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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 44287	Archaeologists say Moluccan boats depicted solving May 28^th, 2023 at 1:15pm Archaeologists say Moluccan boats depicted in Arnhem Land rock art, solving mystery
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Re: Archaeologists say Moluccan boats depicted solving
Reply #1 - May 28^th, 2023 at 3:33pm

Well - why wouldn't they have sometimes made landfall here - looks Chinese to me.

No big deal. Just hand the joint over to the Moluccans.

'interacted with' - like Captain Cook, they ran into the joint.... they came, they saw, they went away..... WOW!! Complex interaction and international trade via the land trade routes ...... I can just see them guys lugging them stone bowls 300 miles to the ocean to trade for some old fish... just pack 'em on the ute.... that's her over there - that old sheila...

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Reply #2 - May 28^th, 2023 at 4:11pm

Papuans were the first to use 'canal farming and agriculture' in the world 9,000 years ago that was similar to what evolved in the Middle-East 6,000 years ago.

There was 'trade' of techniques between Papuans and Cape York Aborigines to some extent - but for reasons unknown, the Aborigines didn't adopt the Papuan's way of farming.

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Reply #3 - May 28^th, 2023 at 5:02pm

Jasin wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:11pm:

Papuans were the first to use 'canal farming and agriculture' in the world 9,000 years ago that was similar to what evolved in the Middle-East 6,000 years ago.

There was 'trade' of techniques between Papuans and Cape York Aborigines to some extent - but for reasons unknown, the Aborigines didn't adopt the Papuan's way of farming.

Ahhhh... MYTE... that's 'work' - easier to catch a cane toad for supper...... a fish trap or two was enough work for a year or so.... give it a break...

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Re: Archaeologists say Moluccan boats depicted solving
Reply #4 - May 28^th, 2023 at 5:20pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 5:02pm:

Jasin wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:11pm:

Papuans were the first to use 'canal farming and agriculture' in the world 9,000 years ago that was similar to what evolved in the Middle-East 6,000 years ago.

There was 'trade' of techniques between Papuans and Cape York Aborigines to some extent - but for reasons unknown, the Aborigines didn't adopt the Papuan's way of farming.

Ahhhh... MYTE... that's 'work' - easier to catch a cane toad for supper...... a fish trap or two was enough work for a year or so.... give it a break...

And what do Cane Toads taste like Grapps?

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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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Reply #6 - May 28^th, 2023 at 7:19pm

Jasin wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:11pm:

Papuans were the first to use 'canal farming and agriculture' in the world 9,000 years ago that was similar to what evolved in the Middle-East 6,000 years ago.

There was 'trade' of techniques between Papuans and Cape York Aborigines to some extent - but for reasons unknown, the Aborigines didn't adopt the Papuan's way of farming.

The Papuan way of farming was slash & burn subsistence farming. And you're right Aboriginals didn't adopt it.

However Torres Strait Islanders who are Melanesians like Papuans certainly did.

The whole case for Land Rights in Australia - the MABO Case & decision was based on Eddie Mabos claim for a slash & burn subsistence garden plot of land on Murray(Mer) Island 188 klm off the tip of Cape York in the Coral Sea.

Had nothing to do with mainland Australia.

And communities on the tip of Cape York ...like Seisia have a predominantly Melanesian/Islander base.

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Reply #7 - May 28^th, 2023 at 7:21pm

Jasin wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 5:20pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 5:02pm:

Jasin wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:11pm:

Papuans were the first to use 'canal farming and agriculture' in the world 9,000 years ago that was similar to what evolved in the Middle-East 6,000 years ago.

There was 'trade' of techniques between Papuans and Cape York Aborigines to some extent - but for reasons unknown, the Aborigines didn't adopt the Papuan's way of farming.

Ahhhh... MYTE... that's 'work' - easier to catch a cane toad for supper...... a fish trap or two was enough work for a year or so.... give it a break...

And what do Cane Toads taste like Grapps?

Stir one up & give it a lick to see how you go....

ring us when you come down or when you get out of hospital.

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Re: Archaeologists say Moluccan boats depicted solving
Reply #8 - May 28^th, 2023 at 7:53pm

Gnads wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 6:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 1:15pm:

Archaeologists say Moluccan boats depicted in Arnhem Land rock art, solving mystery Cool

Yeah just like the Bradshaws in the Kimberley depicting different peoples.

You've been told before about Moluccan influence in NT & top end of WA.

I have never denied it, despite what you believe. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #9 - May 28^th, 2023 at 7:58pm

Gnads wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 7:19pm:

Jasin wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:11pm:

Papuans were the first to use 'canal farming and agriculture' in the world 9,000 years ago that was similar to what evolved in the Middle-East 6,000 years ago.

There was 'trade' of techniques between Papuans and Cape York Aborigines to some extent - but for reasons unknown, the Aborigines didn't adopt the Papuan's way of farming.

The Papuan way of farming was slash & burn subsistence farming. And you're right Aboriginals didn't adopt it.

However Torres Strait Islanders who are Melanesians like Papuans certainly did.

The whole case for Land Rights in Australia - the MABO Case & decision was based on Eddie Mabos claim for a slash & burn subsistence garden plot of land on Murray(Mer) Island 188 klm off the tip of Cape York in the Coral Sea.

Had nothing to do with mainland Australia.

And communities on the tip of Cape York ...like Seisia have a predominantly Melanesian/Islander base.

Budj Bim was an example of Aquaculture, before the arrival of European colonists. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Archaeologists say Moluccan boats depicted solving
Reply #10 - May 28^th, 2023 at 8:20pm

Jasin wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 5:20pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 5:02pm:

Jasin wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:11pm:

Papuans were the first to use 'canal farming and agriculture' in the world 9,000 years ago that was similar to what evolved in the Middle-East 6,000 years ago.

There was 'trade' of techniques between Papuans and Cape York Aborigines to some extent - but for reasons unknown, the Aborigines didn't adopt the Papuan's way of farming.

Ahhhh... MYTE... that's 'work' - easier to catch a cane toad for supper...... a fish trap or two was enough work for a year or so.... give it a break...

And what do Cane Toads taste like Grapps?

I was being facetious... there were no cane toads back then to trade with the Moluccans.

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Re: Archaeologists say Moluccan boats depicted solving
Reply #11 - May 28^th, 2023 at 8:28pm

Gnads wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 7:19pm:

Jasin wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:11pm:

Papuans were the first to use 'canal farming and agriculture' in the world 9,000 years ago that was similar to what evolved in the Middle-East 6,000 years ago.

There was 'trade' of techniques between Papuans and Cape York Aborigines to some extent - but for reasons unknown, the Aborigines didn't adopt the Papuan's way of farming.

The Papuan way of farming was slash & burn subsistence farming. And you're right Aboriginals didn't adopt it.

However Torres Strait Islanders who are Melanesians like Papuans certainly did.

The whole case for Land Rights in Australia - the MABO Case & decision was based on Eddie Mabos claim for a slash & burn subsistence garden plot of land on Murray(Mer) Island 188 klm off the tip of Cape York in the Coral Sea.

Had nothing to do with mainland Australia.

And communities on the tip of Cape York ...like Seisia have a predominantly Melanesian/Islander base.

And...............................

They liked Chinese...
They liked Chinese..
Even without the deep freeze,
'Cause they're sweet and they're tasty and they go down with ease.

They liked Chinese hams,
Racks that looked a lot like lambs,
Leftovers with different types of jams,
'Cause they're sweet and they're tender and make leftover spam.

They liked Chinese as food,
Now don't you go being rude,
Cannibals are not always crude,
They like well-cooked and tender and easily chewed....

Theeeey liked Chine-ese!!

Ain't I a bastard? Thank you... thank you.....

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Boris Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4370 Gender:	Re: Archaeologists say Moluccan boats depicted solving Reply #12 - May 29^th, 2023 at 8:55am who cares?
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Reply #13 - May 29^th, 2023 at 9:45am

Brian Ross wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 7:58pm:

Gnads wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 7:19pm:

Jasin wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:11pm:

Papuans were the first to use 'canal farming and agriculture' in the world 9,000 years ago that was similar to what evolved in the Middle-East 6,000 years ago.

There was 'trade' of techniques between Papuans and Cape York Aborigines to some extent - but for reasons unknown, the Aborigines didn't adopt the Papuan's way of farming.

The Papuan way of farming was slash & burn subsistence farming. And you're right Aboriginals didn't adopt it.

However Torres Strait Islanders who are Melanesians like Papuans certainly did.

The whole case for Land Rights in Australia - the MABO Case & decision was based on Eddie Mabos claim for a slash & burn subsistence garden plot of land on Murray(Mer) Island 188 klm off the tip of Cape York in the Coral Sea.

Had nothing to do with mainland Australia.

And communities on the tip of Cape York ...like Seisia have a predominantly Melanesian/Islander base.

Budj Bim was an example of Aquaculture, before the arrival of European colonists. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Really..... & that might have what to do with Cape York & the Torres Strait Islands?

Anyways when did they stop farming those eels? Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 44287	Re: Archaeologists say Moluccan boats depicted solving Reply #14 - May 29^th, 2023 at 1:07pm Boris wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 8:55am: who cares? Those who want to know what happened, all those years ago, Matty. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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