Those words get thrown around a lot - but it has different meanings to different people.

Those words are used as weapons - implying anyone who is racist or has racism is subhuman.

So what do these words mean?

Bobby. wrote on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 8:53am:


MLK you certainly are not 

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Boris,  gonads,  fd, crappler

Just to name a few

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 11:21am:



No, I think you're racist because you cry every time aborigines win a court case or are awarded some rights. You've never cried for any other group of people.

A person with a racist mindset only has to think a certain way about different racial backgrounds to be considered a racist. But you can only be confirmed a racist if you tell or act differently with people around with different races.

I can treat people with different racial backgrounds the same way, but differ the treatment according to their attitude toward me. Or I could be condescendingly racist and still be decent towards people of differing racial backgrounds. I have not really broken any laws.

I think we can leave the "racist" accusations against people who blatantly discriminate against people on the basis of their race.

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 11:27am:


There are no different laws,  no matter much you pretend otherwise

John Smith wrote on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 12:35pm:


Oh look, John Smith avoiding giving a straight answer.

Do you support having different laws, expectations and standards for different racial groups?

I doubt that attending church or temple is considered a good thing.

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 3:30pm:



Expectations and standards now? Don't tell me you're finally giving up pretending the laws are different?

People who hate Indigenous Australians, are Racists.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 5:08pm:


And indigenous Australians who hate white Australians are racist. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

John Smith wrote on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 4:57pm:


It's the same question John. The only thing that has changed is your deflection.

Do you support having different laws, expectations and standards for different racial groups?

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 5:12pm:


I have never denied it, Unsub.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 6:06pm:


I made posts to provoke you into making your personal position clear, to make you to recognise where you sat on the question - where you disliked Indigenous people or you liked them.  You finally declared yourself, unlike many here who hedge around it, rather than admit themselves because they are cowards.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   

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No fd. You'd previously cried that the laws were different only. The addition of 'expectations and standards' you only included today. Most likely because someone explained to you that there are no different laws. 

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 8:47pm:


Great, so you'll have no problems quoting these different laws?

John Smith.

We have a thing called Common Law in this country - and it took a long time and a lot of blood to get it installed in jolly old Englande in the first place.

It's not common as in low class etc - what it means is that there is one law for each thing, and each person is to be treated the same under that same law.  So when any government tells courts to go easy on a specific group - not only is that government acting as a tyrant, but it is violating the division of powers between government and courts, and it is dictating to the courts how and what they will do - all of which are contrary to law.

Obviously a New Labor (Labour once they got rid of U in it) government is precisely the kind of government that would impose such a thing and not think twice about it - since they assume that power in government means absolute power over everyone and everything..... feminised governments do that, since women think that's how it works.

Schoolyard bullying politics.... and it stands a very good chance of bringing this country to civil war or to its knees.... people who push this kind of thing are sociopaths, narcissists and petty demagogues in their own minds.

Look at Mr Peabody and his carrying on at No sayers about this absurd Voice idea.... how DARE they say NO!  He is a classic of the type, as are most of the rest of them.

Bring On The Revolution!

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 11:10pm:


Ever seen rape victims?

Ever seen a woman raped and then get her throat cut?

Ever seen a murdered child?

Ever seen a raped child?

I have - lost count of the number

But don't believe me

John Smith wrote on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 10:46am:


You don't have to be a racist to disagree with you.

It's the most overused & worn out word in the leftard arsenal.

It has very little meaning anymore because of the way it has been used by clowns like Smy et al.

Boris wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 9:25am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 4:04pm:


There are Racists who claim that Indigenous people are above the law.  In reality, they are just as subject to the law as are White fellas.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 4:50pm:


Indigenous Australians are not above the law. The Indigenous Australians are just not subjected to as strict application of the law, when they break the rules, as other Australians do.

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 11:10pm:


That did make me chuckle

freediver wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 4:45am:


how dare anyone let aborigines be heard ehh FD

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 6:20pm:


Your posts are very provocative. Your posts are also demotivational. The number of times you want to defend indigenous people every time someone makes a criticism about an indigenous-related issue is enough to wonder if you really care about people who are non-indigenous.

I spent much of my day interacting with people of varying backgrounds. I did not have a problem with any of them. The problem I have with racial discrimination is when it is applied at any time. And compensating racial background for historical injustices that happened to other people is just another reason why I hold my views the way I do. It is not like I can pick out WW2, or how my ancestors from 150 years ago were low-income earning farmers in England and Wales that were not treated fairly by the landholders, as a reason to justify a "what about me?" need for compensation.

Did you see Brian snap a branch in his brain when VIC moved a Topic I put up into his Board? 
This is a loser control freak 'bully' who abuses Posters for their posts and yet bans others for doing the same in his little Board of Dictatorship.

Hard to know if Brian is Idi Amin, Gaddafi, Hussein, Pinochet or just a Pol Pot???? 
I bet he's a Sex Tourist of South-East Asia though.
It's the moustache and fake-gold rolex army boy look. 

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 4:50pm:



Do you agree that they are not subject to the laws that govern what I posted above?

Jasin wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 6:11pm:

Hating on anyone because of the perception of their being part of some group is racism... so hating on people you reckon are racists is racist......

Boris wrote on Jun 6^th, 2023 at 9:14am:



Confirm that young kids had VD?

Bobby. wrote on Jun 6^th, 2023 at 9:15am:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5465837/Sexually-transmitted-diseases-n...

https://www.ntnews.com.au/news/northern-territory/sexually-transmitted-diseases-...


https://www.smh.com.au/national/territory-kids-suffer-terrifying-rates-of-stds-2...

John Smith wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 6:15pm:


You're a dumb khunt Smith.

They have been heard for decades ... by many voices in the number of groups who make representations on their behalf to govts from local to state & federal levels.

The NIAA is also their newest & possibly largest Voice .... it's charter is the same as the proposed Voice. $4.5 billion budget & 1,300 staff with  an Aboriginal CEO & Executive.

They have a Minister for Indigenous Australians in Linda Burney ... is she not a Voice?

Why do you leftoid numptards ignore these facts?

Bobby. wrote on Jun 6^th, 2023 at 9:15am:


This back in 2006.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2006-06-06/sexual-diseases-reported-in-indigenous-to...

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Source: Aboriginal sexual abuse - Creative Spirits, retrieved from https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/health/aboriginal-sexual-abus...

Why don't you make an effort to research it Booby?

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 9:13pm:



Well then you cannot be taken seriously on any matter regarding aboriginies.
You sir, are nothing more than an online troll.

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 6^th, 2023 at 11:23am:


You are assuming that one must automatically hate Indigenous people without cause.  My experience has been largely positive with Indigenous people i have met.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   

Boris wrote on Jun 6^th, 2023 at 10:07am:


John doesn't feel the horror. He feels the racism. He wants you to stop talking about it. Better they suffer in silence.

Because they are black.

Boris wrote on Jun 6^th, 2023 at 10:14am:


no, they are not

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 6^th, 2023 at 2:43pm:




Sure, sure Brian.
Whatever Brian.... tsk... tsk.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 9:24pm:


No projecting is coming from me at all. I treat people according to how they treat me. In fact, the last time an Asian person insulted me, it was when he was out with his friends at an eatery. He was leering at my daughter (who was not yet of age to consent). His friends joined in on the noisy "Mmm, mmm, mmm" nodding away as they stared at my daughter. Not that I would condemn all Indians for his (and his friends) actions. But, I spoke up and was insulted for speaking up.

I read your posts in the context that the Indian guy was justified in his actions because he was, allegedly, suffering the psychological affects of the British giving his grand parents an inferiority complex when the British ruled India.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 9:24pm:


Do you want to laugh at my insincere idea that I should claim compensation for being part of the descendants who worked as low-paid labourers and farmers in England and Wales in the 18th century? The basic idea of my previous post was to point out that I am not suffering the psychological affects of being a descendant of people who worked as tavern keeprs and farmers, etc. I should not be entitled to being compensated for previous problems that my ancestors endured.

As such, you have consented to saying that you would laugh at indigenous Australians who think that they are owed a living for what their ancestors endured.

Boris wrote on Jun 6^th, 2023 at 10:07am:


I certainly have seen this sort of behaviour. It took until I was working as a pizza delivery driver in my late teens that I began to see this quite common. I recall police needing to be called to my store to deal with a couple of louts that decided that they needed to pick a fight with one of my employees. After the police spent some minutes trying to fight these two clowns, the supervisor (20 years of age) asked them if they needed back up. The officer gave a sardonic "Yeah, that'll be great".

I remember being told about the co-worker getting mugged by a large group of indigenous people because they thought that they had a right to mug white people. I also recall the latter part of the year 2000 when groups of indigenous people -- aged teens to their 40s -- roamed Rockhampton looking to fight anyone not indigenous. The police sirens blared all over town.

Just recently, vigilante groups -- sick of hearing the constant car thefts -- took to patrolling the town in convoys. I recall seeing the vigilantes lining up in the drive-thru at McDonalds. They chanted their vigilante slogan whilst they awaited their meals. Then they went on their way to patrol neighbourhoods of people suspected of the car thefts.

Rockhampton (and Mackay) has given probably 40 years of leniency towards indigenous people. It has only been the last 2 years that vigilante groups have sprung up deciding that "enough is enough". Whilst I do not condone vigilante behaviour, I certainly understand their motivations behind the vigliante groups. I have personally witnessed at least 3 car thefts in my suburb. If there was a matter of car owners dragging the car thieves out of the car and beating them to a pulp, I would actually understand. They certainly would be justified.

Riots that happen in public places should be dealt with as quickly and as efficiently as possible. I no longer give indigenous people any leniency for their self-inflicted antisocial and unlawful behaviour.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 6^th, 2023 at 12:52pm:


We owe indigenous people nothing. They lost. Indigenous people currently have the right to retain their culture. But, if they want to live in a civilisation, they can leave any antisocial behaviour behind.

Indigenous people have had 40,000+ years to get their act together. If they cannot do it inside 5 years, they are not trying.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 6^th, 2023 at 8:32pm:


You are so understanding, Unsub.  Tell me, how long have you been on the Dole?  How about we give you a few months to sort yourself out and get a good paying job?  Off you go, set an example, lets see how good you are!  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   

Brian is a racist who hates Yellow People.
Apparently waging War and violence against them is justified in 'their' part of the world.
Vietnam?
Korea?
Taiwan?

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 6^th, 2023 at 9:13pm:


If I was idle, like many indigenous people on the dole, I would not be on the dole for longer than 6 months. In fact, if I did not show up to my job network meetings, I would have had my welfare cancelled in no uncertain terms. Try that sort of thing with indigenous people, they will riot through the streets and get put into custody for a feed, a bed, and shelter.

I was on Youth Allowance from the year 1999 to 2006. Then I was on Newstart until some years ago. Then it was changed to JobSeeker.

There have been comment about me on how I am a capable person, but not working more than 20 hours a week (most of the time). I have been challenged to work more than 40 hours a week, just to test if I was up to the task of working full-time hours. I succeeded. The only question left to ask is which place of employment will accept me. There have been a lot of knock backs from employment places, despite the hundreds of applications I have made. I will have to rely on my current TAFE course teacher to put me (and fellow students) in contact with relevant employment, during my training in the next few months.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 6^th, 2023 at 9:29pm:


Indians have been on record, speaking in English, talking about threatening Australia with a nuclear attack. All because there were news reports about Indians in Australia attacking other Indians, and then blaming Australia. Indians have a severe racism against foreigners and other races issue, and it has not been covered up in the media.

And if you have worked with or around Indian people, they show little regard for you, if you are not Indian. Women who have dated Indian men have not given Indian men good reviews. Indian men are very controlling of their women. You could imagine how unsettling it would have been for my 15-year-old daughter to have heard South Asian men being within earshot of her Mmm-hmm in varying tones whilst they leered at her. Indian men consider blonde women (and girls) as prostitutes.

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That is clear double standards, right there, Brian. Either their ancestors were part of the problem or part of the solution. It is hard to be both. My white ancestors worked hard to get what they earned. I can only try to live up to their standards of work ethic. Indigenous people don't talk about their ancestors. It is forbidden in some cultures to mention their names or what they look like.

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Oh, rubbish. You are subjected to the rules of law and the society you inhabit. Whether you want to ditch the language and culture is not something that gets forced, no matter how many times it has been tried. Even dead languages are making a come back in places. I happen to be trying to learn new languages and cultures. Indigenous Australians are their own worst enemies when it comes to losing the culture.

Well .... when people start to put comments like 'bunch of old white people' in place of discussion of a NO case meeting, and steer away from the issues for all Stakeholders with Rights and in need of a Voice ...... not only is that first group racist, but they are ageist as well and probably sexist and supremacist ..... not to even mention genderist....

Funny how some are so lost they imagine that only selected groups can have Rights and need a Voice or anything..... and the moment any different Voice is heard, they jump up and down as if this is some obscenity.... that is pure madness....

Good reason to vote NO just to counter the utterly stupid out there.

freediver wrote on Jun 6^th, 2023 at 3:44pm:


I'm still waiting for you to put up those different laws

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 7:45pm:


Again?

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 9:57pm:


I'll repeat myself. The voice, for starters. How about instead of dribbling some nonsense again, you tell us whether you realise yet that this amendment to the constitution would treat people differently on the basis of race.