being treated as such by a government that’s insulted their intelligence.

Aussie would YOU sign off and buy a house under the above conditions? Yes or No?

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39903 Gender:	Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting. Reply #368 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 3:17pm Stupid absurd irrelevant analogy.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting. Reply #369 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 3:28pm Aussie wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 3:17pm: Stupid absurd irrelevant analogy. No it isn’t. It’s a brutally honest parallel and you bloody well know it! In fact that’s exactly why you couldn’t answer either yes or no!
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Reply #370 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 3:52pm

Running scared from a clear parallel.... now sign up for this car - we'll let you know in six months what colour it will be, how big the engine and what kind, the number of cylinders, type of gearbox, the shape of the car, its seating capacity, and whether or not it will have brakes or will be running to the mechanics every five minutes with a problem ... not to mention the purposes to which you can put it and when, where and how you can operate it ......... and, of course, the cost of it..... exit doors are extra .....

Simple, really.................. just sign here.....

Moi politicsh are moi own conshern - but I know which way I'm voting.

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Reply #371 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 4:29pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 3:52pm:

Running scared from a clear parallel.... now sign up for this car - we'll let you know in six months what colour it will be, how big the engine and what kind, the number of cylinders, type of gearbox, the shape of the car, its seating capacity, and whether or not it will have brakes or will be running to the mechanics every five minutes with a problem ... not to mention the purposes to which you can put it and when, where and how you can operate it ......... and, of course, the cost of it..... exit doors are extra .....

Simple, really.................. just sign here.....

Moi politicsh are moi own conshern - but I know which way I'm voting.

More absolute tosh from the toss pots.

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #372 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 4:40pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 3:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 11:18am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 8:31am:

issuevoter wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 4:02am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:45pm:

How it's going to be set up is still to be determined. Deliberately so. If they stipulated how it was set up and that got written into the constitution then every govt would be stuck with it forever, unless they had another referendum to remove it.. By leaving it out, govts are able to decide how to best frame it to suit the needs of society at that time. The only certainty is that there will be a voice. Whilst we might, for example, want a 12 member panel now, in 100 years time we might find one person is sufficient. Allowing governments some flexibility as to how its made up is a good thing

This government justification can be reduced to "Trust me."

rubbish. The important thing is the recognition of a voice. How it's made up is mere bureaucracy

your arguing that you'd refuse to buy a house until you know the colour of your bed spread ... ludicrous.

Abos have hundreds of voices, including cabinet level ministers in every state and federally.

What can the Voice say that these hundreds of Aboriginal voices can't?

They are not elected there to represent aboriginals or aboriginal interests.

So what the **** is the point of all those Aboriginal councils, organisations, ministries? And if parliament, ministers etc have been so unrepresentative of and deaf to Aboriginal views, why the **** do Abos want to talk to them??

And The Voice will not be democratically elected either, Arrsie.

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Grappler Racist Filth Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90630 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting. Reply #373 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 4:45pm The voice is going down, man... get used to it..... best you grab a life jacket... "Nearer their voice to thee... nearer to theee..."
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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #374 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 4:50pm

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So what the **** is the point of all those Aboriginal councils, organisations, ministries? And if parliament, ministers etc have been so unrepresentative of and deaf to Aboriginal views, why the **** do Abos want to talk to them??

And The Voice will not be democratically elected either, Arrsie.

Name them so I can answer relevantly.

As for the Voice not being democratically elected...do you read what Dreyfus said?

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The Voice will be an independent representative body. The intention is that its members will be selected by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples based on the wishes of local communities.

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