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Reply #240 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 12:44pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 12:34pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 3:34pm:


Australian voters favour darker-skinned indigenous political candidates over all others, and left-wingers have a massive bias against White men and women, new research shows.

“Public bias toward indigenous prospective candidates thus does exist, but, in our study, it favours, rather than penalises, them.”

The authors wrote that the findings could be explained by a positive “violation of expectations”, when a person with unexpectedly positive characteristics is evaluated more favourably than a person with equally positive but expected ones.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/inverte...

https://www.noticer.news/australian-voters-bias-white-indigenous-candidates-stud...


In other words, they expect Aborigines to be inferior, so when they see one capable of running for office they feel so violated they have to vote for them.
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Reply #241 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 12:56pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 12:44pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 12:34pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 3:34pm:


Australian voters favour darker-skinned indigenous political candidates over all others, and left-wingers have a massive bias against White men and women, new research shows.

“Public bias toward indigenous prospective candidates thus does exist, but, in our study, it favours, rather than penalises, them.”

The authors wrote that the findings could be explained by a positive “violation of expectations”, when a person with unexpectedly positive characteristics is evaluated more favourably than a person with equally positive but expected ones.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/inverte...

https://www.noticer.news/australian-voters-bias-white-indigenous-candidates-stud...


In other words, they expect Aborigines to be inferior, so when they see one capable of running for office they feel so violated they have to vote for them.

Not only but also:



They also expected to find that the more right-wing a respondent was, the more poorly they would rate indigenous candidates on both warmth and competence, due to studies showing that “right-wing ideology predicts a considerable increase of out-group hostility in the case of ethnic prejudices”.

“We uncovered the contrary: an inverted hierarchy in which darker-skinned indigenous aspirant candidates fared better than all others,” the authors wrote.
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Reply #242 - Oct 23rd, 2025 at 6:31pm
 
The pushback is looming - people are sick and tired of the racuism inherent in land claims etc:-

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You have until 4:55 pm Friday to issue individual apologies to the children, to the mums and dads, and to the businesses in our community that your stupid, brain-dead decisions have affected. How any one of you could justify what you have supported on our behalf in silence is inexcusable.

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Reply #243 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 8:52am
 
Australia’s leading Anglo-Celtic advocacy group has called on the Race Discrimination Commissioner to apologise for publishing a statement saying White people cannot experience racism.

Indian-born bureaucrat Giridharan Sivaraman, who is paid $408,000 a year in taxpayer funds by the Australian Human Rights Commission, included the claim in a Common Myths & Misconceptions About Racism guide that accompanies his National Anti-Racism Framework.

An explainer in the guide produced by Mr Sivaraman states: “Whilst White people can experience multiple forms of discrimination or prejudice based on gender, sexual orientation, ability, age, or class; they cannot experience racism.”

The guide produced by Mr Sivaraman states in an explainer: “Whilst white people can experience multiple forms of discrimination or prejudice based on gender, sexual orientation, ability, age, or class; they cannot experience racism.

“Racism is more than just prejudice, and is accompanied by power to discriminate against, oppress or limit the rights of others. Sometimes terms like “reverse racism” or “anti-white racism” are used to describe situations where White people feel they have been discriminated against because of their whiteness.

“This is a common and particularly harmful misconception, often resulting from a fundamental misunderstanding of the difference between racism and other forms of discrimination, as well as the relationship between racialisation and power.”

Ms Chandler also asked the Commissioner about statements he made in an interview earlier this year calling Australia Day racist and saying it shouldn’t be celebrated.

“Australia Day is ‘invasion day’ for our first nations brothers and sisters and is a day of mourning in many ways, and is not a day to be celebrated, and not to acknowledge that just compounds racism,” Mr Sivaraman was quoted as saying, but he told Ms Chandler he meant Australia Day was a day not to be celebrated “for some first peoples”.
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Reply #244 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 9:41am
 
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Whilst White people can experience multiple forms of discrimination or prejudice based on gender, sexual orientation, ability, age, or class; they cannot experience racism.


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Here is the link to it - the two links down the bottom under downloads:

https://humanrights.gov.au/resources-myths-and-misconceptions-about-racism
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Reply #245 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 9:49am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 9:41am:
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Whilst White people can experience multiple forms of discrimination or prejudice based on gender, sexual orientation, ability, age, or class; they cannot experience racism.


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Here is the link to it - the two links down the bottom under downloads:

https://humanrights.gov.au/resources-myths-and-misconceptions-about-racism


Do you have a clear definition of what you consider racist or racism from a forum moderation perspective?

There are consistent, openly gratuitous attacks on racial groups here, including the use of racial slurs and stereotypes, behaviours that, on paper, would clearly breach the forum rules you've set.

So I'm curious: do you and your moderation team operate with a different standard than what is traditionally understood as racism? Or are you condoning the open racism that is regularly posted in this forum?
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Reply #246 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 10:03am
 
Sad Kangaroo is a racist against white people.
He considers white people who breed as inferior.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #247 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 10:12am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 9:49am:
freediver wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 9:41am:
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Whilst White people can experience multiple forms of discrimination or prejudice based on gender, sexual orientation, ability, age, or class; they cannot experience racism.


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Here is the link to it - the two links down the bottom under downloads:

https://humanrights.gov.au/resources-myths-and-misconceptions-about-racism


Do you have a clear definition of what you consider racist or racism from a forum moderation perspective?

There are consistent, openly gratuitous attacks on racial groups here, including the use of racial slurs and stereotypes, behaviours that, on paper, would clearly breach the forum rules you've set.

So I'm curious: do you and your moderation team operate with a different standard than what is traditionally understood as racism? Or are you condoning the open racism that is regularly posted in this forum?



Brian Ross wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 3:02pm:
"Racism" is a social construct without evidence

The title should actually be, "without scientific evidence" but forum limitations prevented me from being accurate.  Genetically there is more differences between individuals than between various "racial" groups, "Racism" is a social construct, something dreamed up by anthropologists to justify their classification of the various "racial" groups based on superficial differences in skin colour/eye shape/hair frizziness/nose shape/lip thickness/etc.  There are no major genetic differences between the various "races".  Humans can all interbreed.  The visible differences are because of environmental adaptation to conditions, nothing more.  It does not denote anything major Genetically. 

Genetics is the key, it is how we identify differences between groups of creatures, it is how we know a species is a species.  There is only one human species, the homo homo sapiens and we are all members.  Anything else is a social construct created by Racists.  Eugenics is dead and buried.  It was overturned by WWII and the destruction of the Nazi regime.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




Racism:
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Reply #248 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 11:06am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 9:49am:
freediver wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 9:41am:
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Whilst White people can experience multiple forms of discrimination or prejudice based on gender, sexual orientation, ability, age, or class; they cannot experience racism.


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Here is the link to it - the two links down the bottom under downloads:

https://humanrights.gov.au/resources-myths-and-misconceptions-about-racism


Do you have a clear definition of what you consider racist or racism from a forum moderation perspective?

There are consistent, openly gratuitous attacks on racial groups here, including the use of racial slurs and stereotypes, behaviours that, on paper, would clearly breach the forum rules you've set.

So I'm curious: do you and your moderation team operate with a different standard than what is traditionally understood as racism? Or are you condoning the open racism that is regularly posted in this forum?


I am not sure why you are suggesting my definition of racism would change with the context.
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Reply #249 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 11:20am
 
Racism. The right of the archaic Rome/Athens westernism (as opposed to British Commonwealth westernism) Democrat Leftism to wage RACE WAR against the Yellow Race, but oppose anything alike in defense against the Black race.

Tg: USA's right to invade Yellow Asia with warfare. But suppressing Australia's right to defend itself against hostilities from the Blacks of Africa.
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Reply #250 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 1:26pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 11:06am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 9:49am:
freediver wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 9:41am:
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Whilst White people can experience multiple forms of discrimination or prejudice based on gender, sexual orientation, ability, age, or class; they cannot experience racism.


Shocked

Here is the link to it - the two links down the bottom under downloads:

https://humanrights.gov.au/resources-myths-and-misconceptions-about-racism


Do you have a clear definition of what you consider racist or racism from a forum moderation perspective?

There are consistent, openly gratuitous attacks on racial groups here, including the use of racial slurs and stereotypes, behaviours that, on paper, would clearly breach the forum rules you've set.

So I'm curious: do you and your moderation team operate with a different standard than what is traditionally understood as racism? Or are you condoning the open racism that is regularly posted in this forum?


I am not sure why you are suggesting my definition of racism would change with the context.


Perhaps I have it wrong then, but would not your definition be the law of the land here?

People routinely use racial slurs and spout bigoted, racist rhetoric by any measure.

Any measure, it would seem, but yours, as it is never subject to moderation.

So either the rules don't matter, you and your mod team are also racists, or you have a different way of defining it.

So I'm left wondering, given I don't think the first 2 options could possibly apply, what would you define racism as?
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Reply #251 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 1:37pm
 
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Perhaps I have it wrong then, but would not your definition be the law of the land here?

People routinely use racial slurs and spout bigoted, racist rhetoric by any measure.


I forgive you, PK.
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Reply #252 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 4:39pm
 
Racism is handing over a million acres to one group over some alleged past claim to owning the whole lot even though it was 99.999% virgin bush etc.

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Reply #253 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 4:56pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 1:26pm:
People routinely use racial slurs and spout bigoted, racist rhetoric by any measure.

Any measure, it would seem, but yours, as it is never subject to moderation.


So then, it would seem, as there are no overtly Aboriginals, Torres Strait Islanders or Asians here, that the can be no racism against whitey. Roll Eyes
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Reply #254 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 5:24pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 1:37pm:
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Perhaps I have it wrong then, but would not your definition be the law of the land here?

People routinely use racial slurs and spout bigoted, racist rhetoric by any measure.


I forgive you, PK.


I didn't expect an answer, but thanks for the response at least

It was worth a try
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