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Reply #15 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 5:03pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 5:02pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 4:27pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 12:51am:

What? Who are you talking to? Huh

Buzz. He sort of hinted he would be voting yes. But not a single member here, from what I have seen, has actually said they would be voting yes. They seem afraid to. It's like they are all closet no voters who are flagellating themselves for being racist.

Many of us are not AFRAID to vote yes.

We’re not STUPID to vote yes.

You don't have to be mad to vote YES, but it sure helps......

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Reply #16 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 5:10pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 21^st, 2023 at 9:29pm:

I will not be falling into line with multi-millionaire Warren 'Uncle Tom' Mundine
, in his quest to have no other indigenous Australians share his power base and influence on Australian governments.

Nor will I be taking a lead from Lidia 'mad as a cut snake' Thorpe
on, well, ANYTHING

If I follow ANYONES lead, it will be the authors of the
Uluru Statement from the Heart

https://ulurustatemdev.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/UluruStatementfro...

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We know how woke poofters are going to vote no surprises there.

With the Uluru statement how do the natives know how long they have been here?

Did they need white mans Radio Carbon dating to measure Carbon 14 in the bones of Mungo man and Kow Swamp to give them an idea on this?

I will be voting NO Way GF FO with this racist bullshit.

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Jacinta Nampijinpa
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Today we’re a day closer to:

- paying millions in reparations
- rewriting our history
- being Divided by race.

Vote No Australia!

https://twitter.com/JNampijinpa/status/1670629198527090688?cxt=HHwWgMDSmfOZoq8uA...

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Reply #17 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 5:21pm

What Price this then, eh?

"Just like me, just like every Australian, you want to close the gap between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Aussies.

That’s why it makes me furious when Albo and the ‘yes’ campaigners say the Voice will solve Indigenous disadvantage.

The truth is that the people who now want the divisive Voice are the same ones who have been in charge of helping Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people for decades.

And it doesn’t stop there: leading Voice architect Thomas Mayo, who literally wrote the book on the Voice, has been found out saying the Voice is about power and smashing institutions and reparations and compensation.

He says he wants to use the Constitution to “force them to listen” and to “punish politicians who ignore our advice”.

That’s the reality.

Meanwhile, Indigenous communities are suffering.

FACT: Taxpayers spend at least $100 million a day on direct support for Indigenous Australians every year.

That’s $39.5 billion of direct government expenditure every single year1.

That’s more than we spend on the NDIS ($35.5 billion), Medicare ($31.3 billion) or Defence ($38 billion).

It’s about the same as the Federal Government’s entire spend on schools and universities ($39.7 billion).

Not only does this eye watering amount include welfare payments direct to individuals, it includes the money splurged on government programs, grants, non-profits, and lobby groups – an entire professional activist industry that is meant to help Indigenous Australians.

And yet for decades despite almost no noticeable improvement in the lives of Indigenous Australians, here comes people like Thomas Mayo demanding more power and more money.

As far as the divisive Voice is concerned, it’s time for you and I to tell Albo enough is enough"

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting. Reply #18 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 5:56pm To Quote the great Jack Thompson, 'if the No vote wins, evil will have prevailed'. That was on 'ABC interviews Jack Thompson' a couple of weeks ago
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Reply #19 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 6:07pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 5:56pm:

To Quote the great Jack Thompson, 'if the No vote wins, evil will have prevailed'.

That was on 'ABC interviews Jack Thompson' a couple of weeks ago

Over the top emotional blackmail by an actor as the fundamental and sole argument for constitutional change.

Tellembugger'em.

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Grappler Racist Filth Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90629 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: I'm Pretty Sure I Know How I'LL Be Voting. Reply #20 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 6:19pm John Smith wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 5:56pm: To Quote the great Jack Thompson, 'if the No vote wins, evil will have prevailed'. That was on 'ABC interviews Jack Thompson' a couple of weeks ago Well - you know - senility takes its course.... did he by any chance say how 'evil' would prevail?
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Reply #21 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 6:21pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 6:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 5:56pm:

To Quote the great Jack Thompson, 'if the No vote wins, evil will have prevailed'.

That was on 'ABC interviews Jack Thompson' a couple of weeks ago

Well - you know - senility takes its course.... did he by any chance say how 'evil' would prevail?

By letting the racists and bigot win, that's how!

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Reply #22 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 6:22pm

Frank wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 6:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 5:56pm:

To Quote the great Jack Thompson, 'if the No vote wins, evil will have prevailed'.

That was on 'ABC interviews Jack Thompson' a couple of weeks ago

Over the top emotional blackmail by an actor as the fundamental and sole argument for constitutional change.

Tellembugger'em.

sole argument? Cheesy

Seriously, get that refund.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #23 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 6:32pm

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Misleading memes, social media commentary and statements made by some federal politicians have all claimed that the Voice to Parliament, should it be established, could overturn government decisions via the High Court

But as FactLab's CrossCheck unit recently found, such claims have no legal basis and misrepresent a nuanced legal argument about the powers of the Voice in making representations to executive government.

Among CrossCheck's findings were that despite online narratives to the contrary, the Voice — as it is currently proposed — could not make binding demands of the government, nor would it have the power to veto legislation.

Those were the unanimous findings of the Constitutional Expert Group appointed by the government to provide advice on questions of constitutional law.

A member of that group, Anne Twomey, Professor of Constitutional Law at the University of New South Wales (UNSW), said: "The power and function of the Voice is to make representations. It cannot dictate, demand or veto."

Independent of the experts appointed by the government, the Australian Law Council and other constitutional law academics have reached the same conclusion.

As such, claims on social media that the Voice could use the High Court to force policy outcomes, alter the content of laws or change a government decision — to allow, for example, land grabs or forced reparations payments — have no legal basis.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-23/fact-check-nsw-birth-rate-not-vaccine-rel...

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Reply #25 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 8:00pm

If you do not have the detail of what will happen with Constitutional change or even if you are unsure, it's your duty to vote no. The constitution is far too important to our democracy to just change on feel goods or emotional blackmail.

Unless everything is laid on the table, no we'll decide that after it passes, my vote will be no.

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Reply #26 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 8:09pm

Setanta wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 8:00pm:

If you do not have the detail of what will happen with Constitutional change or even if you are unsure, it's your duty to vote no. The constitution is far too important to our democracy to just change on feel goods or emotional blackmail.

Unless everything is laid on the table, no we'll decide that after it passes, my vote will be no.

That's far too much logic and common sense for some people here Set.

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Reply #27 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 8:43pm

Setanta wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 8:00pm:

If you do not have the detail of what will happen with Constitutional change or even if you are unsure, it's your duty to vote no. The constitution is far too important to our democracy to just change on feel goods or emotional blackmail.

Unless everything is laid on the table, no we'll decide that after it passes, my vote will be no.

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That pretty much sums up why so many will be doing the right thing by voting NO!

Also there is the RISK that a future High Court could place an interpretation on the Voice which goes even beyond the current expectations of the Government because it’s so vague/lacks detail.

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Reply #28 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 9:06pm

Setanta wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 8:00pm:

If you do not have the detail of what will happen with Constitutional change or even if you are unsure, it's your duty to vote no. The constitution is far too important to our democracy to just change on feel goods or emotional blackmail.

Unless everything is laid on the table, no we'll decide that after it passes, my vote will be no.

Exactly what has not been laid on the table.

(And keep your grubby GMod buttons out of my MRB. If a Member starts a Thread there, leave it there.)

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Reply #29 - Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 9:30pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 9:06pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 8:00pm:

If you do not have the detail of what will happen with Constitutional change or even if you are unsure, it's your duty to vote no. The constitution is far too important to our democracy to just change on feel goods or emotional blackmail.

Unless everything is laid on the table, no we'll decide that after it passes, my vote will be no.

Exactly what has not been laid on the table.

(And keep your grubby GMod buttons out of my MRB. If a Member starts a Thread there, leave it there.)

Piss off you Prancing Queen.

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