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Karnal

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #375 - May 30^th, 2023 at 9:07pm

The more likely truth, Bobby, is those drones were steered by the FSB.

Yes, while you complain about FBI agents triggering Jan 6, the experts at false flag operations are Team Vlad. False flags, fake news, election interference, global hacks.

What do you think got Vlad erected to begin with?

Read on...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #376 - May 30^th, 2023 at 9:12pm

Karnal wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 6:44pm:

So unfair, Bobby. Ukraine has no right to do THAT. What do those mean old Ukrainians think they're doing blowing up Russian buildings like this? What do they think this is?

A war?

Someone should tell Zalensky to mind his manners, dear. Russia is engaged in a harmless security operation. Vlad's a peacemaker. Genius!

Oh, that's beautiful - Russia gets all that cheap real estate for a lousy $2 worth of sanctions. The big fella's right, as usual.

So unfair!

A war:

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-30-23/index....

2 hr 21 min ago

Alleged drone attack on Moscow is "a new reality
we will have to recognize," Putin ally says

A man is seen through a window of a damaged multi-storey apartment block following a reported drone attack in Moscow, Russia, on May 30. (Maxim Shemetov/Reuters)

From CNN's Clare Sebastian and Radina Gigova in London

A man is seen through a window of a damaged multi-storey apartment block following a reported drone attack in Moscow, Russia, on May 30.

The alleged drone attack on Moscow is "a new reality we will have to recognize," said Alexander Kinshtein, a member of the Russian Parliament from President Vladimir Putin's United Russia party.

"Undoubtedly, sabotage and terrorist attacks by Ukraine will only grow. We need to drastically strengthen defense and security measures, especially in the area of countering drones," he said in a Telegram post Tuesday.

Kinshtein went on to say the fact that eight drones were allegedly shot down "should not comfort anyone."

"Do not underestimate the enemy!" he added.

Russia has blamed Ukraine for the alleged attack on Moscow early Tuesday. Kyiv is yet to comment on the incident.

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #377 - May 30^th, 2023 at 9:21pm

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expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.

Yes - Ukraine were supposed to lose the war completely in the first 5 days.

It didn't happen now around 17 months later Ukraine has been consistently taking ground back from the Russians pushing them out of areas they originally took control of. They are obviously losing real bad.

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #378 - May 30^th, 2023 at 10:48pm

Bobby. wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 9:12pm:

Karnal wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 6:44pm:

So unfair, Bobby. Ukraine has no right to do THAT. What do those mean old Ukrainians think they're doing blowing up Russian buildings like this? What do they think this is?

A war?

Someone should tell Zalensky to mind his manners, dear. Russia is engaged in a harmless security operation. Vlad's a peacemaker. Genius!

Oh, that's beautiful - Russia gets all that cheap real estate for a lousy $2 worth of sanctions. The big fella's right, as usual.

So unfair!

A war:

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-30-23/index....

2 hr 21 min ago

Alleged drone attack on Moscow is "a new reality
we will have to recognize," Putin ally says

[url]https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/5d3b3f4c-0f7a-4e
5d-83e4-6838145c768a.jpeg[/url]

A man is seen through a window of a damaged multi-storey apartment block following a reported drone attack in Moscow, Russia, on May 30. (Maxim Shemetov/Reuters)

From CNN's Clare Sebastian and Radina Gigova in London

A man is seen through a window of a damaged multi-storey apartment block following a reported drone attack in Moscow, Russia, on May 30.

The alleged drone attack on Moscow is "a new reality we will have to recognize," said Alexander Kinshtein, a member of the Russian Parliament from President Vladimir Putin's United Russia party.

"Undoubtedly, sabotage and terrorist attacks by Ukraine will only grow. We need to drastically strengthen defense and security measures, especially in the area of countering drones," he said in a Telegram post Tuesday.

Kinshtein went on to say the fact that eight drones were allegedly shot down "should not comfort anyone."

"Do not underestimate the enemy!" he added.

Russia has blamed Ukraine for the alleged attack on Moscow early Tuesday. Kyiv is yet to comment on the incident.

Excuse me, are you disagreeing with Dear Leader? He said it's a peacekeeping mission.

He knows Vlad well. Very very well.

You?

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #379 - May 30^th, 2023 at 10:59pm

Dnarever wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 9:21pm:

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expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.

Yes - Ukraine were supposed to lose the war completely in the first 5 days.

It didn't happen now around 17 months later Ukraine has been consistently taking ground back from the Russians pushing them out of areas they originally took control of. They are obviously losing real bad.

I don't think Russia is losing, its just not winning very well. If a significant chunk of territory east of the Dnipro River is liberated, then I would consider Russia to be sort of losing.

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Reply #380 - May 30^th, 2023 at 11:02pm

Dnarever wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 9:21pm:

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expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.

Yes - Ukraine were supposed to lose the war completely in the first 5 days.

It didn't happen now around 17 months later Ukraine has been consistently taking ground back from the Russians pushing them out of areas they originally took control of. They are obviously losing real bad.

It's all part of Vlad's plan, Dnerever. Right now, Russian troops are surrounding Kiev in a cunning pincer move, ready to decapitate the Ukrainian leadership and seize hold of the country.

Okay, would you believe...

https://youtu.be/bA-UPrK_x-k

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Reply #381 - May 30^th, 2023 at 11:05pm

issuevoter wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 10:59pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 9:21pm:

Quote:

expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.

Yes - Ukraine were supposed to lose the war completely in the first 5 days.

It didn't happen now around 17 months later Ukraine has been consistently taking ground back from the Russians pushing them out of areas they originally took control of. They are obviously losing real bad.

I don't think Russia is losing, its just not winning very well. If a significant chunk of territory east of the Dnipro River is liberated, then I would consider Russia to be sort of losing.

Oh yes, I remember now. Missed it by that much...

https://youtu.be/g2vZonSDUgk

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #382 - May 30^th, 2023 at 11:13pm

issuevoter wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 10:59pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 9:21pm:

Quote:

expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.

Yes - Ukraine were supposed to lose the war completely in the first 5 days.

It didn't happen now around 17 months later Ukraine has been consistently taking ground back from the Russians pushing them out of areas they originally took control of. They are obviously losing real bad.

I don't think Russia is losing, its just not winning very well. If a significant chunk of territory east of the Dnipro River is liberated, then I would consider Russia to be sort of losing.

Didn't say Russia is losing, they just aren't winning either.

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #383 - May 30^th, 2023 at 11:17pm

Bobby. wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 9:12pm:

[quote author=Karnal link=1684398818/374#374 date=1685436251]

So unfair, Bobby. Ukraine has no right to do THAT. What do those mean old Ukrainians think they're doing blowing up Russian buildings like this? What do they think this is?

A war?

Craw.

https://youtu.be/ftgAG3Vnif8

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #384 - May 30^th, 2023 at 11:23pm

Bobby. wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 9:12pm:

Karnal wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 6:44pm:

So unfair, Bobby. Ukraine has no right to do THAT. What do those mean old Ukrainians think they're doing blowing up Russian buildings like this? What do they think this is?

A war?

Someone should tell Zalensky to mind his manners, dear. Russia is engaged in a harmless security operation. Vlad's a peacemaker. Genius!

Oh, that's beautiful - Russia gets all that cheap real estate for a lousy $2 worth of sanctions. The big fella's right, as usual.

So unfair!

A war:

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-30-23/index....

2 hr 21 min ago

Alleged drone attack on Moscow is "a new reality
we will have to recognize," Putin ally says

[url]https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/5d3b3f4c-0f7a-4e
5d-83e4-6838145c768a.jpeg[/url]

A man is seen through a window of a damaged multi-storey apartment block following a reported drone attack in Moscow, Russia, on May 30. (Maxim Shemetov/Reuters)

From CNN's Clare Sebastian and Radina Gigova in London

A man is seen through a window of a damaged multi-storey apartment block following a reported drone attack in Moscow, Russia, on May 30.

The alleged drone attack on Moscow is "a new reality we will have to recognize," said Alexander Kinshtein, a member of the Russian Parliament from President Vladimir Putin's United Russia party.

"Undoubtedly, sabotage and terrorist attacks by Ukraine will only grow. We need to drastically strengthen defense and security measures, especially in the area of countering drones," he said in a Telegram post Tuesday.

Kinshtein went on to say the fact that eight drones were allegedly shot down "should not comfort anyone."

"Do not underestimate the enemy!" he added.

Russia has blamed Ukraine for the alleged attack on Moscow early Tuesday. Kyiv is yet to comment on the incident.

pretty underwhelming sh1t. this is their revenge attack they were hyping up?

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Reply #385 - May 30^th, 2023 at 11:30pm

Karnal wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 6:31pm:

JC Denton wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 3:18pm:

Karnal wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 2:57pm:

JC Denton wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 2:09pm:

there is little chance of nuclear war, no one is starting nuclear armageddon because of this conflict, nor is NATO going to directly intervene, they don't care that much. this is all theatre just like covid was, ignore it and go about your day.

I don't think Ukrainians can afford to do that, JS. Do you think Vlad should try to stop blowing them up?

I'm curious.

i don't know what that has to do with my statement

but i would be running as far as possible from the SBU thugs as a young ukrainian man if they came to 'recruit' me like i've seen in videos on twitter many times before

like this guy

https://twitter.com/ReggieMeezer/status/1622662877730545681

https://twitter.com/NixinWolf/status/1646893540708962305

https://twitter.com/MeridionaliAura/status/1654225714026266624

there's just no shortage of these and they're great

I see. Let's ask an easier question then. If you were Ukrainian, would you want to integrate your country/bomb site with the EU or Russia Russia Russia?

I'm curious.

how about just

neutral

and therein lies where this conflict started and what led in part to the turmoil - gallicians in the west dreaming of their glitzy european future at odds with russians in the east

don't try to fool me on this one the whole thing was a clusterfk and amerikkka and the boomer neocon cheerleaders who were sticking themselves in this were no angels throughout

just like how these spooks ruined iraq, libya, and attemptedly syria, which fortunately was thwarted by the ass man

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #386 - May 30^th, 2023 at 11:48pm

Dnarever wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 11:13pm:

issuevoter wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 10:59pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 9:21pm:

Quote:

expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.

Yes - Ukraine were supposed to lose the war completely in the first 5 days.

It didn't happen now around 17 months later Ukraine has been consistently taking ground back from the Russians pushing them out of areas they originally took control of. They are obviously losing real bad.

I don't think Russia is losing, its just not winning very well. If a significant chunk of territory east of the Dnipro River is liberated, then I would consider Russia to be sort of losing.

Didn't say Russia is losing, they just aren't winning either.

I asked you not to tell me that.

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Reply #387 - May 31^st, 2023 at 12:08am

JC Denton wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 11:30pm:

Karnal wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 6:31pm:

JC Denton wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 3:18pm:

Karnal wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 2:57pm:

JC Denton wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 2:09pm:

there is little chance of nuclear war, no one is starting nuclear armageddon because of this conflict, nor is NATO going to directly intervene, they don't care that much. this is all theatre just like covid was, ignore it and go about your day.

I don't think Ukrainians can afford to do that, JS. Do you think Vlad should try to stop blowing them up?

I'm curious.

i don't know what that has to do with my statement

but i would be running as far as possible from the SBU thugs as a young ukrainian man if they came to 'recruit' me like i've seen in videos on twitter many times before

like this guy

https://twitter.com/ReggieMeezer/status/1622662877730545681

https://twitter.com/NixinWolf/status/1646893540708962305

https://twitter.com/MeridionaliAura/status/1654225714026266624

there's just no shortage of these and they're great

I see. Let's ask an easier question then. If you were Ukrainian, would you want to integrate your country/bomb site with the EU or Russia Russia Russia?

I'm curious.

how about just

neutral

and therein lies where this conflict started and what led in part to the turmoil - gallicians in the west dreaming of their glitzy european future at odds with russians in the east

don't try to fool me on this one the whole thing was a clusterfk and amerikkka and the boomer neocon cheerleaders who were sticking themselves in this were no angels throughout

just like how these spooks ruined iraq, libya, and attemptedly syria, which fortunately was thwarted by the ass man

Just - neutral. Most broad-minded of you, dear. Do you know what you are?

You're a centrist. Yes, not for you these silly old culture wars. You're a multiculturalist. Rich byzantine tapestry, innit. A jolly old melting pot.

Most brave of you, JC. Ever get the feeling you've been hacked?

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Reply #388 - May 31^st, 2023 at 12:19am

JC Denton wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 11:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 9:12pm:

Karnal wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 6:44pm:

So unfair, Bobby. Ukraine has no right to do THAT. What do those mean old Ukrainians think they're doing blowing up Russian buildings like this? What do they think this is?

A war?

Someone should tell Zalensky to mind his manners, dear. Russia is engaged in a harmless security operation. Vlad's a peacemaker. Genius!

Oh, that's beautiful - Russia gets all that cheap real estate for a lousy $2 worth of sanctions. The big fella's right, as usual.

So unfair!

A war:

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-30-23/index....

2 hr 21 min ago

Alleged drone attack on Moscow is "a new reality
we will have to recognize," Putin ally says

[url]https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/5d3b3f4c-0f7a-4e
5d-83e4-6838145c768a.jpeg[/url]

A man is seen through a window of a damaged multi-storey apartment block following a reported drone attack in Moscow, Russia, on May 30. (Maxim Shemetov/Reuters)

From CNN's Clare Sebastian and Radina Gigova in London

A man is seen through a window of a damaged multi-storey apartment block following a reported drone attack in Moscow, Russia, on May 30.

The alleged drone attack on Moscow is "a new reality we will have to recognize," said Alexander Kinshtein, a member of the Russian Parliament from President Vladimir Putin's United Russia party.

"Undoubtedly, sabotage and terrorist attacks by Ukraine will only grow. We need to drastically strengthen defense and security measures, especially in the area of countering drones," he said in a Telegram post Tuesday.

Kinshtein went on to say the fact that eight drones were allegedly shot down "should not comfort anyone."

"Do not underestimate the enemy!" he added.

Russia has blamed Ukraine for the alleged attack on Moscow early Tuesday. Kyiv is yet to comment on the incident.

pretty underwhelming sh1t. this is their revenge attack they were hyping up?

No, this is Vlad telling his Russian audience I told you so on Russia Today.

It's how he convinces the parents of kids coming home in zinc coffins that it's all worth it in the end, you see.

It's straight out of the Putin playbook. Before long, they'll be finding time bombs in Moscow apartment blocks, just like 1999.

And that's okay. You're neutral. It doesn't matter whether Vlad blows up Ukrainians or Russians, it's all good, no?

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #389 - May 31^st, 2023 at 6:02am

Karnal wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 12:19am:

JC Denton wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 11:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 9:12pm:

Karnal wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 6:44pm:

So unfair, Bobby. Ukraine has no right to do THAT. What do those mean old Ukrainians think they're doing blowing up Russian buildings like this? What do they think this is?

A war?

Someone should tell Zalensky to mind his manners, dear. Russia is engaged in a harmless security operation. Vlad's a peacemaker. Genius!

Oh, that's beautiful - Russia gets all that cheap real estate for a lousy $2 worth of sanctions. The big fella's right, as usual.

So unfair!

A war:

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-30-23/index....

2 hr 21 min ago

Alleged drone attack on Moscow is "a new reality
we will have to recognize," Putin ally says

[url]https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/5d3b3f4c-0f7a-4e
5d-83e4-6838145c768a.jpeg[/url]

A man is seen through a window of a damaged multi-storey apartment block following a reported drone attack in Moscow, Russia, on May 30. (Maxim Shemetov/Reuters)

From CNN's Clare Sebastian and Radina Gigova in London

A man is seen through a window of a damaged multi-storey apartment block following a reported drone attack in Moscow, Russia, on May 30.

The alleged drone attack on Moscow is "a new reality we will have to recognize," said Alexander Kinshtein, a member of the Russian Parliament from President Vladimir Putin's United Russia party.

"Undoubtedly, sabotage and terrorist attacks by Ukraine will only grow. We need to drastically strengthen defense and security measures, especially in the area of countering drones," he said in a Telegram post Tuesday.

Kinshtein went on to say the fact that eight drones were allegedly shot down "should not comfort anyone."

"Do not underestimate the enemy!" he added.

Russia has blamed Ukraine for the alleged attack on Moscow early Tuesday. Kyiv is yet to comment on the incident.

pretty underwhelming sh1t. this is their revenge attack they were hyping up?

No, this is Vlad telling his Russian audience I told you so on Russia Today.

It's how he convinces the parents of kids coming home in zinc coffins that it's all worth it in the end, you see.

It's straight out of the Putin playbook. Before long, they'll be finding time bombs in Moscow apartment blocks, just like 1999.

And that's okay. You're neutral. It doesn't matter whether Vlad blows up Ukrainians or Russians, it's all good, no?

Convincing parents when their children come home in zinc coffins?

Sounds like LBJ in Vietnam
George Bush senior in Iraq
George Bush Jr and Iraq
Bill Clinton in Somalia
Hillary Clinton in Benghazi
Barack Obama in Afghanistan

Ever get the feeling you're a hypocrite

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