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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #30 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 9:37pm

Setanta wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 9:30pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 9:06pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 8:00pm:

If you do not have the detail of what will happen with Constitutional change or even if you are unsure, it's your duty to vote no. The constitution is far too important to our democracy to just change on feel goods or emotional blackmail.

Unless everything is laid on the table, no we'll decide that after it passes, my vote will be no.

Exactly what has not been laid on the table.

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Piss off you Prancing Queen.

Would it be too much to ask both of you to comment on my last post in this topic? For what it’s worth I actually value your (plural) input. And yes I do look out for your (plural) posts. Roll Eyes

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #31 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 9:38pm

👇 This is the post I’m referring to.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 8:43pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 8:00pm:

If you do not have the detail of what will happen with Constitutional change or even if you are unsure, it's your duty to vote no. The constitution is far too important to our democracy to just change on feel goods or emotional blackmail.

Unless everything is laid on the table, no we'll decide that after it passes, my vote will be no.

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That pretty much sums up why so many will be doing the right thing by voting NO!

Also there is the RISK that a future High Court could place an interpretation on the Voice which goes even beyond the current expectations of the Government because it’s so vague/lacks detail.

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #32 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 9:39pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 9:37pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 9:30pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 9:06pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 8:00pm:

If you do not have the detail of what will happen with Constitutional change or even if you are unsure, it's your duty to vote no. The constitution is far too important to our democracy to just change on feel goods or emotional blackmail.

Unless everything is laid on the table, no we'll decide that after it passes, my vote will be no.

Exactly what has not been laid on the table.

(And keep your grubby GMod buttons out of my MRB. If a Member starts a Thread there, leave it there.)

Piss off you Prancing Queen.

Would it be too much to ask both of you to comment on my last post in this topic? For what it’s worth I actually value your (plural) input. And yes I do look out for your (plural) posts. Roll Eyes

Perhaps you could be more specific, the post I am replying to is your last post in this thread. Am I wrong?

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #33 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 9:54pm

Setanta wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 9:39pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 9:37pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 9:30pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 9:06pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 8:00pm:

If you do not have the detail of what will happen with Constitutional change or even if you are unsure, it's your duty to vote no. The constitution is far too important to our democracy to just change on feel goods or emotional blackmail.

Unless everything is laid on the table, no we'll decide that after it passes, my vote will be no.

Exactly what has not been laid on the table.

(And keep your grubby GMod buttons out of my MRB. If a Member starts a Thread there, leave it there.)

Piss off you Prancing Queen.

Would it be too much to ask both of you to comment on my last post in this topic? For what it’s worth I actually value your (plural) input. And yes I do look out for your (plural) posts. Roll Eyes

Perhaps you could be more specific, the post I am replying to is your last post in this thread. Am I wrong?

Sure. Here 👇

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Also there is the RISK that a future High Court could place an interpretation on the Voice which goes even beyond the current expectations of the Government because it’s so vague/lacks detail.

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Reply #34 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 9:57pm

I posted this earlier Setanta and Aussie 👇

https://ipa.org.au/ipa-today/the-new-zealand-maori-voice-to-parliament-and-what-
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Essentially...the Voice has the potential to radically reshape Australia’s representative constitutional democracy. The Voice could operate like a third chamber of parliament and wield a veto power over the day-to-day functions of government and parliament.

This is not only incompatible with Australia’s legal and political heritage, but inconsistent with Australia’s preference for a race-blind constitution. This was a point that was most clearly expressed at the 1967 referendum, where 91 per cent of Australian electors chose to remove from the Australian Constitution two divisive references to race.

The parliament, being open for participation to all Australians, remains the best institution to represent all Australians.

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #35 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 10:09pm

Two hundred and thirty five years of steadily clawing the equal rights of the average person out of the mud, only to see them dashed back in and smothered by the deluge of half-baked imbeciles who imagine they know all.... products of the MacDonalds franchise style of modern education where all come out the same....... with the exact same academic lobectomy removing both their intellectual capacity and their empathy and creating of them zombies that we see in movies, which themselves are the allegory for modern life .....

I figure that will lose most of you............ jeez - civil war declared openly and The Assassination of the Jesse James Gun Owners by the Coward John Howard has left the people defenceless... any dick with a spear or nulla-nulla could take over a household in a flash....

Such is The Madness into which we've been shoved by piss weak governments of all kinds..... and at all levels....

Of course this rot started much earlier....... around forty years ago........................... but it is now bearing the most hideous fruit.....

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #36 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 10:15pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 6:21pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 6:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 5:56pm:

To Quote the great Jack Thompson, 'if the No vote wins, evil will have prevailed'.

That was on 'ABC interviews Jack Thompson' a couple of weeks ago

Well - you know - senility takes its course.... did he by any chance say how 'evil' would prevail?

By letting the racists and bigot win, that's how!

You're gonna need a bigger roast ...... that's just a statement of intent... what did Jack say this Evil would be and how would it have prevailed? The Abos will be stuck with one man/one vote like everyone else?

SOBS..... Jack, Jack - you KNOW I've never forgiven you for tossing me out of that cast caravan because you figured you were a big shot... I'm a nice guy, but it didn't have Jack Thompson on the door... it said Cast .... and I'd been there since all the shoots in Nu Zulland... a lot more than you.... jeez - that black Daimler you drove? That was mine....

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #37 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 11:47pm

Quote:

Advocates question federal government's $194 million to address domestic violence in First Nations communities

Fri 12 May 2023

In the past two years, Chay Brown has lost three of her friends to domestic violence.

"Three friends of mine have been killed by their male partners and we have to be horribly honest, that's not an unusual experience," she said.

Ms Rubuntja was actively speaking out about violence in central Australia, which saw her and the Tangentyere Women's Family Safety Group in 2018 travel to Canberra, where they held an emotional sit-down inside parliament house, urging federal politicians to take action on the extreme levels of violence towards Aboriginal women.

However, in 2021, Ms Rubuntja's fate was met, and the silent abuse she was suffering became known to her family and friends when she was murdered by her partner, Malcolm Abbott.

Last year, Four Corners revealed that the Northern Territory was Australia's homicide capital

"In 2021, the Northern Territory had around seven times the rate of domestic and family violence-related homicides, seven times the national rate that is," Dr Brown said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-12/federal-budget-funding-for-first-nations-...

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Re: So many reasons to VOTE NO!
Reply #38 - Jun 24^th, 2023 at 12:00am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 8:40am:

...This is not only incompatible with Australia’s legal and political heritage, but inconsistent with Australia’s preference for a race-blind constitution. This was a point that was most clearly expressed at the 1967 referendum, where 91 per cent of Australian electors chose to remove from the Australian Constitution two divisive references to race.

Yes.

51. The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to
make laws for the peace, order, and good government of the
Commonwealth with respect to:

…(xxvi) the people of any race, other than the aboriginal race
in any State, for whom it is deemed necessary to make special laws.

127. In reckoning the numbers of people of the Commonwealth, or
of a State or other part of the Commonwealth, aboriginal natives
shall not be counted.

So now—bizarrely, and divisively—some people want
to effectively add back into our Constitution similarly
racist terminology.

—Which is another reason I'll be voting NO.

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Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting.
Reply #39 - Jun 24^th, 2023 at 12:00am

John Smith wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 6:21pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 6:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 5:56pm:

To Quote the great Jack Thompson, 'if the No vote wins, evil will have prevailed'.

That was on 'ABC interviews Jack Thompson' a couple of weeks ago

Well - you know - senility takes its course.... did he by any chance say how 'evil' would prevail?

By letting the racists and bigot win, that's how!

Are not the racists part of the "yes" campaign? You know... the proposal to make race-based changes to the constitution. It comes off as obviously racist. Seems like the new apartheid for Australia.

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Re: So many reasons to VOTE NO!
Reply #40 - Jun 24^th, 2023 at 12:11am

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 24^th, 2023 at 12:00am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 8:40am:

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This is not only incompatible with Australia’s legal and political heritage, but inconsistent with Australia’s preference for a race-blind constitution. This was a point that was most clearly expressed at the 1967 referendum, where 91 per cent of Australian electors chose to remove from the Australian Constitution two divisive references to race.

Yes.

51. The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to
make laws for the peace, order, and good government of the
Commonwealth with respect to:

…(xxvi) the people of any race, other than the aboriginal race
in any State, for whom it is deemed necessary to make special laws.

127. In reckoning the numbers of people of the Commonwealth, or
of a State or other part of the Commonwealth, aboriginal natives
shall not be counted.

So now—bizarrely, and divisively—some people want
to effectively add back into our Constitution similarly
racist terminology.

—Which is another reason I'll be voting NO.

Which is why you would have to be ignorant, insane, dumb and stupid to even consider voting yes.

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Reply #42 - Jun 24^th, 2023 at 6:03am

John Smith wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 5:56pm:

To Quote the great Jack Thompson, 'if the No vote wins, evil will have prevailed'.

That was on 'ABC interviews Jack Thompson' a couple of weeks ago

Absolute over emotive bs .... typical of an actor.

He should stick to his craft.

The whole "Yes" campaign is based on emotional blackmail with nonsense statements like that, throwing the racist card at everyone who disagrees with it.

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Reply #43 - Jun 24^th, 2023 at 8:49am

John Smith wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 6:22pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 6:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 5:56pm:

To Quote the great Jack Thompson, 'if the No vote wins, evil will have prevailed'.

That was on 'ABC interviews Jack Thompson' a couple of weeks ago

Over the top emotional blackmail by an actor as the fundamental and sole argument for constitutional change.

Tellembugger'em.

sole argument? Cheesy

Seriously, get that refund.

Do YOU have a good argument to support Yes, thickerooni?
Tell us.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39903 Gender:	Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting. Reply #44 - Jun 24^th, 2023 at 9:03am freediver wrote on Jun 24^th, 2023 at 5:37am: Has anyone at all stated anywhere on this forum that they will be voting yes? I wonder if Buzz intended his thread title to be ironic. I have and I will be. I am not afraid of the boogeyman. You suppressors can have it all to yourself.
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