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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #345 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 7:25pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 4:35pm:

Except no Leader, (beloved or otherwise by anybody) said all of that.

You understand what is this difference between quotation marks and no quotations marks.... italicised and not italicised?

Bueno!!

I am your future Great Leader, and god knows you bloody lot need me.... how come you allowed mothra to post here yesterday while I was tied up in hospital and the head of cardio surgery was being home invaded and stabbed and on his way for surgery? You need me to keep the lesser beings in line - in their rightful place...... crafty bastards - sneak in behind my back....

Show a little respect... I don't ask much .....

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #346 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:03pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 7:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 4:35pm:

Except no Leader, (beloved or otherwise by anybody) said all of that.

You understand what is this difference between quotation marks and no quotations marks.... italicised and not italicised?

Bueno!!

I am your future Great Leader, and god knows you bloody lot need me.... how come you allowed mothra to post here yesterday while I was tied up in hospital and the head of cardio surgery was being home invaded and stabbed and on his way for surgery? You need me to keep the lesser beings in line - in their rightful place...... crafty bastards - sneak in behind my back....

Show a little respect... I don't ask much .....

Of course I do. But...others are easily duped as you can see!

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #347 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:08pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 4:24pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 2:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 2:20pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 1:26pm:

You have to admit, Brian, that the Voice to Parliament campaigners have not been forthcoming with the details about how the VtP will work.

what part don't you understand?

"the details about how the VtP will work".

what details are you after? Govt. will set up an advisory board to advise on matters affecting aboriginal and Torres straight islander . What form the advisory board takes will be up to the govt of the day.

So far, all I know about the Voice to Parliament is what is written in website links and what has been discussed in debate programs and what I have heard in Parliamentary debates.

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The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, also known as the Indigenous Voice to Parliament or the Voice, is a proposed Australian federal advisory body comprising Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people to represent the views of Indigenous communities.

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And even if I look up each of the 123 links provided in the "Voice to Parliament" wikipedia page, I doubt I am going to find an in depth analysis of how the VtP will be enacted.

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #348 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:45pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 4:24pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 2:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 2:20pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 1:26pm:

You have to admit, Brian, that the Voice to Parliament campaigners have not been forthcoming with the details about how the VtP will work.

what part don't you understand?

"the details about how the VtP will work".

what details are you after? Govt. will set up an advisory board to advise on matters affecting aboriginal and Torres straight islander . What form the advisory board takes will be up to the govt of the day.

So far, all I know about the Voice to Parliament is what is written in website links and what has been discussed in debate programs and what I have heard in Parliamentary debates.

Quote:

The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, also known as the Indigenous Voice to Parliament or the Voice, is a proposed Australian federal advisory body comprising Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people to represent the views of Indigenous communities.

(source)

And even if I look up each of the 123 links provided in the "Voice to Parliament" wikipedia page, I doubt I am going to find an in depth analysis of how the VtP will be enacted.

How it's going to be set up is still to be determined. Deliberately so. If they stipulated how it was set up and that got written into the constitution then every govt would be stuck with it forever, unless they had another referendum to remove it.. By leaving it out, govts are able to decide how to best frame it to suit the needs of society at that time. The only certainty is that there will be a voice. Whilst we might, for example, want a 12 member panel now, in 100 years time we might find one person is sufficient. Allowing governments some flexibility as to how its made up is a good thing

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #349 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:21pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:45pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 4:24pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 2:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 2:20pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 1:26pm:

You have to admit, Brian, that the Voice to Parliament campaigners have not been forthcoming with the details about how the VtP will work.

what part don't you understand?

"the details about how the VtP will work".

what details are you after? Govt. will set up an advisory board to advise on matters affecting aboriginal and Torres straight islander . What form the advisory board takes will be up to the govt of the day.

So far, all I know about the Voice to Parliament is what is written in website links and what has been discussed in debate programs and what I have heard in Parliamentary debates.

Quote:

The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, also known as the Indigenous Voice to Parliament or the Voice, is a proposed Australian federal advisory body comprising Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people to represent the views of Indigenous communities.

(source)

And even if I look up each of the 123 links provided in the "Voice to Parliament" wikipedia page, I doubt I am going to find an in depth analysis of how the VtP will be enacted.

How it's going to be set up is still to be determined. Deliberately so. If they stipulated how it was set up and that got written into the constitution then every govt would be stuck with it forever, unless they had another referendum to remove it.. By leaving it out, govts are able to decide how to best frame it to suit the needs of society at that time. The only certainty is that there will be a voice. Whilst we might, for example, want a 12 member panel now, in 100 years time we might find one person is sufficient. Allowing governments some flexibility as to how its made up is a good thing

Them: "We want to change the constitution in a major way?"

Me: "Okay, can you provide details as to how and the benefits?"

Them: "Right-wing bigot, racist, fascists, vote yes or you are a nazi"

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25844 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting. Reply #350 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:36pm Repeating yourself does not make your argument any stronger.
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Grappler Racist Filth Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90630 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting. Reply #351 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 10:18pm Repeating yourself does not make your argument any stronger.
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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25844 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting. Reply #352 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 11:48pm Get phucked, Graps.
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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #353 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 4:02am

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:45pm:

How it's going to be set up is still to be determined. Deliberately so. If they stipulated how it was set up and that got written into the constitution then every govt would be stuck with it forever, unless they had another referendum to remove it.. By leaving it out, govts are able to decide how to best frame it to suit the needs of society at that time. The only certainty is that there will be a voice. Whilst we might, for example, want a 12 member panel now, in 100 years time we might find one person is sufficient. Allowing governments some flexibility as to how its made up is a good thing

This government justification can be reduced to "Trust me."

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #354 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 8:29am

Boris wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:21pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:45pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 4:24pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 2:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 2:20pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 1:26pm:

You have to admit, Brian, that the Voice to Parliament campaigners have not been forthcoming with the details about how the VtP will work.

what part don't you understand?

"the details about how the VtP will work".

what details are you after? Govt. will set up an advisory board to advise on matters affecting aboriginal and Torres straight islander . What form the advisory board takes will be up to the govt of the day.

So far, all I know about the Voice to Parliament is what is written in website links and what has been discussed in debate programs and what I have heard in Parliamentary debates.

Quote:

The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, also known as the Indigenous Voice to Parliament or the Voice, is a proposed Australian federal advisory body comprising Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people to represent the views of Indigenous communities.

(source)

And even if I look up each of the 123 links provided in the "Voice to Parliament" wikipedia page, I doubt I am going to find an in depth analysis of how the VtP will be enacted.

How it's going to be set up is still to be determined. Deliberately so. If they stipulated how it was set up and that got written into the constitution then every govt would be stuck with it forever, unless they had another referendum to remove it.. By leaving it out, govts are able to decide how to best frame it to suit the needs of society at that time. The only certainty is that there will be a voice. Whilst we might, for example, want a 12 member panel now, in 100 years time we might find one person is sufficient. Allowing governments some flexibility as to how its made up is a good thing

Them: "We want to change the constitution in a major way?"

Me: "Okay, can you provide details as to how and the benefits?"

Them: "Right-wing bigot, racist, fascists, vote yes or you are a nazi"

you should pull your head out of your arse so that you can hear better

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #355 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 8:31am

issuevoter wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 4:02am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:45pm:

How it's going to be set up is still to be determined. Deliberately so. If they stipulated how it was set up and that got written into the constitution then every govt would be stuck with it forever, unless they had another referendum to remove it.. By leaving it out, govts are able to decide how to best frame it to suit the needs of society at that time. The only certainty is that there will be a voice. Whilst we might, for example, want a 12 member panel now, in 100 years time we might find one person is sufficient. Allowing governments some flexibility as to how its made up is a good thing

This government justification can be reduced to "Trust me."

rubbish. The important thing is the recognition of a voice. How it's made up is mere bureaucracy

your arguing that you'd refuse to buy a house until you know the colour of your bed spread ... ludicrous.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting. Reply #356 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 8:32am UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:36pm: Repeating yourself does not make your argument any stronger. you're the idiot that keeps arguing about details. You have all the details necessary. Everything else is just a distraction
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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #357 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 9:16am

John Smith wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 8:31am:

issuevoter wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 4:02am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:45pm:

How it's going to be set up is still to be determined. Deliberately so. If they stipulated how it was set up and that got written into the constitution then every govt would be stuck with it forever, unless they had another referendum to remove it.. By leaving it out, govts are able to decide how to best frame it to suit the needs of society at that time. The only certainty is that there will be a voice. Whilst we might, for example, want a 12 member panel now, in 100 years time we might find one person is sufficient. Allowing governments some flexibility as to how its made up is a good thing

This government justification can be reduced to "Trust me."

rubbish. The important thing is the recognition of a voice. How it's made up is mere bureaucracy

your arguing that you'd refuse to buy a house until you know the colour of your bed spread ... ludicrous.

No, I'm not arguing any such thing, Mr Rubbish man. You want to establish a Constitutional precedent that proponents have publicly announced and of which they intend to take advantage. Not my words - there's.

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #358 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 9:23am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 11:48pm:

Get phucked, Graps.

I was supporting your word on smith....well... if you don't want my help....

Anyway - no point arguing this - the voice is going down.... I'm waiting for the riots that will signal the final solution of all these Aborigine moans, and with Labor states they'll order the non-political police to not intervene and allow the Neue Kristallnacht to get into full swing and then stamp down on the self-defence corps.

Look at what all these Labor states are up to with the Abos - and the trouble they are planting for the future. You seriously have to wonder if they are sane in any way at all.

............................... the search for a missing Aboriginal Water Heritage Rights inspector has been expanded to include the entire coast of the Great Australian Bight in the hope that some trace of the inspector or his vehicle may be found at the bottom of the Southern Ocean....... meanwhile inspectors are still in lockdown and are forbidden to go to any property for any inspection............... farming groups in the WA wheat belt are assisting with the search but say they have no information to offer as to the movements of the inspector, who may have been suicidal, they say .........................................

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #359 - Jun 28^th, 2023 at 10:16am

John Smith wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 8:32am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:36pm:

Repeating yourself does not make your argument any stronger.

you're the idiot that keeps arguing about details. You have all the details necessary. Everything else is just a distraction

FMD ... Five Foot Frodo Fruitloop is STILL hanging around like a bad smell only to abuse those around him who are reiterating the concerns of constitutional lawyers AND leading politicians. Idiot!

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