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Free speech has gone:
Jun 11th, 2023 at 11:33am
 
A great video from Rowan Atkinson. 

9 minutes:



2,980,928 views  May 31, 2023

The Christian Institute spearheaded the Reform Section 5 campaign to get the word ‘insulting’ removed from Section 5 of the Public Order Act, as part of the Crime and Courts Bill.

After a lengthy campaign, which included support from celebrities including Rowan Atkinson and Stephen Fry, the then Home Secretary Theresa May eventually agreed. The change is now incorporated in Section 57 of the Crime and Courts Act 2013 which came into force on 1 February 2014.



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Reply #1 - Jun 11th, 2023 at 12:10pm
 
Seems like we have the same laws in Australia.
You can be charged if you say something that might offend someone -
that could even be reading a few lines from the Bible
that either someone doesn't like or that someone is offended by or a cop
thinks that someone might be offended by.

Finally - communism has won the cold war.
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Reply #2 - Jun 11th, 2023 at 12:45pm
 
I got caught up in a false allegation being made against me over something that I did not say. Someone recorded a phone call of mine and then redacted the phone call to contradict what I said. When I finally found out what the issue was, I told the accuser that it was not what I had said. It took 12 years before I was cleared of any wrong doing. The phone company had to go into the archives of the phone calls to reveal that I had said something genuinely innocent. The accuser was then made subject to the law for fraud.
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Reply #3 - Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:11pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 12:10pm:
Seems like we have the same laws in Australia.
You can be charged if you say something that might offend someone -
that could even be reading a few lines from the Bible
that either someone doesn't like or that someone is offended by or a cop
thinks that someone might be offended by.

Finally - communism has won the cold war.


Isn't it more like Authoritarianism ?
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Reply #4 - Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:39pm
 
The "progressives" are trying to silence people, while the church is standing up for freedom of speech.
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Reply #5 - Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:43pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:39pm:
The "progressives" are trying to silence people, while the church is standing up for freedom of speech.



The progressives are mostly cultural Marxists.
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Reply #6 - Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:48pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 11:33am:
A great video from Rowan Atkinson. 

9 minutes:



2,980,928 views  May 31, 2023

The Christian Institute spearheaded the Reform Section 5 campaign to get the word ‘insulting’ removed from Section 5 of the Public Order Act, as part of the Crime and Courts Bill.

After a lengthy campaign, which included support from celebrities including Rowan Atkinson and Stephen Fry, the then Home Secretary Theresa May eventually agreed. The change is now incorporated in Section 57 of the Crime and Courts Act 2013 which came into force on 1 February 2014.



[media https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUezfuy8Qpc[/media]


9 minutes of my time is not free.

Nonsense is free as demonstrated by the arguments in this string.
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Reply #7 - Jun 11th, 2023 at 6:50pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 12:45pm:
I got caught up in a false allegation being made against me over something that I did not say. Someone recorded a phone call of mine and then redacted the phone call to contradict what I said. When I finally found out what the issue was, I told the accuser that it was not what I had said. It took 12 years before I was cleared of any wrong doing. The phone company had to go into the archives of the phone calls to reveal that I had said something genuinely innocent. The accuser was then made subject to the law for fraud.


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The phone company had to go into the archives of the phone calls


Find it difficult to believe that phone companies record all phone calls like this.
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Reply #8 - Jun 11th, 2023 at 6:52pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:43pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:39pm:
The "progressives" are trying to silence people, while the church is standing up for freedom of speech.



The progressives are mostly cultural Marxists.


I doubt that this stupidity has anything to do with progressives and there is no such thing as cultural marxism.

Sometimes stupid people do not come with a label.
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Reply #9 - Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:01pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 6:52pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:43pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:39pm:
The "progressives" are trying to silence people, while the church is standing up for freedom of speech.



The progressives are mostly cultural Marxists.


I doubt that this stupidity has anything to do with progressives


What would you call them?
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Reply #10 - Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:02pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:01pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 6:52pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:43pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:39pm:
The "progressives" are trying to silence people, while the church is standing up for freedom of speech.



The progressives are mostly cultural Marxists.


I doubt that this stupidity has anything to do with progressives


What would you call them?


Idiots.

Is the claim its progressive because it is woke legislation ?
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Reply #11 - Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:04pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:02pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:01pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 6:52pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:43pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:39pm:
The "progressives" are trying to silence people, while the church is standing up for freedom of speech.



The progressives are mostly cultural Marxists.


I doubt that this stupidity has anything to do with progressives


What would you call them?


Idiots.


You say that like they are mutually exclusive.
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Reply #12 - Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:11pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:04pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:02pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:01pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 6:52pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:43pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2023 at 2:39pm:
The "progressives" are trying to silence people, while the church is standing up for freedom of speech.



The progressives are mostly cultural Marxists.


I doubt that this stupidity has anything to do with progressives


What would you call them?


Idiots.


You say that like they are mutually exclusive.


Not when one half of the options were ruled out as it is more authoritarian in nature

Is the claim its progressive because it is woke legislation ?


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Reply #13 - Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:17pm
 
https://www.conservapedia.com/Cultural_Marxism

Cultural Marxism
- it can't stand for free speech.


Antonio Gramsci

Cultural Marxism is a branch of Marxist ideology formulated by the Frankfurt School, which had its origins the early part of the twentieth century. Cultural Marxism comprises much of the foundation of political correctness. It emerged as a response of European Marxist intellectuals disillusioned by the early political failures of conventional economic Marxist ideology.[1]

The central idea of Cultural Marxism is to soften up and prepare Western Civilization for economic Marxism after a gradual, relentless, sustained attack on every institution of Western culture,[2] including schools,[3] literature, art, film, the Judeo-Christian worldview, tradition, marriage and the family,[4] sexual mores, national sovereignty, etc.[5] The attacks are usually framed in Marxist terms as a class struggle between oppressors and oppressed; the members of the latter class allegedly include women, minorities, homosexuals, and adherents of non-Western ideologies such as Islam. Cultural Marxism has been described as "the cultural branch of globalism."[6]

While Marx's Communist Manifesto focused on the alleged class struggle between bourgeois (owners of the means of production) and proletariat (workers), Marx did address culture, which he intimated would change after his economic vision was implemented. Patrick Buchanan argues that Cultural Marxism succeeded where Marx failed.[7] Marxism has permeated the American Left.[8]
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Reply #14 - Jun 11th, 2023 at 8:29pm
 
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Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory


The term "Cultural Marxism" refers to a far-right antisemitic conspiracy theory which misrepresents the Frankfurt School as being responsible for modern progressive movements, identity politics, and political correctness. The conspiracy theory posits that there is an ongoing and intentional academic and intellectual effort to subvert Western society via a planned culture war that undermines the Christian values of traditionalist conservatism and seeks to replace them with culturally liberal values.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory

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