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Reply #30 - Jun 4^th, 2023 at 5:22pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 1:04pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2023 at 10:39pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2023 at 10:06pm:

To be fair, I will go and read up on my textbooks about indigenous culture before I make further comment about this topic.

Dig up the pre-1788 ones to avoid any collusion or malicious changing of anything...............

As European contact was confined to basically post-1788, it would be hard to find much written that was meaningful pre-1788. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You could always read up on the brief encounters prior contact that indigenous people had with Europeans. Reports that when boats got too close to the mainland, indigenous people would run out to the beach to shout at the passing ships to stay away. Other reports suggested that the visiting Chinese ships lost crew to the cannibalizing indigenous people. "Going out for Chinese" took on a whole new meaning.

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 89438 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Surprise - not Reply #31 - Jun 4^th, 2023 at 5:35pm They liked Chinese, They liked Chinese, Boiled up, or fried or fricaseed, Nice little rice-feds right down to their knees. They liked Chine-ese.
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Reply #32 - Jun 5^th, 2023 at 9:29am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 1:03pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 6:23am:

When have they not?

It has nothing to do with "racists" eliminating" them... as you put it.

And when there are no defining features that say you're Aboriginal other than a say so then I'd say they're doing a fair job of eliminating themselves.
It is their choice also to marry outside their race.

Aboriginals have been recognised as part of the nation since the 60's.... the choice to be actively part of it or not has been their own.

Enshrining an amendment/body into the Constitution based on race is racist.

You have no idea about the history of "Race" relations in Australia, do you? When you figure them out, get back to us, OK? Until then, don't waste our time with your stupidity. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You keep living in the 18th & 19th centuries.

They, like you need to build a bridge.

Oh & "waste our time"?

You preening old ponce you're on your own.

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Reply #33 - Jun 5^th, 2023 at 1:53pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 9:29am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 1:03pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 6:23am:

When have they not?

It has nothing to do with "racists" eliminating" them... as you put it.

And when there are no defining features that say you're Aboriginal other than a say so then I'd say they're doing a fair job of eliminating themselves.
It is their choice also to marry outside their race.

Aboriginals have been recognised as part of the nation since the 60's.... the choice to be actively part of it or not has been their own.

Enshrining an amendment/body into the Constitution based on race is racist.

You have no idea about the history of "Race" relations in Australia, do you? When you figure them out, get back to us, OK? Until then, don't waste our time with your stupidity. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You keep living in the 18th & 19th centuries.

They, like you need to build a bridge.

Oh & "waste our time"?

You preening old ponce you're on your own.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you should stop listening to the voices in your head. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #34 - Jun 5^th, 2023 at 2:26pm

Boris wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 4:22pm:

Another new thread from Boris, who can't defend his own blind-ideology-stance on aborigial affairs.

Of course allowing unfettered access to blacks in dysfunctional commuities will be a disaster.

But so is refusing to fund the necessary individual case management programs, to deal with dysfunctional families.

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Reply #35 - Jun 5^th, 2023 at 3:10pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 2:26pm:

Boris wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 4:22pm:

Another new thread from Boris, who can't defend his own blind-ideology-stance on aborigial affairs.

Of course allowing unfettered access to blacks in dysfunctional commuities will be a disaster.

But so is refusing to fund the necessary individual case management programs, to deal with dysfunctional families.

How many dead babies have you seen and had to handle?

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Reply #36 - Jun 5^th, 2023 at 3:14pm

Boris wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 3:10pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 2:26pm:

Boris wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 4:22pm:

Another new thread from Boris, who can't defend his own blind-ideology-stance on aborigial affairs.

Of course allowing unfettered access to blacks in dysfunctional commuities will be a disaster.

But so is refusing to fund the necessary individual case management programs, to deal with dysfunctional families.

How many dead babies have you seen and had to handle?

About as many as you have, Troll. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #37 - Jun 5^th, 2023 at 4:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 3:14pm:

Boris wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 3:10pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 2:26pm:

Boris wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 4:22pm:

Another new thread from Boris, who can't defend his own blind-ideology-stance on aborigial affairs.

Of course allowing unfettered access to blacks in dysfunctional commuities will be a disaster.

But so is refusing to fund the necessary individual case management programs, to deal with dysfunctional families.

How many dead babies have you seen and had to handle?

About as many as you have, Troll. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You are Gaslighting

I have seen real horror

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Reply #38 - Jun 5^th, 2023 at 4:42pm

Boris wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 3:10pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 2:26pm:

Boris wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 4:22pm:

Another new thread from Boris, who can't defend his own blind-ideology-stance on aborigial affairs.

Of course allowing unfettered access to blacks in dysfunctional commuities will be a disaster.

But so is refusing to fund the necessary individual case management programs, to deal with dysfunctional families.

How many dead babies have you seen and had to handle?

None, actually. And your point re govt. refusing to fund the necessary individual case management programs, to deal with dysfunctional families, is?

Time to continue your blind ideology-based rants under a new heading, Boris?.....3 so far, surely you can think of another heading.

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Reply #39 - Jun 5^th, 2023 at 4:47pm

Boris wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 4:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 3:14pm:

Boris wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 3:10pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 2:26pm:

Boris wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 4:22pm:

Another new thread from Boris, who can't defend his own blind-ideology-stance on aborigial affairs.

Of course allowing unfettered access to blacks in dysfunctional commuities will be a disaster.

But so is refusing to fund the necessary individual case management programs, to deal with dysfunctional families.

How many dead babies have you seen and had to handle?

About as many as you have, Troll. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You are Gaslighting

I have seen real horror

Yeah, sure, Matty, all on your video screen, hey? The latest Hollywood blockbuster, hey? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #41 - Jun 5^th, 2023 at 9:22pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 4:42pm:

Boris wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 3:10pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 2:26pm:

Boris wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 4:22pm:

Another new thread from Boris, who can't defend his own blind-ideology-stance on aborigial affairs.

Of course allowing unfettered access to blacks in dysfunctional commuities will be a disaster.

But so is refusing to fund the necessary individual case management programs, to deal with dysfunctional families.

How many dead babies have you seen and had to handle?

None, actually. And your point re govt. refusing to fund the necessary individual case management programs, to deal with dysfunctional families, is?

Time to continue your blind ideology-based rants under a new heading, Boris?.....3 so far, surely you can think of another heading.

Oooh - that should be a costly venture to achieve next to nothing... 'individual case management programs' - first you'll need to round 'em all up, then put 'em in a safe space in Aborassic Park for 're-education'....

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Reply #42 - Jun 5^th, 2023 at 9:45pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 9:22pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 4:42pm:

Boris wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 3:10pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 2:26pm:

Boris wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 4:22pm:

Another new thread from Boris, who can't defend his own blind-ideology-stance on aborigial affairs.

Of course allowing unfettered access to blacks in dysfunctional commuities will be a disaster.

But so is refusing to fund the necessary individual case management programs, to deal with dysfunctional families.

How many dead babies have you seen and had to handle?

None, actually. And your point re govt. refusing to fund the necessary individual case management programs, to deal with dysfunctional families, is?

Time to continue your blind ideology-based rants under a new heading, Boris?.....3 so far, surely you can think of another heading.

Oooh - that should be a costly venture to achieve next to nothing... 'individual case management programs' - first you'll need to round 'em all up, then put 'em in a safe space in Aborassic Park for 're-education'....

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/104438949307400801?journalCode=fisa

Abstract
Case management is used within a broad range of human services programs. The author examines case-management practice from a systems perspective, exploring interorganizational issues and case managers' fiscal authority. Case managers' potential to produce systems change has been underdeveloped because most case managers cannot influence the distribution, type, and supply of resources within their local delivery systems. Strategies designed to enhance case managers' system-level effectiveness are discussed. Program examples in mental health, community-based long-term care, and health care are analyzed.

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Reply #43 - Jun 5^th, 2023 at 9:57pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 9:45pm:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/104438949307400801?journalCode=fisa

Abstract
Case management is used within a broad range of human services programs. The author examines case-management practice from a systems perspective, exploring interorganizational issues and case managers' fiscal authority. Case managers' potential to produce systems change has been underdeveloped because most case managers cannot influence the distribution, type, and supply of resources within their local delivery systems. Strategies designed to enhance case managers' system-level effectiveness are discussed. Program examples in mental health, community-based long-term care, and health care are analyzed.

Wow - how much per dysfunction? For how long? At what point will they give up and just let them relapse?

So now you wnat every Indigenous family to have a case manager for them at huge cost.....

Somebody tell 'im 'e's dreamin' ....

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Reply #44 - Jun 5^th, 2023 at 10:03pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 9:57pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 9:45pm:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/104438949307400801?journalCode=fisa

Abstract
Case management is used within a broad range of human services programs. The author examines case-management practice from a systems perspective, exploring interorganizational issues and case managers' fiscal authority. Case managers' potential to produce systems change has been underdeveloped because most case managers cannot influence the distribution, type, and supply of resources within their local delivery systems. Strategies designed to enhance case managers' system-level effectiveness are discussed. Program examples in mental health, community-based long-term care, and health care are analyzed.

Wow - how much per dysfunction? For how long? At what point will they give up and just let them relapse?

So now you wnat every Indigenous family to have a case manager for them at huge cost.....

Somebody tell 'im 'e's dreamin' ....

No; just showing the possibilities if govt. wasn't crippled by your "unchange-able" monetary system.

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