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Reply #165 - Jun 21st, 2023 at 10:52pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 21st, 2023 at 10:41pm:
Whoah. Co-workers taking their own lives is something I have experienced. It is not something that you want to hear about.


I agree. I probably shouldn’t have said anything online.

I was seriously NOT expecting tonight to turn out like it did. You know how sometimes you plan the day/night to go a certain way but then fate has other ideas 😩😔

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1687341062/0

Anyway .... 😔😩





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Reply #166 - Jun 21st, 2023 at 11:00pm
 
Wait a second ....aren’t dogs supposed to be awesome companions AS WELL as awesome therapy for those who suffer from loneliness/depression etc?

I bet these animals hold the key in addressing our country’s confronting depression and suicide stats.

If only there was some way of connecting dogs (sitting in pounds waiting to be adopted) with such people. Hmmm.

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Reply #167 - Jun 22nd, 2023 at 7:39am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 21st, 2023 at 9:22pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 21st, 2023 at 9:08pm:
Does it turn you on?



Real men doing battle like Roman gladiators - not poofy blokes.


Turns you on then, OK.
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Reply #168 - Jun 22nd, 2023 at 7:40am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 21st, 2023 at 10:25pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 21st, 2023 at 11:18am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 21st, 2023 at 11:11am:
I wear Small Man.


👆 😂🤣😆


I read it, and I hoped that people would not point that out.


I know, a clothing size but clowns will be clowns.
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Reply #169 - Jun 22nd, 2023 at 7:48am
 
Not all dogs will be therapy dogs. Don’t give someone in a small flat a Great Dane, don’t give someone who can’t walk far a kelpie. Retired and retrained greyhounds more suitable there.

Stray puppies in he RSPCA shelters usually stray for a good reason. I found out accidentally that Demi, just 3 months old when I got her, had been hit with books or other objects. Little puppy, hit! Socks seems to have been tormented by a toddler at her first or second home.
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Reply #170 - Jun 22nd, 2023 at 9:02am
 
I can’t believe I’m about to say this but the Monk id has FINALLY stated something worth reading and considering.

Which brings me to my question : WHO has commandeered Monk’s ID?

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Reply #171 - Jun 22nd, 2023 at 9:08am
 
I have adopted two dogs from the RSPCA so have some experience. Also, unlike way too many here, I can think and I read widely.

I would have loved to use Demi as a therapy dog in hospital and nursing home when volunteers were asked for but I was still running my businesses then later after I retired the club no longer did therapy visits. Socks would be good—she really is sweet natured—but NOT with children.
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Reply #172 - Jun 22nd, 2023 at 9:49am
 
Someone like you Monk could well be useful in linking suitable pets with Australians who live alone.

I’m thinking this could be a part time volunteer thing of course (there’s no money around these days). Even then I think volunteers should not be taken for granted. They ought to be respected and regarded. Monthly morning tea/luncheons perhaps to link up with other volunteers and share tips/experiences.

I’m assuming there’s SOME service like this in the community anyway. If not then there bloody well should be.

Local Councils should be onto this. Surely someone has worked out that dogs sitting around in overcrowded pounds could well be allocated on a case by case basis to those who need companionship and/or therapy!

The only obstacle I can foresee in such an arrangement is the cost to keep an animal (esp given current high inflation and interest rates etc).

Even then surely some arrangement could be worked out. I’m thinking more along the lines of allocating the dog to someone in need within the community along with someone else who may be able to sponsor the dog and help pay for its upkeep ie not physically care for the dog but will get regular updates on the animal and care giver.

Does anyone know if this type of scheme is already in existence? I wouldn’t know ... hence my question.

The idea came to me last night when we were discussing depression/suicide in this topic and I started linking all that to Monk (our resident recluse) and his rescue dog (you gotta admit that unlike Monk ... that dog is gorgeous and has most definitely captured our hearts).

Anyway ....
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Reply #173 - Jun 22nd, 2023 at 10:00am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 22nd, 2023 at 9:49am:
Surely someone has worked out that dogs sitting around in overcrowded pounds could well be allocated on a case by case basis to those who need companionship and/or therapy!



those people know more about dogs than you do.

You can't just grab a dog from the pound, take them to a nursing home etc and and hope it'll work. The dog needs to be trained and socialised and tested. That takes money and time.
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Reply #174 - Jun 22nd, 2023 at 10:05am
 
As I pointed out to the troll, puppies in the pound likely have issues from physical abuse anyway and so would not be suitable for therapy dogs.
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Reply #175 - Jun 22nd, 2023 at 10:11am
 
I’m thinking :

Case by case basis means selection criteria apply which must incorporate some well planned induction period (to test compatibility).

I wonder what the full full cost to retain an animal in a pound/day would be?

I bet they’re overcrowded too.

Rescue dogs are not there to be rescued by people .... they’re there to rescue people. Perhaps we need to change our attitude and approach to such animals.

If anyone knows any more information ... I’d love to hear from you.

I’m currently looking at information on community grants which may assist in launching such a program but I’m pretty sure I’m wasting my time by rediscovering the wheel.







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Reply #176 - Jun 22nd, 2023 at 10:18am
 
Frodo and Drunk

You obviously can’t keep up with me.

At some stage you might discover that not only have I left you both behind in this (as your pitiful feedback has already been addressed) ... I’m now looking at presenting a proposal (with a brand name) which may well be backed by a community grant.

Bye bye.



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Reply #177 - Jun 22nd, 2023 at 10:28am
 
LOL!

Puppies from the pound really are not suitable. Most have a history of physical abuse. Out of the two puppies I adopted from the RSPCA shelter BOTH had experienced physical abuse.
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Reply #178 - Jun 22nd, 2023 at 11:03am
 
Drunk! Give it a rest! I’m not listening to you OR your  ridiculous generalisations. ALL abused dogs (like all abused human beings) cannot and should not be thrown into the 1 too hard basket of NO HOPE!

And I swear to God your mentality is damaged beyond repair! Think Monk...think! What does THERAPY mean?? It doesn’t JUST mean golden retriever or labrador or blind person. Therapy functions across various levels ffs! For some people the therapy required comes by uniting them with the right dog so as to provide them with unconditional love and companionship because they’ve lost their husband or wife!

As I’ve stated earlier (and I’ll re iterate it once more in clearer terms)...the emphasis of therapy which I’m looking at is essentially mental health therapy! It’s about addressing dogs sitting in overcrowded pounds AND tackling depression and suicide in the community. Esp at a time where people are distressed given the current difficult economic conditions.

I’m tired of repeating myself! All the bloody time! And whenever I look up from typing on OzPol all I see is you (and your clueless mate Frodo) lagging behind me in topics and helplessly struggling to keep up! Grab a strong coffee ffs! I hate slowing down for you all the time. i
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Reply #179 - Jun 22nd, 2023 at 11:44am
 
I have adopted TWO dogs from the pound.

Try to think for a minute?

Why do puppies stray? Stray far enough the owner can’t find them. They stray because of physical abuse.

I give my dogs love, set boundaries and look to their needs, toiletting, walking, obedience training. In that environment the dogs lose the fear and feeling of rejection. This does not happen instantly.

I KNOW Demi, the Jack Russell/Maltese Terrier cross was hit with books and god knows what else.

I KNOW Socks was tormented by a toddler.


These dogs need therapy, in effect. That makes them unsuitable to help with therapy with people, damaged people that need help.
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