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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting. Reply #330 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 2:20pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 1:26pm: You have to admit, Brian, that the Voice to Parliament campaigners have not been forthcoming with the details about how the VtP will work. what part don't you understand?
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Reply #331 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 2:22pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 2:20pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 1:26pm:

You have to admit, Brian, that the Voice to Parliament campaigners have not been forthcoming with the details about how the VtP will work.

what part don't you understand?

"the details about how the VtP will work".

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Grappler Racist Filth Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90633 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting. Reply #332 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 4:01pm John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 12:30pm: it amazes me how so many can be so clueless about how our laws work. This was primary school stuff FFS. *Please Explain??*
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Reply #333 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 4:19pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 12:16pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 11:54am:

"It will be a matter for the Parliament to determine whether the Executive Government is under any obligation in relation to representations made by the Voice. There will be no requirement for the Parliament or the Executive Government to follow the Voice’s representations. The constitutional amendment confers no power on the Voice to prevent, delay or veto decisions of the Parliament or the Executive Government. The Parliament and the Executive Government will retain final decision-making power over all laws and policies."

And I can assure you, my fellow Australians that this humble truth will not once deter ANY government of my party and like-minded parties from totally accepting everything the Voice offers!! Furthermore, my government pledges to allow the courts to extend and enhance the powers of the Voice at their whim since we will place no hindrance in the way of courts doing so!!! Such a democratic measure of limiting the rights of a racist and divisive Voice must NEVER be placed in the way of the advancement of the harmless and suffering yet noble and humble Australian Aborigine!!

I offer these absolute assurances in the interests of peace between the two factions voting for and against this Voice.

Signed
Herr Albo.

Only a naive idiot would start to believe a politician (of all people) who talks like this.

Albo must be pretty desperate if he feels the need to pretend he’s the VOICE for ANY (that includes future) Labor Party govt. 😐

What are you referring to?

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Reply #334 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 4:24pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 2:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 2:20pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 1:26pm:

You have to admit, Brian, that the Voice to Parliament campaigners have not been forthcoming with the details about how the VtP will work.

what part don't you understand?

"the details about how the VtP will work".

what details are you after? Govt. will set up an advisory board to advise on matters affecting aboriginal and Torres straight islander . What form the advisory board takes will be up to the govt of the day.

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Reply #335 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 4:31pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 4:24pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 2:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 2:20pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 1:26pm:

You have to admit, Brian, that the Voice to Parliament campaigners have not been forthcoming with the details about how the VtP will work.

what part don't you understand?

"the details about how the VtP will work".

what details are you after? Govt. will set up an advisory board to advise on matters affecting aboriginal and Torres straight islander . What form the advisory board takes will be up to the govt of the day.

Well - no it won't - because it will never get in. Waste of time, money and energy better put to good use attacking government on the real issues... governments here are your true enemies... Enemies Of The People including the indigenous People. Look at the insolence of office exercised by the public service......

Bring on the revolution....

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Reply #336 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 4:32pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 4:19pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 12:16pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 11:54am:

"It will be a matter for the Parliament to determine whether the Executive Government is under any obligation in relation to representations made by the Voice. There will be no requirement for the Parliament or the Executive Government to follow the Voice’s representations. The constitutional amendment confers no power on the Voice to prevent, delay or veto decisions of the Parliament or the Executive Government. The Parliament and the Executive Government will retain final decision-making power over all laws and policies."

And I can assure you, my fellow Australians that this humble truth will not once deter ANY government of my party and like-minded parties from totally accepting everything the Voice offers!! Furthermore, my government pledges to allow the courts to extend and enhance the powers of the Voice at their whim since we will place no hindrance in the way of courts doing so!!! Such a democratic measure of limiting the rights of a racist and divisive Voice must NEVER be placed in the way of the advancement of the harmless and suffering yet noble and humble Australian Aborigine!!

I offer these absolute assurances in the interests of peace between the two factions voting for and against this Voice.

Signed
Herr Albo.

Only a naive idiot would start to believe a politician (of all people) who talks like this.

Albo must be pretty desperate if he feels the need to pretend he’s the VOICE for ANY (that includes future) Labor Party govt. 😐

What are you referring to?

Your future Great Leader beloved by the people he rules so benevolently...

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39905 Gender:	Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting. Reply #337 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 4:35pm Except no Leader, (beloved or otherwise by anybody) said all of that.
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Reply #338 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 4:54pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 4:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 12:30pm:

it amazes me how so many can be so clueless about how our laws work.

This was primary school stuff FFS.

Please Explain??

Explain what? How the courts work was explained in primary school. High court when ruling on constitutional law, always takes into account the intention of the law when making a decision

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53324 At my desk.	Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting. Reply #339 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 5:33pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 1:08pm: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/4148/LB9BRl.jpg
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Reply #340 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 5:37pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:35am:

Quote:

Link for what?

That "There are many non Aboriginals that don't want to enroll or vote in elections."

https://www.ozpolitic.com/articles/wrong-referendum.html

One of the most depressing events of late was an article from The Guardian in which the Greens and an aboriginal representative called for relaxing of voter registration rules for the referendum. The article was titled “Fears Indigenous Australians Could be Disenfranchised in Voice Referendum Unless Voting Rules Changed”. Joe Martin-Jard, the chief executive of the Northern Land Council, and a Kamilaroi man said:

“In a perverse way, [the current rules are] stopping our mob and suppressing their voice to get a voice its a very unusual situation, “

“If someone turns up at a polling booth and there’s a person in the community that can vouch for that person they should be able to vote, that is what we are advocating for. “

The vote he is talking about is a vote in the referendum, not the general election. Think about the message that this man is sending to his own community - that to avoid being disenfranchised (losing voting rights), instead of enrolling to vote and actually voting, they should attempt to cast a vote in the referendum without bothering to enrol, so that some kind of committee in Canberra that they have absolutely no control over can speak to the government on their behalf. This is how the government, and the various aboriginal representatives they have already appointed, have convinced regional communities they are going to magically stop children being raped, wives being beating and killed, deaths in custody, discrimination etc.

It is naive and intellectually lazy.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39905 Gender:	Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting. Reply #341 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 5:39pm Like when did you ever give a fuq for what one person said, Effendi?
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Reply #342 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 5:42pm

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 8:01am:

freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2023 at 6:07pm:

Have you noticed you are the only one here who says they will vote yes?

Because, Fleadriver, you have sought to create a forum of right wing bigots who rely on Sky "news" for their information; you've chased off, banned or repeatedly trolled all of your left wing members so only about 6 remain, most of whom refuse to post in your repugnant "Whinge About Aboriginals" subforum; and that all but a scarce few of your forum members (which you have so painstakingly cultivated, i imagine so you feel validated in your own bigotry) have an IQ above room temperature. In winter.

I will be voting yes. Constitutional change should have happened when Terra Nullius was overturned.

And we need a treaty. Yesterday please.

Don't make the mistake of thinking your sad, sorry little corner of the internet is representative of anything other than the scared and disgruntled old boomers who some here to congratulate each other on how well they vent their spleens.

Well done, Fleadriver. Do you feel important?

Wow. Two people who will be voting yes, and are brave enough to admit it. Aussie the brave, and mothra.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53324 At my desk.	Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting. Reply #343 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 5:44pm Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 5:39pm: Like when did you ever give a fuq for what one person said, Effendi? Are you attempting to say something Aussie? Be brave and say it.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39905 Gender:	Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting. Reply #344 - Jun 27^th, 2023 at 5:56pm freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 5:44pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 5:39pm: Like when did you ever give a fuq for what one person said, Effendi? Are you attempting to say something Aussie? Be brave and say it. Okay. Like when did you ever give a fuq for what one person said, Effendi?
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