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NSW cops prove to be SERIOUSLY STUPID!
May 22nd, 2023 at 7:17am
 

I really don’t know what else to say about our police force here in NSW.

Absolutely disgraceful! 😐


6 NSW police officers used 2 sets of handcuffs on a distressed 81-year-old dementia patient

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Reply #1 - May 22nd, 2023 at 7:22am
 
NOTE : It’s taken how many years for this incident to finally hit the news???

Six NSW police officials used two sets of handcuffs on a distressed 81-year-old woman battling dementia at her nursing home in Sydney, bodycam footage has revealed.

Rachel Grahame reportedly took a lanyard from a staff member at her Sydney nursing home in October 2020. Bodycam footage of police officials has revealed that the officers surrounded Grahame and handcuffed her late at night at St Basil’s aged care home in Randwick on 31 October 2020.

The crying and howling woman can be seen asking the officials why they are handcuffing her. Visibly in distress, she cries out to one of the officers and calls him a “big brute”.

The family of Grahame later sued the NSW police and the police settled the lawsuit in November 2021.

Now Rachel’s daughter, Emma Grahame has spoken publicly about the distressing incident. In an interview with the Guardian, she said: “It just showed me that the police have learned nothing from the actions that we took against them.”

Her comments come in the wake of revelations that police used a Taser on 95-year-old dementia patient, Clare Nowland in Cooma recently.
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Reply #2 - May 22nd, 2023 at 7:25am
 
What does this prove Lisa?
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Reply #3 - May 22nd, 2023 at 7:27am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 7:17am:
I really don’t know what else to say about our police force here in NSW.

Absolutely disgraceful! 😐


6 NSW police officers used 2 sets of handcuffs on a distressed 81-year-old dementia patient

Sun, 21 May 2023, 5:25 pm AEST·


https://au.news.yahoo.com/six-nsw-police-officers-used-072522960.html



When QLD Cops have done the same within the same short time frame as this incident & the Cooma one .....

I might agree with you.

But from where I sit - with underworld corruption infecting the NSW cop force over decades ....

I'd say they're winners by a country mile.

Even including the Fitzgerald enquiry. Grin
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Reply #4 - May 22nd, 2023 at 7:31am
 
freediver wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 7:25am:
What does this prove Lisa?



What part of overzealous policing have you missed in both instances?

And the fact the NSWPS were sued & paid out.

Is that not an admission of guilt & something they should have learned from?

Would you think they may have learnt anything from their blundering in the Lindt Cafe siege - from a young abled bodied man with a gun?
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What does it prove Gnads?
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Reply #6 - May 22nd, 2023 at 8:45am
 
Gnads wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 7:27am:
Lisa Jones wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 7:17am:
I really don’t know what else to say about our police force here in NSW.

Absolutely disgraceful! 😐


6 NSW police officers used 2 sets of handcuffs on a distressed 81-year-old dementia patient

Sun, 21 May 2023, 5:25 pm AEST·


https://au.news.yahoo.com/six-nsw-police-officers-used-072522960.html



When QLD Cops have done the same within the same short time frame as this incident & the Cooma one .....

I might agree with you.

But from where I sit - with underworld corruption infecting the NSW cop force over decades ....

I'd say they're winners by a country mile.

Even including the Fitzgerald enquiry. Grin


VicPol have always won the Gold Medal wrt underworld/corrupt infectious diseases. NSW Police only seem to come away with the Silver Medal.





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Reply #7 - May 22nd, 2023 at 8:50am
 
Hi Lisa,
there must be a way that training and testing
can sort the wheat from the chaff with the cops?

They need to simulate stressful situations and see how the trainees react.
They cops must make correct decisions under pressure
or they don't get to wear the badge or
perhaps they are only given a desk job as a clerk?
Some people can even have a high IQ but be hopeless under pressure.
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Reply #8 - May 22nd, 2023 at 8:50am
 
freediver wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 7:25am:
What does this prove Lisa?


Please refer to the title of this topic for your answer.


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Reply #9 - May 22nd, 2023 at 8:51am
 
NSW Cops: very good at keeping Rich people honest
                 - but the Poor 'Housos' exploit & are corrupt
VIC Cops: very good at keeping Poor (Bogans) people honest
                 - but the Rich exploit and are corrupt

SA Cops: break the Law and they'll sleep with your wife,
                    daughters, sisters, etc
QLD Cops:  break the Law and you'll have to pay $200 into
                    their personal pockets before you pass GO.

WA Cops: well they're just entirely corrupt whichever way
                    you look at it.
NT Cops:  well they'll just shoot you whichever way you
                    look at it.

....the worst Cops of all are the TASMANIAN COPS.
Break the Law and they'll make you marry into their 6-finger, 6-toe inbred families. Love conquers all.
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Reply #10 - May 22nd, 2023 at 9:25am
 
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 8:50am:
Hi Lisa,
there must be a way that training and testing
can sort the wheat from the chaff with the cops?

They need to simulate stressful situations and see how the trainees react.
The cops must make correct decisions under pressure
or they don't get to wear the badge or perhaps they are only given a desk job as a clerk?

Some people can even have a high IQ but be hopeless under pressure.


Every state police forcer needs to take note of these incidents because these will ultimately involve negative publicity and a lot of money 💰 to sort out (and I’m not just referring to the costs in conducting a thorough root cause analysis/cover up). Subsequent litigation expenses plus settlements easily mean millions of dollars will be incurred.

The underlying issues (as I see it) are as follows:

Effective and specific training in communicating and negotiating with elderly people ESP those locked in the scary and confusing world of dementia. Such training needs to be conducted ASAP and needs to involve employees within both police AND aged care facilities. Such training must also involve clear reporting guidelines and how to DE ESCALATE confrontations.

Revisiting health and safety protocols by sharing PRO ACTIVE principles so as to align how confrontations are dealt with will empower those who ultimately face situations where a dementia patient is armed for whatever reason.

I’m not professionally trained but even I know this much: You can’t reach an elderly person with dementia who is armed by screaming at them/ordering them. For starters people with dementia freeze and go into panic around loud noises. I’m tired of saying this but it helps to think of babies/toddlers. Do they handle loud noises and screaming? Of course NOT! They get distressed and break down crying not knowing WTF is going on and they need GENTLE reassurance. That means no screaming and no ordering. It HAS to be friendly and NOT loud AND you need to use simple sentences AND smile as friendly as possible because dementia patients READ faces (like babies/toddlers do).

Now the elderly women in these 2 cases involve:

1. A NSW elderly dementia patient armed with a lanyard.

2. An elderly lady in QLD who was holding a steak knife (and I bet it was around lunch or dinner time too).

There is no doubt in my mind that these 2 women honestly didn’t understand what was being ordered of them. And why. Elderly people with dementia are locked in a world where items TODAY hold intrinsic value which belongs to a part of their previous lifestyle. So for example : holding a steak knife would be a normal every day thing for a woman because that’s part and parcel of cooking and that’s probably what the elderly QLD was remembering.  A lanyard may well have been a visual reminder of a Centrelink or Medicare card.

What these confused and frightened sick elderly women DON’T need is this : inept, untrained cops who turn up to exacerbate their fear and confusion by terrorising them.



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Reply #11 - May 22nd, 2023 at 10:38am
 
freediver wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 7:34am:
What does it prove Gnads?


You can't read?
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Reply #12 - May 22nd, 2023 at 10:40am
 
Jasin wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 8:51am:
NSW Cops: very good at keeping Rich people honest
                 - but the Poor 'Housos' exploit & are corrupt
VIC Cops: very good at keeping Poor (Bogans) people honest
                 - but the Rich exploit and are corrupt

SA Cops: break the Law and they'll sleep with your wife,
                    daughters, sisters, etc
QLD Cops:  break the Law and you'll have to pay $200 into
                    their personal pockets before you pass GO.

WA Cops: well they're just entirely corrupt whichever way
                    you look at it.
NT Cops:  well they'll just shoot you whichever way you
                    look at it.

....the worst Cops of all are the TASMANIAN COPS.
Break the Law and they'll make you marry into their 6-finger, 6-toe inbred families. Love conquers all.
  Wink


What gives you such seriously biased & blanketed view against all Police?

Do you have form in every state?
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Reply #13 - May 22nd, 2023 at 11:12am
 
Gnads wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 10:40am:
Jasin wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 8:51am:
NSW Cops: very good at keeping Rich people honest
                 - but the Poor 'Housos' exploit & are corrupt
VIC Cops: very good at keeping Poor (Bogans) people honest
                 - but the Rich exploit and are corrupt

SA Cops: break the Law and they'll sleep with your wife,
                    daughters, sisters, etc
QLD Cops:  break the Law and you'll have to pay $200 into
                    their personal pockets before you pass GO.

WA Cops: well they're just entirely corrupt whichever way
                    you look at it.
NT Cops:  well they'll just shoot you whichever way you
                    look at it.

....the worst Cops of all are the TASMANIAN COPS.
Break the Law and they'll make you marry into their 6-finger, 6-toe inbred families. Love conquers all.
  Wink


What gives you such seriously biased & blanketed view against all Police?

Do you have form in every state?


OMG I thought it was hilarious!  Grin Grin Smiley
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Reply #14 - May 22nd, 2023 at 11:20am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 8:45am:
Gnads wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 7:27am:
Lisa Jones wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 7:17am:
I really don’t know what else to say about our police force here in NSW.

Absolutely disgraceful! 😐


6 NSW police officers used 2 sets of handcuffs on a distressed 81-year-old dementia patient

Sun, 21 May 2023, 5:25 pm AEST·


https://au.news.yahoo.com/six-nsw-police-officers-used-072522960.html



When QLD Cops have done the same within the same short time frame as this incident & the Cooma one .....

I might agree with you.

But from where I sit - with underworld corruption infecting the NSW cop force over decades ....

I'd say they're winners by a country mile.

Even including the Fitzgerald enquiry. Grin


VicPol have always won the Gold Medal wrt underworld/corrupt infectious diseases. NSW Police only seem to come away with the Silver Medal.




Dang right re: Vic
Underbelly and all that.
Weird Redback police.
Just who the f… are these? Where did they get imported from ?
Any wonder Vic takes the crown for being more in debt than the whole of NSW and Qld together  Angry
Yep, we’re leading the way in all shyster avenues.
$10 million per day accrued interest only on our debt here!
Not happy Jan.
I always thought NSW would lead… but no…HanDan has outdone ya’all….Qld is still too backwards to take corrupt lead!  Grin



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